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    How dare they put her through all that just to have an abortion? Don’t they know that fetus might be a girl! Or even BLACK! It needs to be destroyed NOW!!! Without anyone pretending it’s a human being!!!

    By the way, let’s say my girlfriend gets pregnant. She wants to have the baby and loves the idea of being a mother. But I don’t feel like being a father. If I give her something that causes her an abortion, did I commit any crime?

    If a gynecologist gives pregnant women a pill that causes them to abort because, well, they have the wrong color and he can’t allow them to multiply, can he? Did he commit any crime? And is that crime equivalent to breaking somebody’s phone, or equivalent to mass murder?

    Anonymoose

    If I wait to get involved in these debates until both sides stop being irrational, insensitive, black-and-white solution seeking douche bags, is that okay?

    Luke Magnifico

    NO

    BACK ON TOPIC, WE SHOULD ABORT ALL FETUSES THAT LOOK LIKE HITLER DID WHEN HITLER WAS A FETUS

    #makecasemdsgreatagain

    THIS WORKS BECAUSE ALL THE IRISH GET KILLED

    gx5000

    My Wife’s from Dublin, Ireland, the land where condoms cost the most…the Irish are more likely to keep the child, it’s the Anglos that are more likely to value their personal freedom over a child, just sayin…

    gx5000

    “If I give her something that causes her an abortion, did I commit any crime?”
    Yes
    “If a gynecologist gives pregnant women a pill that causes them to abort”
    No
    “or equivalent to mass murder?”
    You’re under forty aren’t you……

    neiladin

    As a Texan, I’m sorry. I didn’t vote for any of the ass-hats that actually got elected 🙁

    rylock

    It’s okay. We won’t hold it against you. Besides, Arizona, Mississippi, Oklahoma, and a slew of other states are just as bad right now.

    notspamming

    No one EVER votes for “bad” politicians, yet somehow they get elected.
    Strange.

    gx5000

    They are chosen for us no matter where you live…
    And they’ve already sold their ethics to gain higher office….
    It’s always going to be elect the least of two or three evils….
    Humanity, we suck…

    bstaples

    And to think, this all could’ve been avoided if you exercised your real freedom of choice: “Which contraceptive will I use?” Abortion is an archaic response to an archaic understanding of sex. We, as humans, know how this shit works now; the mystery on how babies come about has been solved.

    Don’t want a kid? Prevent the pregnancy. Argument solved and my taxpayers funds don’t have to go to either fucking idiot-camps.

    Paul_Is_Drunk

    Like this hasn’t been discussed a billion+ times.

    Anyway: Rape.

    Should women always take birth control to prevent pregnancy from rape? “Well, don’t get raped!” And then the argument cycle continues…

    bstaples

    Well that cycle ends once you stop putting rape on the same level as “Fuuuuuck either Chad, Sean, or Aiden got me pregnant at that party last month…”

    Second, IIRC there are ECPs (Emergency Contraceptive Pills) for like up to 5 days after fertilization or something.

    Third, “Life of Baby vs Life of Mother” arguments are off the table as well. That’s no one’s business but the 2 adults involved.

    Fourth, look at how that whore is dressed in those panels. Out of the eight times they show her, five of those times she’s wearing nothing but a gown with her legs in the air . That’s the type of person we’re talking about. Someone who’d rather just wait around for the taxpayer funded abortion than take simple precautionary measures.

    gx5000

    “wait around for the taxpayer funded abortion”

    THERE’S NO SUCH THING, HELL, THEY EVEN HAVE TO PAY FOR THEIR OWN RAPE KIT…

    Korinthian

    Must be a neat little world you live in, where stupid teenagers don’t have sex without condoms or where mistakes don’t happen.

    Grow the fuck up, bstaples. We’re not living in magical bible times, we live in reality.

    bstaples

    Hi Kory. :3

    Korinthian

    Wait, are you a clump of cells or are you the real bstables? It’s so hard to tell the difference.

    bstaples

    I think it’s cute that you constantly try to goad me into your shit. It’s like you’re riding my dick out of some warped interpretation of “Tough Love”.

    Anyway…Doonsbury, amirite?

    Korinthian

    Thanks. I’m well aware that I can come across as cute (it’s a gift). I’m just trying to make you realize that your antiquated ideas won’t survive much stronger forces such as the Internet and common sense.

    I know thinking can be hard, and fundamentalist ideas are your go-to option, but one day you will have to grow up.

    Good luck!

    bstaples

    @kor: So you think “Fuck, don’t get pregnant, fuck some more”, is “antiquated, weak, and fundamentalist” compared to have “Fuck, panic, kill what’s inside”?

    You’re either that stupid or you use words that you have no idea what they mean…which is stupid as well. There’s no hope for you, is what I’m saying.

    Korinthian

    There’s the bstables I know! Reducing complex issues to two simple (quite advanced for you, though) sides isn’t doing anyone any favors, least of all your online reputation’s.

