These are not the only kind of women who wear them. Come to any small village in Europe, like Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria or Russia. You’ll find plenty of women who are wearing it. It’s very traditional.

But we make laws only against Muslim women. Because they’re dirty. And Muslims.

Fucking sandn!ggers (I’m not censoring myself, it won’t approve the comment otherwise) need to go back where they came from.

Penguin nuns are cool though. They’re not insulting. They can stay.

@...natedog: This is why you’re my hero.

@...vygramul:

In some states/ areas Muslim women are forced to take their head thing off at work.

@...Blondie:

Did you know that America has the highest rape rate in the world? Does that mean that Americans are born rapers? No. It means that people are affected by their environment, no matter how open-minded, nationality or religion, and may or may not become criminals.

If you hear on the news, that some sick guy in some Arabic country killed his daughter because she talked to a man, you feel like, oh, so that’s how those Arabs deal with things. All of them must be like that. But let me ask you, if you compare all those incidents with the ones from other countries, are there more Muslim crime incidents or is it the other way.

It does not matter in fact. Even if there were more Muslim crime incidents, people act the way they have been taught to. The majority has been born into that religion. You on the other hand, are comparing these people to a race? Black people. Really?

I’ve said it quite a lot, but biology and evolutionary genetics are against you.

There is no such thing as a crime gene. People will treat others the way they have been taught to. By their parents, environment and teachers. Or lack thereof.

Anything else is bigotry.

And by rapers I mean rapists. Erk. Too much. Caffeine. Flowing through my veins.

@...Sticky:

Flattery will get you nowhere. Except maybe Jessica Simpson’s pants. (They killed her ego for sure)

Wait, am I doing it right.

@...Blondie:

Ok then please tell me, what’s the difference between a man who thinks he has the right to rape a woman because of his belief in god, and a man who thinks he has the right to rape a woman simply because he has the power to do so.

Here’s the problem with your conclusions about those Muslim friends of yours.
Islam doesn’t teach anything like that. We could discuss this all day long, you could bring up verses from the Koran and whatnot. But in the end, the majority of Muslims agree that this is not what their religion teaches.
If we’re talking percentages here, then let’s do it properly.

You base your opinions on statistics, where are those Muslim crime statistics you speak of? They do not exist.

And yeah, the Muslims you know may not be real Muslims. Have you considered that? Or do you just pick and choose the people you can use as a bad example as you see fit.

I don’t know any Muslims, granted. But the Muslims my father told me about, and the ones I heard of from my aunts who would tell me only the truth, say it’s not at all how people in the West think it is.
Also, it was only after 9/11 that people even knew what a Muslim is. All of the sudden everyone recognised so many extremists all over the place.

Also, I’m not arguing with you about whether or not religion treats women like shit. It’s about the fact that bad people become criminals based on what is available. Some use religion as an excuse, others use depression or alcohol.

Also, I would like to state that AlecDalec is butthurt because I, who doesn’t think all Muslims and black people should die, get more attention than him.

I miss Caio.

@...Blondie:

Again, where are those statistics you speak of? In the Arabic countries they might not report it the way they do it in the West, but in the West they supposedly do?
And even in that case, how do you know those are real Muslims?
Doesn’t it strike you as strange that those Muslims are mostly like that in your area.
Islam doesn’t teach any of that. I know most people don’t like to hear it, and say it’s not true but I think I know more than you when I say that the whole women should cover up thing is out of respect. Men are supposed to cover up too.
If the Muslims in your area are arrogant assholes and treat their women like shit, it’s because they want to. Not because their religion says so.

And why do you keep pointing out my gender? This is not about anyone’s gender. Haven’t you noticed how I make comments in favour of black people even though I’m not black?
That’s completely nonsensical. I just happen to know that Muslims are not the monsters people like to portray them as.

Yes, religion does get more respect than it should, but a crime is a crime. Whether it’s backed up by anyone or not.

And my aunt does not think bad of the West, why do you jump to conclusions like that.
See that shows that you pick and choose the people who support your argument.
I have two aunts who work for the UN, both always wanted to visit the US, but now it’s not possible anymore for obvious reasons. Pretty sad don’t you think?

@...RSIxidor: What are you talking about. I haven’t logged in for a while now. Everyone else has agreed on that so why would you think I’m invisible?

@...Blondie:

There you have it. “Drunk Muslims”. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A DRUNK MUSLIM. Jesus.
Look, those lowlifes pretend to be Muslims so that they have an excuse. You’d have to be oblivious to not see it.

I can tell you why I know what Islam teaches better than you. Because I have studied the Koran. Have you? You probably just heard a few verses out of context here and there and now you think you know what you’re talking about.

