Hmmn i guess Phelps blow holes all in the ” pot make a lethargic loser ” theroy…. Ha … Phelps FTW … join the ranks of other greats (Willie Nelson , John Denver , Henry Rollins ….) Legalize IT !
@...conan776: Advocates of teh dope smoking are already boycotting Kellog. Subway was cool about it though:
“Like most Americans, and like Michael Phelps himself, we were disappointed in his behavior,†Subway said in a statement. “Also like most Americans, we accept his apology. Moving forward, he remains in our plans.â€
I guess that helps me decide between a 5 dollar foot long and a bowl of Frosted Flakes tonight when I’m sitting on my couch in my underwear.
Gotta say – I know a metric fuck ton of people who regularly smoke pot. Of the ones I know – one in ten (at best) lives a productive life – the rest are not worth a squirt of back alley wino piss.
Trying to seize onto Phelps and claim he is some kind of poster boy for pot??? Fuck off. Not possible – and you know it.
This argument can be wont simply with a “Who gives a fuck?”
So he smoked.. Did he hurt you? Did he touch you in a naughty place? NO! If they take away his medals or his endorsements who cares? Phelps of course will but even he has to understand not everyone is okay with it.. That is the price you pay.
Most swimmers and most college kids smoke, so the I was not at all surprised by this picture.
Why are people making such a damn big deal about this? So he smoked while in Europe. That doesn’t mean he is a bad role model.
If you want a bad role model, look at Lance Armstrong. That man infuriates me. His wife stood by his side while cancer ravaged his body. Then, he abandoned his wife and his kids as soon as he got rich and famous and slept around with various singers and athletic trainers. THAT is a good role model.
If I ever had kids, I would much rather have them putting up posters of Phelps hitting the bong than posters of the world’s biggest hypocrite, Lance Armstrong
@...ack: It’s not about having a poster boy, it’s about being honest with and showing that things can be done in moderation, instead of making it so taboo, so that people are tempted to try it and end up going overboard…
Gotta say – I know a metric fuck ton of people who regularly smoke pot. Of the ones I know – nine in ten (at worst) lives a productive life – the rest are not worth a squirt of back alley wino piss.
Trying to seize onto Phelps and claim he is some kind of poster boy for pot??? Right on! Very possible – and you know it.
Now I know how many retards actually visit this website! “WEED ROX” “LETS GET HIGH ITS COOL BECAUSE EVERYONE DOES IT YAHHHHH!” and then you grow old and instead of being one of those wise old men that knows everything about history, and tells good stories, with a loving family youre a washed up bag of garbage that cant take a dump without something mechanical helping you. Weed is dumb, you are all stupid. I also find it sad that the only way most people have fun in their lives is drinking alcohol and doing drugs with their friends. What kind of life is that? I actually enjoy the parts of my life that can be enjoyed not live in an addictive false reality. Kinda wierd that a 16 year old should have to tell people to grow up. Try having fun without smoking weed or drinking alcohol. You waste your money, waste your time, waste your life, waste your brain, lose your friends, lose your family, and so you smoke more weed and drink more beer. Modern society would be better off if every alcoholic and pot smoker had an addiction for shooting themself in the mouth. Retards.
Ya know wat guise… that was reely moving… I’m beginning to thing Dungholder is right… Drugs r bad mmmkay…? And to think I thought Phelps was kool for hittin’ dat bong. We reely need moar smrt 16 year olds on dis site… I feel so ashamed…
1] He still used drugs and should face all punishments for that, but let him keep the medals, as weed did not affect his performance in a positive way that could be considered cheating – if anything he just wouldn’t be stressed as hell about competition as the weed wuld have relaxed him
2] Just think of how much better he and all other drug users could perform without the influence of those drugs – so crack down on drug use of all sorts and lets see how things improve
@...Dungholder:
really?
i dunno- I totally respect his advertisers’ rights to revoke endorsements, but you can’t take away the sheer athleticism of his accomplishment because he does pot on occasion.
Who would laugh at (you?) or the states in general because of this? the only thing i can think of that would be cause for mockery is the war on drugs, since it tries to make pot out to be this soul killing thing when clearly great things can be accomplished by someone who partakes, albeit he clearly wasn’t on it during the events.
It’s always hard to pick out trolls in threads like this because there are too many people who actually have these woefully undereducated misconceptions about the topic.
However, my instinct says troll. Also, your name is dumb.
@...Dungholder: yes- mine means “the blue-eyed” in Portuguese- yours means shit-hand.
What an odd choice for over-the-top “unrealistic example” wish. . . why harry potter?
@...Dungholder:
I’m starting to think that your daddy is a cop. Please tell me I am wrong. Whether we smoke pot or not, are older than you or…well, never mind on that one, as we are all older than you, is really none of your business. Are we in any way harming you by choosing to smoke or choosing not to? Tell me that our choices are in any way affecting you and you may have some valid points. Otherwise, dude, you are dumb. And this is coming from someone who has smoked pot on and off for pretty much longer than you’ve been alive. And, no, I’m not a loser nor do I have a colostomy bag.
Bro, just from your posts I’d say you need to smoke a joint and chill out. If you were wrong then Pot would be legal? You realize of course, at one point it was illegal for Women to vote? And Blacks used to count as 2/3 a person? I guess we shouldn’t question authority guys. Because the majority of anti-marijuana ads aren’t paid for by big tobacco and alcohol companies, right? While we’re at it, let’s make it so only the whites can vote again?
Could I be any more blunt? Well, I guess I could call you a fucking idiot…
@...Dungholder: I’m sorry, DH, but there are lots of laws that are wrong. You would be surprised the kinds of legal nonsense that is still on the books. The thing is, I know people who’s only alternative to eating a bullet is to smoke a little weed to help them unwind every now and then.
