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    Professor Ratbaggy

    Because, of course, that’s exactly how it is in countries with gun control laws like Australia, New Zealand, Great Britain, etc., etc., etc…

    Wildman7316

    Perhaps you might like to revue the Violent Crime Statistics in Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand from BEFORE the Gun Bans and after. While those of the “Violent” United States went DOWN in all Categories, those “Safer” Countries at BEST stayed steady, but for most Categories they went UP. Which Country according the UN has a bigger Problem with Violent Crime, the United States or Great Britain? If you guessed Great Britain you Guessed wrong.

    Wildman7316

    Nice try, and HOW many more people are there in the United States than in Great Britain? I know that the United States has 5 times the Population of Great Britain, yet it has LESS than twice the total number of Crimes. Break it out according to Armed Assault, Armed Robbery, Murder, Rape etc and the Picture gets even uglier. You are welcome to make the same comparisons vs Australia and New Zealand.

    timtim

    Comparing violent crimes is difficult because many countries categorize violent crimes differently.

    However, you can still look at the massively disproportionate murder rate.

    timtim

    US Murder Rate:4.2
    US Total Number of Murders: 12,996

    UK Murder Rate: 1.2
    UK Total Number of Murders: 722

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#By_country

    Wildman7316

    The First thing to keep in mind is that Great Britain is the same Country that was holding people in Ambulances until enough of the wait for the Emergency Room has cleared out to make a “Wait Limit”. Their Regional Police Departments have also been “Adjusting” their Crime Statistics to keep the Grants Coming. I am Personally aware that a Person can be Killed by another Person, who is then “Administratively” determined to be “Insane” so that the Dead Person was NOT “Murdered”. To get the TRUE Numbers you have to dig into the Health Ministry Numbers where you can find out how many people died of which cause. Since “Motor Vehicle Accident” and “Fall” are separate Numbers from “Blunt Force Injury”, the number of people who die by being stabbed, strangled, shot and just plain beat to death without being Murdered is simply astounding. It took me 3 Years and Several Thousand Dollars to be able to prove that my Niece was a victim of a Homicide so the Insurance Company would make the Settlement here in the US since the British Government wouldn’t say HOW she died.

    On the Other Hand, in the US the “Numbers” come from how an Incident is Investigated, so one death might be reported as both a “Suicide”, Murder AND Accidental Death, in this example a fall off of a Building.

    timtim

    Lotta citations needed for me to take that post serious.

    Wildman7316

    You are welcome to TRY to get them, that’s my POINT. While for the US, NIH and the FBI have fairly Complete and easy to get to Numbers which are then broken out and down into distinct Catagories. Great Britain on the other hand…

    Good Luck.

    timtim

    In other words it’s just bullshit you made up.

    Wildman7316

    “Bullshit you made up”? No, not hardly. But you are welcome to find the Information on you own. Here’s a HINT, it’s NOT on-line. You are going to have to make a Freedom of Information Act Request (again, and Again, AND AGAIN). Start Here, I damn near have the Address memorized:

    Ministerial Correspondence and Public Enquiries
    Department of Health
    Richmond House
    79 Whitehall
    London SW1A 2NS

    Nurgen

    Derp, way to not understand the topic. Those 3 bottom pictures? Yeah, they’re not pictures of “violent crime”.

    jeffapotimus

    I generally think of Minnesotans as reasonable people, but the tard is strong with this one.

    timtim

    Lol. You think a few silly firearms would protect you from a government that has tanks and predator drones?

    Let me laugh even harder.

    Hector

    So much “this”.

    GreedyDrunk

    What is protecting Americans from their oppressive government is not their guns, its the fact that they don’t have an oppressive government.

    Wetwrks

    Yet…

    Luke Magnifico

    Ever heard of Stellar Wind? The time for revolution came and went and nobody even noticed.

    GreedyDrunk

    I agree that everything even remotely resembling privacy is under attack. As technology because better and cheaper it will get harder and harder to not have the government and businesses tracking your movements and actions. People don’t care because they don’t see it happening and aren’t inconvenienced by it.

    Saborlas

    Trollin’, trollin’, trollin’
    Damn, your ego’s swollen

    WistfulD

    Obama wants to create the socialist states of america? Thanks Troll, you could have waited until after the first panel to show us your true colors.

    EuroUSA

    Yeah, I’m sure you’re a real expert about what a “socialist” country is.

    I’ve lived in a socialist country for the last 20+ yrs and I can unequivocally tell you that if America is becoming a socialist state than you must also believe in unicorns that shit pots of gold. Where do you get this crap from? I’m being dead-serious – I would really like to know.
    Every time I hear a fellow American say this about this President… my socialist friends here have a laugh.

    nobody

    You realize he is making fun of the idea that Obama is making America socialist, right?

    WOOPIE GOLDBURGH

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