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    TheBleakranger

    New deaths since Aug 01: source www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
    Spain: 343
    Germany: 93
    France: 203
    Australia: 261
    Japan: 124

    FaKe NeWs!!!11!!!!!!!!

    quietschfidel

    The US is having around 1200 deaths per day. So you should add the 1200 times 20 equals to about 24000 DEATHS since Aug 01 to your chart there.

    Old Tofu

    it says “on august 1st” , not since aug 1st. words have different meanings

    quietschfidel

    My source says:
    interaktiv.morgenpost.de/corona-virus-karte-infektionen-deutschland-weltweit/

    Deaths from Jul 31st to Aug 1st
    Spain: 0
    Germany: 7
    France: 0
    Australia: 7
    Japan: 4
    USA: 1199

    So, the graphic would not be 100% correct, but the message is still true.

    Bolthorn

    I mean, let’s split hairs here but the meme does say “on August 1” and the numbers you posted are “since Aug 01”.

    I was unable to manipulate the chart you posted to show just August 1 numbers per country. So since I’m in a virtual meeting that I probably didn’t need to be invited to let’s dig by looking at each individual country page.

    Your source does list a different death total for USA on August 1 of 1,123.
    As well as all the others.
    Spain – 9
    Germany – 2
    France – 3
    Australia – 4
    Japan – 5

    So, different totals than the meme. Some higher, some lower. Could be because of different sources. I think the point of the meme remains that the USA had significantly more deaths than those other countries. Even if we start breaking that done by percentage of population we aren’t looking so good on August 1.

    Looking at the totals of the USA “since Aug 01” we went from a total of 157,949 to 176,337. That’s a jump of 18,388 which is WAY worse than those other country numbers you posted.

    But your “FaKe NeWs!!!11!!!!!!!!” leads me to think you were being intentionally cheeky.

    Like I said, bored in a meeting.

    quietschfidel

    So the meeting still had some value ;-P

    TheBleakranger

    Yes, intentionally cheeky. But good catch with the difference between “on” and “since”. I misunderstood the chart. I did look all those countries and found 2 or three of them on the rise with deaths and cases. Picking and/or choosing a specific date to represent a “trend”, tho, is deliberately misleading. There are other countries above the 1 mil mark (India and Brazil) who have seen a steady incline in cases since May or June. So maybe “USA, #1” has been ahead of the curve all along . . .

    Yes, we are doing terrible in mitigating this crisis, to put it bluntly.

    Bolthorn

    “Picking and/or choosing a specific date to represent a “trend”, tho, is deliberately misleading.” I fully agree with you on that point. Trends and totals are probably much better indicators. Totals and trends as percentage of population and percentage among those tested would probably be useful as well.

    I’m choosing large swings to make a point with these examples and using the royal “you”.
    If you have 0 deaths one day but 100,000 the next and then 500,000 the next the significance of your 0 death day is pretty much meaningless. But going from 100,000 to 70,000 to 30,000 to 10,000 to 5,000, to 1,500, to 750, to 300, to 2 would be starting from a pretty bad place but damn did you mitigate the hell out of that so good job on that front.

    If there was a cheap, or free, way to test at home I think it might be kind of cool to track infection rates that way. Ask for voluntary compliance that everyone test themself every other day or some other determined interval and report the results. Give everyone that participates a random patient number that can’t be traced back to an individual may relief the privacy concerns people are bound to have. I’d like for it to be tracked down to at least the county level in the USA. Could use previous census numbers to estimate percentage of people taking and reporting the test. Also people that are asymptomatic might be smart and stay home until they test negative again.

    Last edited 4 years ago by Bolthorn
    Jac

    A quick Google search says this is fairly accurate for the 1 day total in USA. They’re probably using a different source that NYT/Wikipedia, independently sourced totals vary a bit but well within a statistical margin of error.

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