Yes, some people can go out running and achieve the same thing, but for people like Phelps, for whom the major source of stress is actually his physical ability, I think a little weed, used in moderation, is not necessarily a bad thing to help him get away from that for a while.
Note than I am not condoning being a pothead. Or developing a chronic addition like the majority of people that Tiki was talking about. I’ve just grown an intense distaste for the blatant lies that people spew just to bolster their position on something.
You seem smart enough to realize that drugs aren’t a good solution to every problem. I hope you are smart enough to realize that for some people, they are a better solution than others…
TheBigQuestion (#6302)
15 years ago
Ok seriously this thing is put way too out of proportion, just like the airplane crash in the Hudson. Alright so who cares if he smokes weed? The only reason this is so widely spread in the media now is that people go crazy over the corruption of celebrities. The other reason is that this whole story includes a bait the piranha media crowd gobbles up: Marijuana. Look up the true reason weed is illegal. Back than only a small percentage of the population smoked and it was accepted without question or hesistation. Up until the Cold War is where it became a “problem” in our country. I don’t care if weed is legalized or not because its not like its truly enforced in the USA. I honestly just hope it is so the crowd of kids who got onto weed because it was illegal can shut up about it, seriously the only topic of discussion you can get into with a stoner kid is legalization. They don’t even know their basic facts of its history or origin. Most kids at my school know that weed is legal in places other than Amsterdam. So lets stop with the topic, lets educate people and hopefully everyone can shut up about stupid news topics.
I completely agree with the sentiment of the image above, and I have never tried drugs. The thing is that this guy has done a lot and should be cut some slack. If you look through history you will see that his type have done far worse after having accomplished far less.
This is about the 20th time i’ve argued with a pothead and i’ve come to notice that they all think the same. The point i’m trying to make is that weed does SOLVE anything. Something a pothead wouldn’t realize… but once you start to sober up and come back to the real world all your problems are still there. If you wanted to make your life better you would fix your problems not be lazy and smoke weed. I’ve got a horrible problem in my life, my girlfriend lives 800 miles away. I was supposed to see her on valentines day but I couldn’t get my grades up enough and I ended up failing 2 out of my 7 classes. I cant see her for another 4 months… but you don’t see me smoking any weed or drinking any alcohol. I dont follow any trends and to me peer pressure is a myth. If you wanna try to be cool and try weed for the first time thats all cool with me, but when you start to go under its not gunna have an effect on my life.
@... Dungholder
Who said we use pot to solve anything. Not everyone smokes/drinks to escape from reality. I do it for fun, I smoke at least twice a week, and I don’t do it because I have any problems. I’m a college student who has a kickass life right now. The fact that you failed 2 out 7 classes in high school just makes me think you’re dumb. I never tried in high school, and I went to a demanding private school with snob ass kids for 4 years. Your level of intelligence makes me think that your opinion is no longer valid.
Quit stereotyping potheads as burnouts who have a shit load of problems, that just isn’t the case.
I must point out the obvious. The man won 8 gold medals. He’s got endorsements. He probably gets more quality ass than all of us combined. I doubt he needs to escape.
Some one needs to put an ankle monitor on dungholder. He’s definitely most likely to go columbine on us. Hate trolls!
Twee (#5301)
15 years ago
Dungholder said “…weed does SOLVE anything.”: I think you meant doesn’t? I keep running across this particular spelling error; and I don’t understand it. How can people not notice that they have said the exact opposite of their intended meaning? For some reason this sort of thing really bugs me.
@...Twee: yeah i know- i did it on my last comment- *illegal*- but didn’t feel like making a big deal out of a correction.
@...ColombianMonkey: sorry, but if you can’t be bothered to monitor the troll population around here, we can’t be expected to call your mom and tell her to wake you up. I could, however, be persuaded to call your mom for OTHER reasons.
(a nice game of Risk, perhaps?)
Dung- can I call you Dung? Great- I want to tell you that I have smoked pot three times, to test out the three primary delivery systems. Not a big fan of the blunt, as smoking is generally not my bag. The bong was a bit awkward, due to my lack of experience, but was superior in experience to smoking. Cookies kicked ass. I love food, and the time i tried pot cookies, no one had even told me that they were of the special persuasion, so i’d eaten like 6 before someone noticed and stopped me. I got fucking bombed.
I have had a hard life at times, and a ridiculously easy life at others.
I smoked to see how it made me feel, and it made me feel goofy- like being drunk without the full stomach. It didn’t solve any problems and it wasn’t supposed to. The only negative side effect?
The ONLY one? dry mouth. When i came down, i had some nasty gross dry mouth, but i think that was more from eating six poorly made pot cookies and washing it down with improperly spiced mead. (Yes- mead. Done right- awesome. Done wrong? Tastes like Theraflu)
You can rant about potheads and escapism all you want, but those problems apply to anything people take to excess- booze, pot, video games, tv, comic books, or just plain overeating. Granted the consequences aren’t all the same for these habits, but they’re all symptoms of the same self control problem- whatever the cause of that is.
Pot itself isn’t bad. It’s good. The only reason it’s illegal is because a legal pot industry would be booming, and would seriously damage tobacco and booze profits, and so they lobby tirelessly to keep objective research discredited, and public opinion thinking of it as a “drug”
Drugs are controlled substances, Dung- pot is just an herb.
@...ColombianMonkey:
Sorry, I just couldn’t wait. And it had to be done. Run faster next time.
