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Comment on Rapture finally happened! (2008-11-21 12:23:34)
@SumoSnipe: Fuck yeah! Count me in! Ragnarök's going to be a WAY better party than the apocalypse!
Comment on Cat Council (2008-11-21 11:18:38)
"We know all your secrets..."
Comment on Rapture finally happened! (2008-11-21 10:39:00)
@dieAntagonista: Far as I can tell the Christian rapture isn't even scriptural. Unless you count the gospel according to Tim LaHaye, which some in my family seem to. The Rapture seems to be largely a US Evangelical concept. @hvymetal86: Grab a fork buddy, there are A LOT of animals I haven't eaten!
Comment on Religion - I'm Scared Of Death (2008-11-21 02:13:34)
Yay! Everyone's friends again! Feels like the end of a sitcom in here. Everything's wrapped up nice and neat. I'm really impressed with everyone. I've never seen this happen in a comment thread. Now we can all go back to arguing about boob size and trigger discipline. Good ol' m[c]s. :)
Comment on No Gods, No Master, Against All Authority - Anarchism (2008-11-20 22:21:29)
Looked better on a banner in Rapture.
Comment on Religion - I'm Scared Of Death (2008-11-20 22:13:34)
@ieattime20: Giving an argument credence based on who said it is an appeal to authority fallacy. Ad hominem is appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument.
Comment on Christian World Conquest (2008-11-20 22:00:52)
@RP: Will it take off? @Smuggan: Christianism? I'm a Christianist. I believe in the existence of Christians. Sorry, just poking fun. But yeah, I think that's true. But it will probably come back. Religiosity, or at least religious adherence, seems to have a pendulum effect. And the dumb-ass loud angry fledgling parrot atheists are certainly up to doing their part to push it back in the other direction, sadly. ...I'm not having a great day, I should try not to take it out on the internets.
Comment on Christian World Conquest (2008-11-20 21:42:22)
@Twee: That sounds wonderful. The best I remember my church teaching us kids was how to tell our non Christian friends about our buddy Jesus without being influenced or corrupted when they told us about their beliefs. Some pretty sleazy seeming stuff. We were basically being trained as recruiters on top of the rest of the indoctrination. Despite my experiences I know better than to think all Christians are as such. But I certainly take issue with that sort of system, indoctrination, the idea of faith as a virtue, and dogma as a whole. ...not that you made any point to the contrary, just ranting.
Comment on Christian World Conquest (2008-11-20 20:22:36)
@JamesTuskGeorge: Comparative religion classes would be awesome. As long as it stays out of the science class I'm all for it. But America is too Politically Correct and hung up on equality to a fault and I think that's one of the things at the root of this. But far more important would be a much stronger emphasis on logic and critical thinking in our schools. At present there is almost none. Thank you for an interesting and civil discussion.
Comment on Christian World Conquest (2008-11-20 19:46:35)
...wouldn’t happen *in* countries with an official faith, rather.
Comment on Christian World Conquest (2008-11-20 19:43:40)
@JamesTuskGeorge: It's been a while so I'm a bit too rusty for name dropping off the top of my head but I remember reading plenty of prominent apologists and theologians who certainly didn't agree with each other. Granted they agreed on some major thematic points, otherwise they wouldn't have been so prominent. So I'm not sure I agree that there's a consensus, and less convinced that if there were it would be authoritative. And even if THAT were true, I stand by my point that one could back up and stance with scripture and feel justified. It's not only in the US I assure you but we certainly have been going nuts with new flavors haven't we? Dominionism, Creationism, Mormonism, Southern Baptist...ism. Voodoo is one of ours too. All the same, I think it's mostly seems like the US is so rampant because of all the noisy struggles recently between our religious right and our secular Constitution. Something that wouldn't happen countries with an official faith. Jesus only "letting" people die feels like it could easily spiral into worthless semantics so I'm going to give that one some thought and come back to it. But even if I accept that, which I don't, there's no shortage of examples of God dealing out some vicious hands-on death. But that's off topic. As for most people refusing to learn about their own faith, that has certainly been my experience. Be it learning about the details and history of their creed or even looking inward and examining their own beliefs very closely. But when it comes to drawing a distinction between the two, i don't know, that sounds like a semantic issue as well. If you feel the need go for it, but it's not of much interest to me to debate it. For the sake of argument I'm willing to work with whatever definitions people want.
Comment on Religion - I'm Scared Of Death (2008-11-20 18:48:50)
I see the comic reenacted on either side. For every Christian touting that science doesn't mean anything and championing that no one can prove them wrong I see just as many atheists hurling attacks at people who don't care to prove a thing, don't want to convince anyone of anything but still happen to hold different set of personal beliefs, many of whom aren't even Christian, let alone the lazy-eyed bible thumping wastes of flesh who deserve the backlash. People on all sides are so threatened be each other that it's really rare to be able to cut the bullshit and actually debate ideas, which is what I think most of us would prefer if we could only get the fuck over ourselves.
Comment on Christian World Conquest (2008-11-20 18:12:01)
@Twee: Yeah, I took a look at them back when I was shopping my soul around for a new faith. LeVay had, er, plagiarized a few good ideas but man, he is a TERRIBLE singer! As a stroke of genius, I think he made an album to prove there could not possibly be a god.
Comment on Christian World Conquest (2008-11-20 18:06:00)
@thelotuseater725: Fuckin'A Lotus! You give those little kraut bastards what for!
Comment on Christian World Conquest (2008-11-20 16:51:10)
@Twee: Haven't you ever seen a cartoon man? You sell Him your soul for whatever you most desire, and then you get a humorously ironic punishment in hell. I guess Sananists are trying to butter Him up because they want to renege on the deal. Seriously though, most "Satanists" are atheists shacked up with LaVey's little social statement because they're either angry ex-Christians with no imagination or Randian Objectivists who happen to love Halloween. And as far as I can tell the minority of actual theistic Satanists (technically a Christian denomination, amusingly enough) can all be found within the Norwegian black metal scene. Which is a shame because it's a waste of the perfectly metal themes of the native Norse mythology. Oh well, it's not like you could make out the lyrics anyway.