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    GrandAdmiralThrawn

    This photo is a lie. *Fact*

    Not every member did. Many were forced to testify against their will. *Fact*

    The Secretary of the Navy’s actions were illegal, as it violated double jeopardy, because Chief Petty Officer Gallagher had received a trial. *Fact*

    Most enlisted members of the military, including myself feel was nothing more then a witch hunt by arm chair officers who have never actually seen combat. *Opinion, but that is our feeling*

    Chief Petty Officer Gallagher was pardoned. *Fact*

    Chief Petty Officer Gallagher was convicted of and pardoned for the crime of re-enlisting at a politically inconvenient location, out where he did his job. As his job is to kill people, there were dead bodies around. *Fact*

    It is normal accepted practice to take photos during a re-enlistment ceremony. *Fact*

    After the trial The Secretary of the Navy Undermined Good order and Discipline by opening up an illegal investigation into a matter that had already been to trial. *Fact*

    The Secretary of the Navy should be facing criminal charges under UCMJ. *Fact*

    That he is not facing criminal charges is yet another example between the difference in how senior officers are treated, vs junior officers and enlisted personal. *Fact*

    GrandAdmiralThrawn

    I have no doubt Chief Petty Officer Gallagher is an undisciplined cowboy, and an asshole. Every navy seal I’ve ever met is. So the fact that his guys thought he was a dick? Who cares. Lots of senior NCOs are. In fact that tends to be what you want.

    Marines can go either way, but to my knowledge I’ve never worked with any force recon types.

    Army SF guys are universally cool, working with, learning from or learning with.

    Delta guys are cool to work with.

    Air Force JTACs are cool.

    tiki god

    lol “forced”.

    GrandAdmiralThrawn

    They were ordered to testify. Under the UCMJ they do not have the option not to.

    GrandAdmiralThrawn

    More than once I’ve had to fill out sworn statements, which are under oath. Lying is serious jail time under UCMJ.

    Sometimes over some very stupid things.

    Once was over a cracked window. Facilities mantiance swore it wasn’t broken when we signed for the building. The guys sleeping at that end of the room swore it was.

    I was at the far end, never noticed the window had a crack in it.
    Sworn statement went something like this:

    “prior to being told to fill out a sworn statement I had no knowledge about the window in question. I am still unable to say, to my personal knowledge that the window is or is not broken, or even in fact exists. I have no knowledge of how the window became broken, if it is broken, or when breakage may have occurred.

    tiki god

    that’s my point, they were ordered to tell the truth, and they chose to tell the truth.

    GrandAdmiralThrawn

    Yep, and he wasn’t convicted on any of the actually serious charges. Found not guilty on all of them.

    The only thing he was convicted of was posing in a photo.

    That was it.

    Gropegrope

    How do you manage to type spinning that fast…?

    tj755

    LOL, me thinks he doth protest too much.

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