@...Dungholder:
You have “serious” problems, and no one on the internet can help you solve them. Pot will help you relax, but I think it’s too late for you. Go become the next Rev. Fallwell and preach to the masses that dancing and playing cards is evil. Or, better yet, just go away.
Weed is a drug, and it should be kept illegal, and for all those who choose to use it, they can if they want, just stop crying about how many times police harass you about it
laws were set in place to have order, and its reasonable to have anti-drug laws
@...elzarcothepale:
and just to save time, you can’t argue stronger, or longer lasting effects- that logic would demand certain “proofs” of alcohol as illegal.
Why not just make weed the same a booze? it’s legal and taxed and all that jazz and you’re bound by the same laws and regulations as drinkers? How is this not the way it already is?
Weed is illegal because there are political reasons to keep it that way, not because it’s so harmful. Tobacco and alcohol are more harmful than pot. Why are they still legal?
@...Jas3n_bla: I failed 2 out of 7 classes because I could give a shit about what happens when you mix two chemicals together, and I really dont give a shit about what happened 400 years ago in other countries. Also if you have ADD school is extremely hard and last time I took medicine it gave me more problems than i actually had in the first place. @...elzarcothepale: The only difference between Weed and Booze is the fact that its less popular and last time they tried to outlaw alcohol people shot at each other, started little faggy gangs, and cops somehow became even more useless. @...Annarchy: My dad is not a pig (and you are not an anarchist). And how does pot help you relax when you have to go through all the stress of finding someone who will sell it to you, blowing half a paycheck for it, driving home with it in your car checking every corner for cops and making sure you dont do anything wrong to get pulled over, getting home and then finally light it up and when its all gone you repeat the same process. Seems to me like theres more downs than ups and I havent said a thing about what it does to your body so theres certainly more downs. Not that I care if anyone here smokes weed, its the fact that Phelps is representing our country when it comes to olympics. As if other countries didnt think we were already lazy stupid morons. And nobody here seems to realize that obviously nobody will give him a break. Just because you guys smoke weed means that its okay for him to smoke weed?
I lost my train of thought because I have a headache so i cant remember what else I was gunna say so… im gay
@...elzarcothepale: just wanted to say… if you wanted to make alcohol and weed the same why wouldnt you just make them both illegal? why would you make them both legal?
because we’re a free fucking country, you moron.
as long as our use of freedom doesn’t infringe upon someone’s freedoms or rights, we can do whatever the fuck we want. That’s why you can drink, but not drive drunk.
the people who are caught driving drunk are penalized.
people who just drink are not.
stop posting for a second. go outside, get a breath of fresh air, and try to think of the point you are trying to make. You are talking like a befuddled idiot.
Thats because I am a befuddled idiot, it’s called being American. And i’d go outside and get a breath of fresh air but all I smell is gas and mcdonalds… oh yeah, thats probably because i’m in the US right now. Darn
Has your father ever stumbled into the house and thrown you into the wall? Then sit down at the dinner table and eat with his hands and mumble random things? Well thats happened to me. Why is it legal for that to happen? Wanna know why? Because morons like you think its awesome to drink and smoke. Wanna know another reason? Because this earth is driven by greed. Why should a huge business just shut down because people are being harmed and laws are being broken? Because if they did they wouldnt be able to afford those big houses and vintage cars.
My dad goes to AA now and he says he has more fun without in his life without alcohol. Hes a carpenter, he was planning on retiring in a couple years. Hes almost 50. He lost 50,000 dollars in the stock market. All because someone was making a lot of money and not thinking of the consequences. The CEO made out with what? 10 billion dollars? In an interview he was asked if he felt justified in taking that much money. He said he did… “I did everything I could”
@...Dungholder:
Those things happened to you because your Dad was weak for whatever reason. He let go of his ability to make the right choice. His failure is not due to the presence of booze, it’s due to him choosing to run from his problems. Drugs and booze are clearly NOT FOR YOU. However, that doesn’t mean that other people can’t enjoy them responsibly.
Get off the internet and find something to be happy about. Read a damn book. Learn something that betters you.
@...elzarcothepale: Some people don’t have the ability to make the right choice. Nobody wants to be an alcoholic. I am making the right choice. I wont drink. Why would you drink beer when you could just drink coke and it tastes like 80 times better. and if my dad was weak he wouldnt be going to AA so you might wanna rethink that one. When im off the internet I do find stuff to be happy about, i hang out with my friends and have fun without alcohol or drugs! wierd huh. im also in a band and every member of the band is straight edge. wierd, kids that dont fall to peer pressure? strange.
@...Dungholder:
and obama? really? dude, if it were possible to go up there and manhandle people into doing the right thing and making things better, we would have a dictatorship. I’m not saying that wouldn’t be better at first glance. Shit would get done. Of course, the people would have no say in it, and eventually we’d be in Rome again, coming full circle. Concentrate on yourself first and start worrying about the government when you have an idea what the hell you’re talking about.
@...elzarcothepale:
Oh, to be sure. I smoke cigarettes and don’t hold anyone but myself accountable for that addiction. Certainly not the poor tobacco leaf! @...Dungholder:
You have lots of excuses. No solutions. You also assume an awful lot. And you seem to know more about buying pot than I do, which is really interesting. You never answered my original question: How does someone you don’t even know indulging in smoking marijuana affect you personally? Yes, my daddy has been known to get abusive when he drinks. But I don’t know anyone who smokes pot and then throws their kid around like a rag doll. Be serious. Stop spouting shit when you know nothing about the subject except what was forcefed to you you in DARE classes. If you pause for one second and actually read what has been written here, you might learn something. OPEN YOUR MIND, doofus. And please get back on your meds.
@...Dungholder: straight edge is peer pressure too, and AA instructs you to admit that you are weak.
