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Yoga can leave you injured psychotic and a Hindu Christian groups claim

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Alabama lawmaker’s bid to overturn a 28-year yoga ban in public schools faces backlash from conservative Christian groups

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    Bolthorn

    Alabama is ranked 46th in education so having a bunch of people believe this drivel isn’t surprising.

    Alternate snarky take;
    “Christianity can leave you psychotic and a raging hate-filled bigot.”

    Also, please note the keyword “can”. I’m mostly being a snarky asshole here and I certainly do not think all Christians are hate-filled bigots. The ones that pull this kind of shit most likely fall into at least the “bigot” category.

    And a third take for fun.
    Makes sense, these people believe that just going to church makes them a Christian so of course they think doing yoga makes you Hindu.

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    Old Tofu

    I hear yoga can help a lot of ways . . . but it can’t fix stupid

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    Sindig0

    Though I think his reasons for keeping Yoga out of public schools are beyond stupid I think there is a good argument to be made for not allowing it on church/state separation grounds. Yoga – as it is taught by almost everyone is underpinned by pseudo-religious bullshit.

    It is damn near impossible to find a class or teacher who doesn’t teach at least some of the religious stuff that goes with the postures. Whether it’s specific Hindu belief or much more likely, general, hand-waving, hippy-dippy bullshit. Either way, without someone there (i.e. me) to explain the context of the teachings, I wouldn’t want my kids doing it in school unless it was ‘just’ stretching and 100% secular meditation.

    I’ve done Yoga for about 20 years in one form or another and I do Yoga with my kids. I really dig the stretches – there’s nothing quite like them that I’ve ever found and they’ve really helped with increasing my flexibility for Kung Fu (which, obviously has its own problems in this regard, don’t get me started). I also quite like the meditation aspect – though I tend to fall asleep.

    Magical thinking has no place being taught in schools.

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    Bolthorn

    I agree with you there on the “if it’s just stretching and 100% secular meditation” part. But I think you’re giving the group that’s protesting too much credit here.

    Look at just this page from their website
    alabamaeagle.org/our-values/
    These are definitely the same type of people that push for Christian prayer in schools.

    Different group from the article, The National Center for Law & Policy, says that yoga cannot be divorced from Hinduism. Although, looking at some of the other stuff they believe, I doubt their sincerity there too. They’ve got this in there About us page “The National Center for Law & Policy (NCLP) is a non-profit 501(c)(3) legal defense organization which focuses on the protection and promotion of religious freedom, the sanctity of life, traditional marriage, parental rights, and other civil liberties. The National Center for Law and Policy engages in constitutional litigation in state and federal courts. The National Center is also active in the areas of public policy and education.” So yeah, I’m not buying the shit they’re shoveling either. They’re also cool with all these things (again, lifted directly from their website):
    RIGHTS OF STUDENTS• Freedom of Belief/Rights of Religious Conscience
    • Prayers and Moments of Silence
    • On-Campus Bible Clubs
    • Witnessing on Campus
    • Event Invitation Flyers
    • See You at the Pole
    • Class Assignments & Religious Viewpoints
    • Day of Truth
    • Release Time Programs
    • Graduation Speeches and Prayers
    • Baccalaureate Programs
    • Opting Out of Objectionable Programs
    • Acknowledgment of Religious Holidays
    • Confidential Medical Release
    • Talent Show Participation

    …but they have a problem with yoga? Fuck them.

    I don’t doubt you may be sincerely questioning the religious aspect being a part of yoga, the people fighting to keep it banned in Alabama schools are definitely not coming from the same place of genuine concern. A group that calls for prayer in school on one hand but refusing to allow yoga in another is some hypocritical bullshit.

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    Sindig0

    Oh, no sorry. No way I’m giving them any credit at all – they’re a bunch of bigoted, anti-intellectual, hypocritical fuck-nuts. I don’t want to give them any credit whatsoever. I apologise if it came across that way.

    In fact, one of the most galling aspects of all this to me is the fact that I have to agree with them – in that I don’t think Yoga should be taught in schools, I just have very different reasons – I don’t think anything remotely religious *at all* should be taught in schools. At least not as truth. I’ll give a pass to comparative religious studies of some sort.

    The hypocrisy is what stings the most – as you quite rightly say. I’d agree with them 100% if they said “What – our kids can’t pray before football practice but it’s okay if they’re standing on their head listening to pan pipes?”. My agreeing with their point, doesn’t make me agree with their reasons though. Stopped clock, etc.

    Thanks for the info, too. 🙂

    Last edited 3 years ago by Sindig0
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    Bolthorn

    Yep, pretty sure we’re on a similar page. Probably at least in the same chapter of the book at least.

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    Sindig0

    Absolutely – I guess I’m just a little sensitive to the defence of Yoga you often hear when this debate comes up – that it’s ‘just stretching’. It’s not. In fact, Yoga, I think could be taught in a Religious Studies class.

    Last year, they said they might lift the ban but remove everything spiritual:

    www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/08/alabama-yoga-ban-public-schools-prohibit-namaste

    But if you think kids could benefit from the practice – and I agree with you, why bother with Yoga just teach them Pilates.

    Of course, Alabama’s dipshit Christians would probably find a way to disagree with that too.

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