    I know you want reality to conform to your beliefs, but things aren’t always as simple as “don’t get pregnant,” especially not with Christian and/or republicans crying for the abolishment of sex education and contraceptives.

    I might be stupid according to you, but at least I’m brave enough to look at how things work out there.

    Oh, and a helpful tip: Oppressing women might be a bad idea for when you’re old enough to date them.

    bstaples

    No you’re still fucking stupid. It really isn’t any more complicated when we’re talking about a grown woman, in sound body and mind, who can sit down and answer these quick questions:
    >Are you sexually active or would like to be?
    >Do you want a kid?
    If both are yes, have sex without a contraceptive. If first is yes and second is no, here’s a fucking booklet. Choose a method to prevent having that kid.

    A talking head was being interviewed on MSNBC the other day and she said that “she can’t feel like a woman, until she gets to decide when to have a child.” Exact quote. Please explain to me why Abortion fills that need and not any of the myriad of contraceptives available?

    You haven’t explained why that’s such a “dreamworld, wildly hypothetical” situation besides bringing up “dumb kids and shit happens.” That’s your brave world view that I should adopt? Don’t encourage pregnancy prevention…because it’s simple?!

    No “faggot Liberal” or “in-the-closet Conservative” has been able to state why such a blaring middle ground is rabidly opposed by both sets. But here’s the reason: people like you enjoy keeping others polarized. You use demagoguery to make you feel superior to those who disagree with you.

    And no Kory, sweetheart, I don’t have 2 shits to give about my “online reputation”, you goddamn minor, you.

    gx5000

    “my taxpayers funds don’t have to go to either fucking idiot-camps.”
    Old and erroneous right wing talking point.
    You’re not going to be paying for abortions, enough already…
    But I’d gladly pay for contraception for most Americans….just sayin’…
    Vive le Canada !

    bstaples

    So am I to assume you aren’t in the US?
    Then allow me to correct your “old and erroneous” thinking. States provide a form of health insurance, paid for by taxpayers, for the lower-class called Medicaid. Once you’re of age to have a kid, you can sneak behind daddies back, apply for Medicaid and get an abortion. Paid for by us.

    A lady who is normally ineligible for Medicaid due to her income, is allowed to have a higher pay rate once she gets pregnant, thus allowing her to get a termination with Medicaid, rather than paying for one out of pocket. Once again, with a service we pay for.

    Here in NY, Medicaid provides what’s called Family Planning Services, which is basically male and female contraceptives (preventative and ECPs) OB-GYN visits and so on. Which we pay for.

    So yes. Taxpayers fund Medicaid who then shells out money for abortions and for contraceptives.

    Coolerking

    Which is why you should pay attention to bstaples arguments that use little know things to liberals we like to call “facts.” As polarizable as Abortion is to most people…in my mind it is a simple scenario. No across-the-board taxpayer funding. The Democrats…NOT the Republicans have repeatedly blocked the efforts to fund and improve discussion about pregnancy prevention. Instead … for the last 30 years they have been about changing the argument to somehow claim that it is morally right to let a woman terminate a person’s life almost all the way up to actual birth. Now we have the ability to keep neonates alive at 24 and, in some circumstances, 22 weeks from conception. So discussion about late stage abortion is a discussion very much about murder. The example bstaples gave is telling. I’m a physician and just had to cancel surgery for an 18 year old who didn’t know she was pregnant (a beta HCG is routine preop for all women). When asked by multiple family members, nurses, and myself did she know who the father might be…her response was a shrug and a “maybe.” The level of irresponsiblity these days with human life is staggering. We should NOT fund abortion for any scenario outside of rape or the imminent DEATH of the mother. If you want an abortion, had an accident, and are morally deficient enough to pursue it…fine….but its on YOUR dime. I refuse to sponsor it and certainly will not cede the moral high ground on this issue.

    Coolerking

    Actually, AZ is pretty awesome right now. Liberals constantly are ruining our country. I don’t see what is wrong with this concept. But liberals constantly try and claim that the reason conservatives are against late stage abortion is because they don’t want women to have control over their own bodies. What a bunch of horseshit! How about…take responsibility? And don’t throw the “women who were raped” clause at me. Give me a break. There were over 53 million abortions performed since Roe v. Wade. I’m pretty sure that there weren’t 53 million rapes in that same time frame. It’s funny…liberals would rather kill babies…but the thought of killing violent criminals on death row is absolutely anathema to them. What’s the problem with having an ultrasound prior to … you know…murdering your child with a brain, a heart and limbs? Do you think it might make a young woman have the ability to make a real “informed” decision? Or no…like most liberals….facts are scary…and a woman should make this decision out of pure fear and emotion? Anyone who is against this….or is for late stage abortions is a murderer. Pure and simple. If you don’t want to get pregnant…there is “choice”…don’t have sex. But liberals want it both ways….completely irresponsible behavior coupled with unadulterated murder on demand.

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