I’m not your peer, idiot. And even if i was, I’m not telling you to “do drugs” I’m telling you to stop talking about them because you are uninformed.
Your Dad deciding to fix his fuck up is good. AA works for weak people. It teaches them to rely on help, higher powers and positive reinforcement to keep themselves from falling back into hurtful habits. Kudos to them. It doesn’t mean they’re strong, it means they know they are weak and are finding way around it.
I have an open mind which is why I have no set religion. But my mind is closed when it comes to drugs and alcohol. And it does effect me because I go to a school in a town with kids that love to drink and do drugs and its annoying to have to deal with them EVERY DAY. And DARE classes are bullshit thats just an attempt to make you think the cops are the good guys. And what would I learn from a bunch of potheads? Actually I just learned one thing. I need a snack! =O
not really. check the nutrition facts on doritos and dr. pepper.
sugar and caffeine are drungs too, big guy. those two have led to the American weight problem almost as much as beer has.
@...Dungholder:
you can be skinny and diabetic, dummy.
the point is that junk food is bad for you unless you use it in moderation. Where’s your righteous attitude towards them?
hahaha but nobody drinks coke and eats doritos and gets mad or runs people over by accident. haha if that happened then doritos and coke would be SO illegal
@...Dungholder: ha- you dumb slut- it isn’t easy to lose weight! It requires effort, the conceptual opposite of ease.
You may be able to now, but when your metabolism slows down, you’ll pack on those pounds like a german schoolboy.
@Dungholder:
Obama has been in office for under 20 days. Do you seriously expect him to magic the economy back to normal in under a year?! He said himself that it would most likely take his fours years to get it back.
Also… www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwDRBm-qbQI
and that’s all I have to say about that. Sorry your dad hits you.
Either you’re just really mad and making bad insults or you’re really fat and defending yourself. Because last time I checked I wasn’t a slut. And last time I checked I was Straight Edge which would also mean I don’t have promiscuous sex. And my friend lost 90 lbs over 2 months… wanna know what he did? He ate 1 meal a day. Thats all he did.
@...Dungholder:
or, i’m just cycling through a bunch of simple taunts.
I’m what you’d call a genetic gold mine. Even if I wasn’t. . . well, lets just say that you don’t really have any means of insulting me, you simple little cockwobble.
I don’t have “promiscuous” sex either (though, to be perfectly honest, what the hell do you even mean by that? do you mean you don’t have sex at all? or you only do it once every 6 months? only with your wife?) but whatever ideals or principles i have, i don’t need a group or a club to belong to to back me up and make me feel accepted.
Your friend has a young body- an infinitely more adaptable tool than an adults.
@...Dungholder: I know you are young, and you don’t know what you don’t know, but you are going to find that the world isn’t half as simple as you seem to think it is.
If I were you, I’d be trying to figure out why there are so many contradictions in what I see around me, rather than blindly defending my position in the face of mountains of contradictory evidence.
Your father may have been a drunk, but that was your father’s doing. The alcohol was not what made him a drunkard. Many people have used alcohol without becoming drunkards. The moment you decide to shut down your brain, and refuse to logically think about something, even if it is because you experienced a traumatic experience related to it, you are dooming yourself to never actually learning anything from the experience.
Don’t let your fathers mistakes damage you any more than they have. Work through it, and actually think about why it what happened. Bravery does not exist in the absence of fear. Bravery is an act of courage in the face of fear. It is the same with anything else.
Avoiding alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, sex, etc. like the plague is not what what will prevent you from becoming an addict. Until you learn how to view them with neither fear, yearning nor loathing, they will control you. You will be no better off than your Dad…
It’s definitely going to make the argument against Mary more difficult, he should make a run to legalize it…
He’s in college. Everyone does it. Legalize It!
Judging from professional athletes, sports are a gateway to drug use. Think of the children! Ban sports!
Its just weed, not stroids.
Hmmn i guess Phelps blow holes all in the ” pot make a lethargic loser ” theroy…. Ha … Phelps FTW … join the ranks of other greats (Willie Nelson , John Denver , Henry Rollins ….) Legalize IT !
YES!!!! Love this man even more now. And they can’t take away his medals, can they?
Boycott General Mills!
Really? no one knew this? We didnt figure it out when he told us his diet.
@...conan776: Advocates of teh dope smoking are already boycotting Kellog. Subway was cool about it though:
“Like most Americans, and like Michael Phelps himself, we were disappointed in his behavior,†Subway said in a statement. “Also like most Americans, we accept his apology. Moving forward, he remains in our plans.â€
I guess that helps me decide between a 5 dollar foot long and a bowl of Frosted Flakes tonight when I’m sitting on my couch in my underwear.
Gotta say – I know a metric fuck ton of people who regularly smoke pot. Of the ones I know – one in ten (at best) lives a productive life – the rest are not worth a squirt of back alley wino piss.
Trying to seize onto Phelps and claim he is some kind of poster boy for pot??? Fuck off. Not possible – and you know it.
@...ack:
But that’s true of people who don’t smoke pot, too.
@...suicydking:
Exactly.
This argument can be wont simply with a “Who gives a fuck?”
So he smoked.. Did he hurt you? Did he touch you in a naughty place? NO! If they take away his medals or his endorsements who cares? Phelps of course will but even he has to understand not everyone is okay with it.. That is the price you pay.
It doesn’t effect, me or anyone else but him..
I say.. Let it go.
Who gives a fuck if he smokes pot. Its not like he took steroids to make him better. This just means he is a better athlete then we knew.
Now matter what he smokes or how many medals he wins… he’ll always look like Lurch and nothing will ever change that.
