St Louis couple charged for pulling guns at protest

St. Louis’ top prosecutor has told AP that she’s charging a white husband and wife with felony unlawful use of a weapon for displaying guns during a racial injustice protest outside their mansion.

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    Saborlas

    That lady was one sneeze away from manslaughter. No trigger discipline, gun has no safety.

    budman3163

    You have better eyes than me if you can see from that picture the gun has no safety. But you’re right, she didn’t need to point the gun at anybody. That action alone could have ended tragically. The deterrent to the protesters was enough that the gun was visible at her side. I do think it’s a crock of Sh*t that the prosecutor is trying to put this couple in jail for protecting their home, In that situation, I would have done the same thing.

    MalcoveMagnesia

    Her gun was actually inoperable, and the prosecutor instructed the crime lab to repair it to the point where it would actually work: www.ksdk.com/article/news/local/gardner-staffer-ordered-crime-lab-to-reassemble-patricia-mccloskeys-gun/63-be112149-d06c-4f54-a225-6545e74b5c2d

    Bolthorn

    So she’s even more dumb than we thought. If anyone else would have pulled a weapon in retaliation to her threat of force she would have very quickly lost her life. Brandishing an inoperable firearm is dumber than brandishing a working firearm.

    Bolthorn

    And your statement “the prosecutor instructed the crime lab to repair it to the point where it would actually work” is misleading if not outright false.

    From the article:
    “The gun Patricia McCloskey waved at protesters was inoperable when it arrived at the St. Louis police crime lab, but a member of Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner’s staff ordered crime lab experts to disassemble and reassemble it and wrote that it was “readily capable of lethal use” in charging documents filed Monday, 5 On Your Side has learned.”

    Yes, when assembled properly it was then capable of lethal use.

    Nothing in the article states that anyone knew why the gun was incapable of firing BEFORE it was disassembled. It was disassembled to determine why it wouldn’t fire. Then assembled properly and test fired.

    Then Schwarz’s bullshit quote is him just trying to protect his client. The fact that the gun was inoperable will of course come out in trial.

    If “In Missouri, police and prosecutors must prove that a weapon is “readily” capable of lethal use when it is used in the type of crime with which the McCloskeys have been charged.” is true then she will most likely be cleared.

    Her husband however may still be screwed. No word on his gun yet?

    MalcoveMagnesia

    The protestors broke down the gates to the community and were behaving rather threateningly. I’d say the straightforward reason the McCloskeys house wasn’t vandalized was because they were showing (rather crudely) that they were ready to defend their property.

    Also, is that a gun in the hands of the rightmost demonstrator? Or some kind of microphone?

    Last edited 4 years ago by MalcoveMagnesia
    Bolthorn

    Looks to be what is known in the industry as a “shotgun mic”. They are typically what you would call “very directional” meaning its goal is to pick up sounds only in the direction the mic is pointing. Like if you were in a crowd but only wanted to pic up audio from one person.

    None of this would have happened had these two morons guarded their home from in their home.

    oldnoob

    From the outer gate inward, are part of their property. They were in fact, ” in their home”.

    Sentinel

    The gate is part of a “private” street, which is not personally owned by them. So your statement is false.

    ” A private road can be used by the general public and is open to all who wish to use it”

    legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Private+Roads

    Last edited 4 years ago by Sentinel
    Sentinel

    The crowd was passing by, on the street, in front of their house on the way to protest at the Mayor’s residence down the street. The crowd didn’t care about them and no other property was vandalized. There is even question as to when exactly the gate was damaged. I have yet to see any images that show it conclusively one way or the other.

    In the state of Missouri, it is a felony to point/brandish a firearm at someone that is not threatening you. I don’t know if you’ve watched any of the videos, but no one was threatening this couple. The majority of the crowd is just passing by and you even hear protest leaders instructing people to move on.

    Sentinel

    Here it is. Conclusive video proof that the protesters did not “break down the gates” to gain entry to the street.

    mobile.twitter.com/alexiszotos/status/1277607426934616065

    Also, it would appear that the crowd wasn’t even paying attention to the property until the guy came outside yelling and swinging his gun at people.

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