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    fatherdougal

    Maybe instead of trying to get in some lame “I’m with Her” jabs one full fucking election cycle too late, these dipshits could try and have a molecule of self awareness and realise that we wouldn’t have had the bad orange man as president at all if she wasn’t such a shitty candidate with such a shitty campaign.

    Gropegrope

    Still not her fault though.
    She was 100 times better than Trump.

    songofsickness

    Still lost, though.

    fatherdougal

    How is she absolved of any blame? The fact that she would have been orders of magnitude better than Trump is not relevant here. We’re talking about her electoral defeat, not her hypothetical presidency. Do you really think she has zero agency in this? She lost the single most winnable election in history against the most awful candidate ever. To put it all on how super great cool great and charismatic Trump was as a candidate and pretend the Dems weren’t pure garbage in 2016 is just setting everyone up for exactly the same thing down the road. Hell, if it wasn’t for the high covid death toll that repeat would have 100% guaranteed been the 2020 election.

    tiki god

    and she still handled the loss better than the cheeto

    fatherdougal

    She sure did. NONE of which changes the fact that she really, REALLY fucking sucked as a candidate and bears no small responsibility for the shitshow of the past 4 years.

    tiki god

    but none of that has anything to do with the comparison of you and how you’re reacting to what you’re being told donny.

    songofsickness

    She locked herself in a hotel bathroom for hours instead.

    tiki god

    man, what are you on about?

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