LEAVE MICHAEL ALONE!
Most swimmers and most college kids smoke, so the I was not at all surprised by this picture.
Why are people making such a damn big deal about this? So he smoked while in Europe. That doesn’t mean he is a bad role model.
If you want a bad role model, look at Lance Armstrong. That man infuriates me. His wife stood by his side while cancer ravaged his body. Then, he abandoned his wife and his kids as soon as he got rich and famous and slept around with various singers and athletic trainers. THAT is a good role model.
If I ever had kids, I would much rather have them putting up posters of Phelps hitting the bong than posters of the world’s biggest hypocrite, Lance Armstrong
I always figured that when Lance lost that nut at least half his brain went with it.
LEAV… wait, what? fuck it, let’s take another hit.
@...ack: It’s not about having a poster boy, it’s about being honest with and showing that things can be done in moderation, instead of making it so taboo, so that people are tempted to try it and end up going overboard…
Gotta say – I know a metric fuck ton of people who regularly smoke pot. Of the ones I know – nine in ten (at worst) lives a productive life – the rest are not worth a squirt of back alley wino piss.
Trying to seize onto Phelps and claim he is some kind of poster boy for pot??? Right on! Very possible – and you know it.
I’ve wondered from the moment that this story was published how much the little fuck who took the photo sold Phelps out for.
Now I know how many retards actually visit this website! “WEED ROX” “LETS GET HIGH ITS COOL BECAUSE EVERYONE DOES IT YAHHHHH!” and then you grow old and instead of being one of those wise old men that knows everything about history, and tells good stories, with a loving family youre a washed up bag of garbage that cant take a dump without something mechanical helping you. Weed is dumb, you are all stupid. I also find it sad that the only way most people have fun in their lives is drinking alcohol and doing drugs with their friends. What kind of life is that? I actually enjoy the parts of my life that can be enjoyed not live in an addictive false reality. Kinda wierd that a 16 year old should have to tell people to grow up. Try having fun without smoking weed or drinking alcohol. You waste your money, waste your time, waste your life, waste your brain, lose your friends, lose your family, and so you smoke more weed and drink more beer. Modern society would be better off if every alcoholic and pot smoker had an addiction for shooting themself in the mouth. Retards.
Ya know wat guise… that was reely moving… I’m beginning to thing Dungholder is right… Drugs r bad mmmkay…? And to think I thought Phelps was kool for hittin’ dat bong. We reely need moar smrt 16 year olds on dis site… I feel so ashamed…
Well if I was wrong then weed would be legal. So you sir are dumb.
2 points:
1] He still used drugs and should face all punishments for that, but let him keep the medals, as weed did not affect his performance in a positive way that could be considered cheating – if anything he just wouldn’t be stressed as hell about competition as the weed wuld have relaxed him
2] Just think of how much better he and all other drug users could perform without the influence of those drugs – so crack down on drug use of all sorts and lets see how things improve
Id take away the medals just because I wouldnt wanna be laughed at all the time when someone mentions the Olympics
@...Dungholder:
really?
i dunno- I totally respect his advertisers’ rights to revoke endorsements, but you can’t take away the sheer athleticism of his accomplishment because he does pot on occasion.
Who would laugh at (you?) or the states in general because of this? the only thing i can think of that would be cause for mockery is the war on drugs, since it tries to make pot out to be this soul killing thing when clearly great things can be accomplished by someone who partakes, albeit he clearly wasn’t on it during the events.
It’s always hard to pick out trolls in threads like this because there are too many people who actually have these woefully undereducated misconceptions about the topic.
However, my instinct says troll. Also, your name is dumb.
@...Dungholder:
also- weed being legal has nothing to do with its “negative effects”
“your name is dumb” says elzarco the pale. i wish i though of that amazing name. i also wish i wrote harry potter
@...Dungholder: yes- mine means “the blue-eyed” in Portuguese- yours means shit-hand.
What an odd choice for over-the-top “unrealistic example” wish. . . why harry potter?
grow up dude stop casting spells
For some reason, I think that Dungholder
a. has never tried weed
b. is Mormon
c. was once sodomized by a weed dealer.
d. All of the above.
@...Dungholder:
I’m starting to think that your daddy is a cop. Please tell me I am wrong. Whether we smoke pot or not, are older than you or…well, never mind on that one, as we are all older than you, is really none of your business. Are we in any way harming you by choosing to smoke or choosing not to? Tell me that our choices are in any way affecting you and you may have some valid points. Otherwise, dude, you are dumb. And this is coming from someone who has smoked pot on and off for pretty much longer than you’ve been alive. And, no, I’m not a loser nor do I have a colostomy bag.
@Dungholder
Bro, just from your posts I’d say you need to smoke a joint and chill out. If you were wrong then Pot would be legal? You realize of course, at one point it was illegal for Women to vote? And Blacks used to count as 2/3 a person? I guess we shouldn’t question authority guys. Because the majority of anti-marijuana ads aren’t paid for by big tobacco and alcohol companies, right? While we’re at it, let’s make it so only the whites can vote again?
Could I be any more blunt? Well, I guess I could call you a fucking idiot…
@...Dungholder: I’m sorry, DH, but there are lots of laws that are wrong. You would be surprised the kinds of legal nonsense that is still on the books. The thing is, I know people who’s only alternative to eating a bullet is to smoke a little weed to help them unwind every now and then.
Yes, some people can go out running and achieve the same thing, but for people like Phelps, for whom the major source of stress is actually his physical ability, I think a little weed, used in moderation, is not necessarily a bad thing to help him get away from that for a while.
Note than I am not condoning being a pothead. Or developing a chronic addition like the majority of people that Tiki was talking about. I’ve just grown an intense distaste for the blatant lies that people spew just to bolster their position on something.
