I think the biggest problem with Atheism is that the group is largely Anti-religion. Granted there are problems with Christianity. Tiki brought up a great point and Die offered a good rebuttal. I think the biggest thing working against atheists is that you have assholes like richard dawkins assuming that the religion itself is the problem. That is clearly not the case. Christianity like any belief system ( And yes atheism is a belief system) can be manipulated to serve ones own personal ideals. That’s how you get people like osama bin laden and jim jones. So you can’t hold the religion itself responsible. It’s like saying homosexuality is directly responsible for pedophilia.

@...sylvanish:
You win the thread.
@...nyokki:

Interesting idea. If only other people were as sensible as you. It’s not too hard to understand why people disbelieve, especially when something especially cruel and unfair were to happen to you. Me personally i have just as many reasons to believe in god as i don’t. The only reason i believe is because i have seen some wild and absolutely crazy shit that no sane or rational person would ever believe. And i don’t expect people to believe me. Hell sometimes i don’t even believe me.

@...nyokki:

Well yeah, i agree with you there. A lot of the ones i meet in real life aren’t fundamentalist in their doctrines. But internet atheists from what i have experienced tend to be dogmatic and imposing on their beliefs. I guess thats what happens when you get a lot of people together with the same belief. I’ve also noticed younger atheists tend to be more radical. Don’t get me wrong a lot of atheists aren’t crazy religion hating nazis. It’s just the ones who are tend to be the most outspoken and give a bad image to what is more or less a logically sound outlook on the universe. The same thing happens in most religions. And as far as debating it goes i think the reason either side gets heated is because neither can actually back themselves up with cold hard factual evidence. Sure a person could ” faith heal” someone and say that it was the work of god but what if it was coincidence and just pure science? And a person can argue there is no god but why can’t it be possible that science is what makes god work? I think thats why there is a feud between religious people and atheist people. Both sides run into a paradox and instead of saying ” well shit that’s interesting, maybe you have a point.” they begin just reverting back to previous arguments and start acting like assholes. I think a lot of the older atheists in the real world are aware of that and are comfortable saying ” i don’t know for sure.” They dont become all hot headed and assly when someone makes them question their beliefs. . I guess the loud ones on both sides are Busy trying to convince themselves more than the other.