“Your aunt told you “it’s not at all how people in the West think it is.” That’s about the broadest generalization spoken of on here. So if she doesn’t think the West is bad but at the same time thinks we’re somehow misinformed does she has this wonky perception that we’re a bunch of smiling retards who just need to be shown the righteous path by those smart other cultures?”

YOU think that. It’s not at all what she said or thought. She said what she said based on Western TV and news. They make laws against Muslims. They ridicule Muslims. Even the ones who haven’t done anything.
She never said *all* people in the West believe that. All she said was that there is this misconception in the West. You really can’t say anything against that, since she lives in a country people in the West like to talk so much about.
How often have you been in a Muslim country? ‘Cause if you have ever been there, you would know that Muslim women are very well allowed to learn whatever they want. I think my aunts who are lawyers and work for the UN are the best example. Why do you keep ignoring that? How many exceptions do you need to admit that Muslims who are criminals are criminals because they choose to be that.

Look, I don’t think we’ll agree on anything here, but just know this. There are over 1 billion Muslims in this world. If they really were the monsters you think they are, this would be one huge rape fest. It would be an apocalypse. You’d hear about Muslim crimes on the news non stop. Therefore the picture you have painted for yourself, has to be at least somewhat off.

But even all of that doesn’t matter. All I want to know is one thing. When you see a man with a funny beard on the street, do you judge him before you know anything else about him?

@...CathyLong:

“But all these “anti-Muslim” laws you keep referring to I haven’t seen one.”

I have never referred to them in plural. And I have already mentioned what I’m talking about. In certain states/ areas they require Muslim women to take off their hijabs. Google it if you wish.
In Europe they have done the same. As well as not hiring Muslim women if they wear hijabs, which falls under discrimination.

@...Sticky:

Because the Jews are the reason for all the wars in the world. Didn’t you know?
Oh and WWII, yeah that was a big conspiracy by Zionists. They made the Nazis kill them so that now everyone feels sorry for them.
Or no wait, they made it look like the Nazis killed them, while really it was all just a lie. The phantom of the opera appeared, put 6 million Jews in his pocket and now he’s back hidden in some attic.
Pfft, how dare you question the hate against Jews.

@...CathyLong:

No. I have specifically stated what I meant. I haven’t said anything about any driver’s license. I know about the individual cases.
I wouldn’t talk about these things if I didn’t know exactly what I’m talking about, thank you very much.

Maybe you should go read up.

@...CathyLong:
I don’t know about the specific laws in the US, since it’s from state to state different, I can’t keep up with that. I saw it on TV though. I don’t know what kind of news you get or don’t get in the US, but if they passed a law in a state or two, it can’t be such a big secret.

Through what other way could they require women to put down their hijab for jobs where it’s not necessary? They had to pass a law of some sort. I’m well aware how the law system works in my country, the US can’t be that different.

Also, to give you some perspective. In my country you can drink alcohol in public, walk around topless at the beach and marry another person of the same sex. What would they do with people who do that in the US? Put them in jail right. To us that seems strange and strict. Yet Europeans still just obey when they visit the States. And don’t freak out and claim they’re close-minded.

So yeah, there are apparently no laws against the hijab in America. I apologise again.
But there were plenty of incidents at schools and work places.
In France, Germany and Austria they already have laws against it. Here’s the kicker, I bet none of you cares! Nobody cares when people infringe on other people’s basic rights, if they don’t agree with them on a religious level.
And because of course, none of you is affected by it.

I don’t even know why I’m trying to convince anyone here of anything.
I’m against discrimination in general. Whether it’s Arab Muslims who are racist, or if it’s a white American.
I have complained, I think, just about every race and religion being discriminating, on this site.
I have no problem with people being against criminals. But to judge a woman just based on a piece of cloth on her head? Or a man because of the colour of his skin?
Just the idea sickens me. Like nothing else, I swear. Now I have worked for GreenPeace and Amnesty International. But I never got to help anyone I knew personally so I stopped doing that. At some point I came to the conclusion, maybe it’s even helpful to clear up common misconceptions. Because no matter who you are, I’m sure you know there are enough of those out there.

I had a lot of conversations with the priests around here. I even got one of them to help a little Turkish girl with her German. But yeah I do realise there’s no point in talking about these things on the Internet. So I guess it’s better if I don’t do that anymore on here.

And of course, that way there’s more room for AlecDalek to make “funny” comments.

I’ll go and finish my homework now. Everyone can continue being awesome without me.

@...Sticky:

Haha but that’s not what we did. We were both girls. None of us had anything that the other didn’t so there was nothing new to see. Dude, we compared the length of our pubic hair. That’s gotta be connected to some kind of psychological issues.

Damn. I knew there was a relevant reason why I don’t like hats. Seriously, always hated them. My mother drove me to this figure ice skating event I had, she tried to make me wear this stupid hat, while driving. We actually had a car accident.

I’m hardcore yo.