You seem smart enough to realize that drugs aren’t a good solution to every problem. I hope you are smart enough to realize that for some people, they are a better solution than others…
Ok seriously this thing is put way too out of proportion, just like the airplane crash in the Hudson. Alright so who cares if he smokes weed? The only reason this is so widely spread in the media now is that people go crazy over the corruption of celebrities. The other reason is that this whole story includes a bait the piranha media crowd gobbles up: Marijuana. Look up the true reason weed is illegal. Back than only a small percentage of the population smoked and it was accepted without question or hesistation. Up until the Cold War is where it became a “problem” in our country. I don’t care if weed is legalized or not because its not like its truly enforced in the USA. I honestly just hope it is so the crowd of kids who got onto weed because it was illegal can shut up about it, seriously the only topic of discussion you can get into with a stoner kid is legalization. They don’t even know their basic facts of its history or origin. Most kids at my school know that weed is legal in places other than Amsterdam. So lets stop with the topic, lets educate people and hopefully everyone can shut up about stupid news topics.
Kellogg Customers More Concerned With Phelps Than Tainted Peanut Butter
@...nyokki: LOL… wow…
I completely agree with the sentiment of the image above, and I have never tried drugs. The thing is that this guy has done a lot and should be cut some slack. If you look through history you will see that his type have done far worse after having accomplished far less.
Damn.
I wrote my sarcastic comment about useless pot smokers while I was drunk.
There should be something hypocritical about that… nah…
@...nyokki: interesting article, but misleading title. It makes you think there’s actually a survey of Kelogg Customer opinions on the matter.
@...elzarcothepale:
@...Annarchy:
@...Theo11: fuck you guys for starting without me….. lol
This is about the 20th time i’ve argued with a pothead and i’ve come to notice that they all think the same. The point i’m trying to make is that weed does SOLVE anything. Something a pothead wouldn’t realize… but once you start to sober up and come back to the real world all your problems are still there. If you wanted to make your life better you would fix your problems not be lazy and smoke weed. I’ve got a horrible problem in my life, my girlfriend lives 800 miles away. I was supposed to see her on valentines day but I couldn’t get my grades up enough and I ended up failing 2 out of my 7 classes. I cant see her for another 4 months… but you don’t see me smoking any weed or drinking any alcohol. I dont follow any trends and to me peer pressure is a myth. If you wanna try to be cool and try weed for the first time thats all cool with me, but when you start to go under its not gunna have an effect on my life.
@... Dungholder
Who said we use pot to solve anything. Not everyone smokes/drinks to escape from reality. I do it for fun, I smoke at least twice a week, and I don’t do it because I have any problems. I’m a college student who has a kickass life right now. The fact that you failed 2 out 7 classes in high school just makes me think you’re dumb. I never tried in high school, and I went to a demanding private school with snob ass kids for 4 years. Your level of intelligence makes me think that your opinion is no longer valid.
Quit stereotyping potheads as burnouts who have a shit load of problems, that just isn’t the case.
I must point out the obvious. The man won 8 gold medals. He’s got endorsements. He probably gets more quality ass than all of us combined. I doubt he needs to escape.
Some one needs to put an ankle monitor on dungholder. He’s definitely most likely to go columbine on us. Hate trolls!
Dungholder said “…weed does SOLVE anything.”: I think you meant doesn’t? I keep running across this particular spelling error; and I don’t understand it. How can people not notice that they have said the exact opposite of their intended meaning? For some reason this sort of thing really bugs me.
@...Twee: yeah i know- i did it on my last comment- *illegal*- but didn’t feel like making a big deal out of a correction.
@...ColombianMonkey: sorry, but if you can’t be bothered to monitor the troll population around here, we can’t be expected to call your mom and tell her to wake you up. I could, however, be persuaded to call your mom for OTHER reasons.
(a nice game of Risk, perhaps?)
Dung- can I call you Dung? Great- I want to tell you that I have smoked pot three times, to test out the three primary delivery systems. Not a big fan of the blunt, as smoking is generally not my bag. The bong was a bit awkward, due to my lack of experience, but was superior in experience to smoking. Cookies kicked ass. I love food, and the time i tried pot cookies, no one had even told me that they were of the special persuasion, so i’d eaten like 6 before someone noticed and stopped me. I got fucking bombed.
I have had a hard life at times, and a ridiculously easy life at others.
I smoked to see how it made me feel, and it made me feel goofy- like being drunk without the full stomach. It didn’t solve any problems and it wasn’t supposed to. The only negative side effect?
The ONLY one? dry mouth. When i came down, i had some nasty gross dry mouth, but i think that was more from eating six poorly made pot cookies and washing it down with improperly spiced mead. (Yes- mead. Done right- awesome. Done wrong? Tastes like Theraflu)
You can rant about potheads and escapism all you want, but those problems apply to anything people take to excess- booze, pot, video games, tv, comic books, or just plain overeating. Granted the consequences aren’t all the same for these habits, but they’re all symptoms of the same self control problem- whatever the cause of that is.
Pot itself isn’t bad. It’s good. The only reason it’s illegal is because a legal pot industry would be booming, and would seriously damage tobacco and booze profits, and so they lobby tirelessly to keep objective research discredited, and public opinion thinking of it as a “drug”
Drugs are controlled substances, Dung- pot is just an herb.
i heard that he was smoking harmless tobacco
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@Dungholder: get an education, you have no idea what you are talking about
@...ColombianMonkey:
Sorry, I just couldn’t wait. And it had to be done. Run faster next time.
