white people can experience racism too



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    quietschfidel

    *yawn*

    Soong

    If you 1-stared this, please explain how white people cannot experience racism and explain how you’ve never lived in or even visited a black neighborhood, let alone traveled to another continent.
    To take it a little further, if you believe white people cannot experience racism, I would suggest that this idea grows from the very white privilege that you’re always complaining about. You’ve never been poor enough to live and work in a shit hole.

    Last edited 2 years ago by Soong
    Saborlas

    I explained the difference between racial discrimination and racism elsewhere in these comments.

    tiki god

    you mean you redefined a commonly understood concept to be shoehorned into whatever you wanted it to be.

    quietschfidel

    It’s not about whether racism against white is possible or not. The point is the insignificance of this against the overwhelming systemic racism against PoC in the U.S. Sure there can be prejudices against white. But that is just not the point. It’s right wing winery.

    Soong

    Right. It’s not a problem for everyone to worry about. In fact, the numbers of victims of black on white crime are so small, they should just consider it winning the unlucky-lottery and take their losses. In 2018, 16% of white victims were killed by Black offenders, while 8% of Black victims were killed by white offenders. How does a smaller population (12% in America) get numbers as twice as high as a population six times larger (73%) ? By working harder (at violent crime).

    Saborlas

    Incorrect. Racism requires a societal system set up to discriminate based on race. White people can face racial discrimination, yes. But no one set up a system in America intended to keep white people down. Ever wonder why black neighborhoods have bad schools? Schools are funded by property taxes. This keeps black kids from getting a good education, ensuring they can’t go to college. So either they sign up for the military to get college money, or they turn to crime as there aren’t enough no-degree-required jobs to go around (thus becoming prison slaves as per that little loophole in the 13th Amendment).

    Man, some people are just DESPERATE to join the Oppression Olympics.

    Last edited 2 years ago by Saborlas
    Soong

    More like shit people raise shit kids.That’s the systemic problem. Poor white neighborhoods have shit schools too, but they generally have far less violent crime. Explain it. Please point to the poor white (or hispanic, or asian [lol]) equivalent of Richmond, Ca or Compton, where the streets are rife with gun violence and gang rapes happen in high schools. Because if it’s poorness that causes the problems, it should cause the same problems/behaviors for everyone; unless poverty is racist in how it forces people to behave?

    You string this cause to that effect, dot to dot, like some loony with red string on a cork boar. Reality is simpler.

    Your argument is grossly disingenuous, having to customize your definition of racism.

    Last edited 2 years ago by Soong
    Gropegrope

    Explain it…?
    Cops are mostly white….in both poor black or poor white regions.

    I don’t think there is a real significant difference in crime….more like in enforcement…and therefore statistics.

    Last edited 2 years ago by Gropegrope
    Soong

    I love this argument. It implies that whites are tolerating crime in their neighborhoods, or cops are tolerating crime in white neighborhoods, or the judicial system doesn’t prosecute white offenders; and the rest of the white people are okay with it. Does that sound right to you? White neighbors looking the other way and being okay with their victimization because the perpetrator was white? Then it would be whites who don’t call the cops because the cops don’t take care of crime and blacks would love the cops because the cops would take away all the criminals! But it’s not like that and your argument is laughable.

    Soong

    Let me address the flip side, lest anyone embarrass themselves trying to. The alternative being that everyone is as sweet and wholesome as everyone else, and white cops are busting blacks kids to power trip. The crimes are imagined. Any victims of gun violence are … actors? actually all killed by cops who framed PoC? Forensics, video, and eye witnesses all synthesized. Or no, PoC serve as whipping boys and all crimes are done by whites. Nailed it.

    Last edited 2 years ago by Soong
    Gropegrope

    Why not say what you really mean then….

    Soong

    It disgusts me to see the left gaslighting itself into blaming one portion of the population for the violent acts of another.

    Gropegrope

    No, seriously.
    Say what you really mean.
    Spell it out for us lefties….

    Last edited 2 years ago by Gropegrope
    Soong

    I just did. Nothing short of direct coercion (do bad or I will harm you/your loved one/a total stranger) is a plausible justification for shifting blame to a third party; yet everyone here is eager to proffer up spun-sugar lattices to shift the weight of blame from those committing crimes to those that are not. It’s not just interracial crime, it is heresy to mention the astronomical rate of violent black on black crime. But I bet you’ve been conditioned to believe it is also the fault of whites that blacks hurt blacks.

    You want me to say it’s genetics or some dirt dumb shit like that. I don’t know that it is. Based on my life experience, living and going to school with bus loads of kids from the deep dark ghetto, and going to school in one of the most affluent parts of California where the demographics were inverted; In that area, the black kids were behaviorally indistinguishable from us mayo kids. Whereas in Jr. High I was jumped and beaten multiple times by groups of blacks apparently for fun. For me, that points to it being cultural/environmental.

    Culturally, whites are already on babysitting duty to make sure other whites don’t offend blacks. Race isn’t reported in black on white crimes but it is mentioned in reporting of white on black crimes. We don’t talk about black on black violence. If we’re selling burglar alarms, the actor in the commercial is always white. A part of left-white culture is now pretending they are, as a whole, culpable for the failures of another group. That will never lead to an improvement. I don’t know what a non-horrific solution is. Eugenics is off the table, as is the whole white families raising brown babies; fuck what can be suggested that doesn’t sound monumentally racist and inhuman? IDK. Nobody does. So some blame whites for black crime just like others blame god for natural disasters.

    Last edited 2 years ago by Soong
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