@...Dungholder:
You have “serious” problems, and no one on the internet can help you solve them. Pot will help you relax, but I think it’s too late for you. Go become the next Rev. Fallwell and preach to the masses that dancing and playing cards is evil. Or, better yet, just go away.
ffs people wake up and see the truth
Weed is a drug, and it should be kept illegal, and for all those who choose to use it, they can if they want, just stop crying about how many times police harass you about it
laws were set in place to have order, and its reasonable to have anti-drug laws
@...KommissarKvC:
dude, how is weed different than booze?
@...elzarcothepale:
and just to save time, you can’t argue stronger, or longer lasting effects- that logic would demand certain “proofs” of alcohol as illegal.
Why not just make weed the same a booze? it’s legal and taxed and all that jazz and you’re bound by the same laws and regulations as drinkers? How is this not the way it already is?
@...KommissarKvC:
Weed is illegal because there are political reasons to keep it that way, not because it’s so harmful. Tobacco and alcohol are more harmful than pot. Why are they still legal?
@...Annarchy:
to be fair: “Tobacco” in its current incarnation is more harmful- the plant itself can hardly be held accountable for the industry
@...Jas3n_bla: I failed 2 out of 7 classes because I could give a shit about what happens when you mix two chemicals together, and I really dont give a shit about what happened 400 years ago in other countries. Also if you have ADD school is extremely hard and last time I took medicine it gave me more problems than i actually had in the first place.
@...elzarcothepale: The only difference between Weed and Booze is the fact that its less popular and last time they tried to outlaw alcohol people shot at each other, started little faggy gangs, and cops somehow became even more useless.
@...Annarchy: My dad is not a pig (and you are not an anarchist). And how does pot help you relax when you have to go through all the stress of finding someone who will sell it to you, blowing half a paycheck for it, driving home with it in your car checking every corner for cops and making sure you dont do anything wrong to get pulled over, getting home and then finally light it up and when its all gone you repeat the same process. Seems to me like theres more downs than ups and I havent said a thing about what it does to your body so theres certainly more downs. Not that I care if anyone here smokes weed, its the fact that Phelps is representing our country when it comes to olympics. As if other countries didnt think we were already lazy stupid morons. And nobody here seems to realize that obviously nobody will give him a break. Just because you guys smoke weed means that its okay for him to smoke weed?
I lost my train of thought because I have a headache so i cant remember what else I was gunna say so… im gay
@...elzarcothepale: just wanted to say… if you wanted to make alcohol and weed the same why wouldnt you just make them both illegal? why would you make them both legal?
because we’re a free fucking country, you moron.
as long as our use of freedom doesn’t infringe upon someone’s freedoms or rights, we can do whatever the fuck we want. That’s why you can drink, but not drive drunk.
but people do drive drunk, so why should you drink?
the people who are caught driving drunk are penalized.
people who just drink are not.
stop posting for a second. go outside, get a breath of fresh air, and try to think of the point you are trying to make. You are talking like a befuddled idiot.
Thats because I am a befuddled idiot, it’s called being American. And i’d go outside and get a breath of fresh air but all I smell is gas and mcdonalds… oh yeah, thats probably because i’m in the US right now. Darn
sigh.
just. . . don’t breed, okay?
Why because they wouldn’t grow up to be an alcoholic or something?
no, man. . .
because you’re a tragedy,
and you need to get your head right before you spawn.
Has your father ever stumbled into the house and thrown you into the wall? Then sit down at the dinner table and eat with his hands and mumble random things? Well thats happened to me. Why is it legal for that to happen? Wanna know why? Because morons like you think its awesome to drink and smoke. Wanna know another reason? Because this earth is driven by greed. Why should a huge business just shut down because people are being harmed and laws are being broken? Because if they did they wouldnt be able to afford those big houses and vintage cars.
My dad goes to AA now and he says he has more fun without in his life without alcohol. Hes a carpenter, he was planning on retiring in a couple years. Hes almost 50. He lost 50,000 dollars in the stock market. All because someone was making a lot of money and not thinking of the consequences. The CEO made out with what? 10 billion dollars? In an interview he was asked if he felt justified in taking that much money. He said he did… “I did everything I could”
And look! Our new great president that promised to fix everything and bring hope and change to everything hasnt brought hope OR change to ANYTHING.
@...Dungholder:
Those things happened to you because your Dad was weak for whatever reason. He let go of his ability to make the right choice. His failure is not due to the presence of booze, it’s due to him choosing to run from his problems. Drugs and booze are clearly NOT FOR YOU. However, that doesn’t mean that other people can’t enjoy them responsibly.
Get off the internet and find something to be happy about. Read a damn book. Learn something that betters you.
@...elzarcothepale: Some people don’t have the ability to make the right choice. Nobody wants to be an alcoholic. I am making the right choice. I wont drink. Why would you drink beer when you could just drink coke and it tastes like 80 times better. and if my dad was weak he wouldnt be going to AA so you might wanna rethink that one. When im off the internet I do find stuff to be happy about, i hang out with my friends and have fun without alcohol or drugs! wierd huh. im also in a band and every member of the band is straight edge. wierd, kids that dont fall to peer pressure? strange.
@...Dungholder:
and obama? really? dude, if it were possible to go up there and manhandle people into doing the right thing and making things better, we would have a dictatorship. I’m not saying that wouldn’t be better at first glance. Shit would get done. Of course, the people would have no say in it, and eventually we’d be in Rome again, coming full circle. Concentrate on yourself first and start worrying about the government when you have an idea what the hell you’re talking about.
@...elzarcothepale:
Oh, to be sure. I smoke cigarettes and don’t hold anyone but myself accountable for that addiction. Certainly not the poor tobacco leaf!
@...Dungholder:
You have lots of excuses. No solutions. You also assume an awful lot. And you seem to know more about buying pot than I do, which is really interesting. You never answered my original question: How does someone you don’t even know indulging in smoking marijuana affect you personally? Yes, my daddy has been known to get abusive when he drinks. But I don’t know anyone who smokes pot and then throws their kid around like a rag doll. Be serious. Stop spouting shit when you know nothing about the subject except what was forcefed to you you in DARE classes. If you pause for one second and actually read what has been written here, you might learn something. OPEN YOUR MIND, doofus. And please get back on your meds.
@...Dungholder: straight edge is peer pressure too, and AA instructs you to admit that you are weak.
I’m not your peer, idiot. And even if i was, I’m not telling you to “do drugs” I’m telling you to stop talking about them because you are uninformed.
Your Dad deciding to fix his fuck up is good. AA works for weak people. It teaches them to rely on help, higher powers and positive reinforcement to keep themselves from falling back into hurtful habits. Kudos to them. It doesn’t mean they’re strong, it means they know they are weak and are finding way around it.
I have an open mind which is why I have no set religion. But my mind is closed when it comes to drugs and alcohol. And it does effect me because I go to a school in a town with kids that love to drink and do drugs and its annoying to have to deal with them EVERY DAY. And DARE classes are bullshit thats just an attempt to make you think the cops are the good guys. And what would I learn from a bunch of potheads? Actually I just learned one thing. I need a snack! =O
Doritos and Dr. Pepper, better than weed and beer
not really. check the nutrition facts on doritos and dr. pepper.
sugar and caffeine are drungs too, big guy. those two have led to the American weight problem almost as much as beer has.
@...Dungholder:
ARGH. You know so much about me, it’s like you’re psychic! Wow.
yeah but i weigh 120 lbs so i could care less how fat people are. not my problem.
@...Dungholder:
you can be skinny and diabetic, dummy.
the point is that junk food is bad for you unless you use it in moderation. Where’s your righteous attitude towards them?
Who said anything about diabetes? I dont have it and im not fat. And I hate fat people that complain. Its so easy to lose weight theyre just lazy.
using your own thinking- if coke and Doritos make some people fat because they have no self control, they should be illegal.
hahaha but nobody drinks coke and eats doritos and gets mad or runs people over by accident. haha if that happened then doritos and coke would be SO illegal
@...Dungholder: ha- you dumb slut- it isn’t easy to lose weight! It requires effort, the conceptual opposite of ease.
You may be able to now, but when your metabolism slows down, you’ll pack on those pounds like a german schoolboy.
@...Dungholder:
perhaps, perhaps not- booze isn’t
@Dungholder:
Obama has been in office for under 20 days. Do you seriously expect him to magic the economy back to normal in under a year?! He said himself that it would most likely take his fours years to get it back.
Also…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwDRBm-qbQI
and that’s all I have to say about that. Sorry your dad hits you.
@...Theo11:
i’m pretty sure he’s 14, so there isn’t much point to this besides me amusing myself
Either you’re just really mad and making bad insults or you’re really fat and defending yourself. Because last time I checked I wasn’t a slut. And last time I checked I was Straight Edge which would also mean I don’t have promiscuous sex. And my friend lost 90 lbs over 2 months… wanna know what he did? He ate 1 meal a day. Thats all he did.
@...Theo11: 2 of Obama’s advisors are already gone.
@...Dungholder:
or, i’m just cycling through a bunch of simple taunts.
I’m what you’d call a genetic gold mine. Even if I wasn’t. . . well, lets just say that you don’t really have any means of insulting me, you simple little cockwobble.
I don’t have “promiscuous” sex either (though, to be perfectly honest, what the hell do you even mean by that? do you mean you don’t have sex at all? or you only do it once every 6 months? only with your wife?) but whatever ideals or principles i have, i don’t need a group or a club to belong to to back me up and make me feel accepted.
Your friend has a young body- an infinitely more adaptable tool than an adults.
this would probably be an easier argument on the www.myconfinedspace.com/chat/ page. I much prefer making you look like an idiot in real time
It means I dont have sex with random people. Which happens a lot at parties containing alcohol and drug use.
not any of the parties I’ve ever been to.
and out in Manhattan, Ks- my college town, that was pretty much all there was to do.
Im done arguing though because my doritos are losing flavor and my cup of Dr.Pepper just ran dry. I lose.
say goodnight to your mom
@...elzarcothepale:
Cockwobble! That is my new word of the month!
goodnight…? mom…? what?
just thank eddie izzard, and shut up till you’re 18
what happens when im 18
@...Dungholder:
Nothing.
depends.
how old are you now?
16
@...Dungholder: I know you are young, and you don’t know what you don’t know, but you are going to find that the world isn’t half as simple as you seem to think it is.
If I were you, I’d be trying to figure out why there are so many contradictions in what I see around me, rather than blindly defending my position in the face of mountains of contradictory evidence.
Your father may have been a drunk, but that was your father’s doing. The alcohol was not what made him a drunkard. Many people have used alcohol without becoming drunkards. The moment you decide to shut down your brain, and refuse to logically think about something, even if it is because you experienced a traumatic experience related to it, you are dooming yourself to never actually learning anything from the experience.
Don’t let your fathers mistakes damage you any more than they have. Work through it, and actually think about why it what happened. Bravery does not exist in the absence of fear. Bravery is an act of courage in the face of fear. It is the same with anything else.
Avoiding alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, sex, etc. like the plague is not what what will prevent you from becoming an addict. Until you learn how to view them with neither fear, yearning nor loathing, they will control you. You will be no better off than your Dad…