Reboot is right. That looks like the National Cemetery in France. @Korinthian: The way you know your countries defences are strong, is when your troops are not being killed on your own soil, but on the soil of those who threatened your way of life. So yes, they died in defence of their country, and they did a damn good job of defending it too.
@Korinthian: I’m going to just point out again that your country conducted the longest race based eugenics programme in the history of the world. You are basically the kinds of genocide and ethnic cleaning.
The irony is that there’s no clever way of justifying it like “defence” that the Americans have.
That typo was a regrettable mistake. Not as regrettable as the world longest-running ethnic cleansing programme so I guess I can have some perspective on the whole typogate thing.
Oh, yeah, since these soldiers died in WWII, it would do to point out that they were saving your ass from Nazi occupiers.
“The Swedish government felt that it was in no position to openly contest Germany, and therefore collaborated with Hitler. Swedish volunteers in Nazi SS units were among the first to invade the Soviet Union in Operation Barbarossa. Sweden also supplied steel and machined parts to Germany throughout the war.”
Wow, I’m sorry, TWO of the world’s most successful ethnic cleansing programmes. My bad.
I’ll remember to send USA a thank-you note for saving me repeatedly from the constant dangers of the middle east.
Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’ll go back to sterilizing hobos and self-proclaimed intellectuals that are desperately trying to get a rise out of someone on the Internet.
1) The least significant vikings. While the Danes and Norwegians were taking over goddamn Europe the Swedes were carving their names onto combs and rocks. But somehow not as impressively as the Danes: home.no.net/ahrunes/de-rune-jellinge-big.jpg
Now that’s a fucking runestone. Compare that to the monkey-like etchings the Swedes produced.
2) Sweden finds its level in the Kalmar Union and is dominated by Denmark for centuries. Rightfully. It is commonly agreed that with their Danish overlords to help them along, this is one of the few instances Sweden thrived (the other involved Nazi overlords).
3) Independence from Denmark. Sweden embarks on a pointless crusade to undo the work of Hanseatic/Dutch merchants and destroys Nothern/Eastern Europe’s economy. Sweden’s reign of hilarious incompetence is interrupted by Peter the Great, who kicks their ass back to Stockholm and has one of his petty footsoldiers kill Sweden’s king.
4) Ethnic cleansing/nazi collusion
5) Propped up by EU/Danish economic support. No longer has the ability to wage ethnic cleansing and begins to act all preachy towards the rest of the world because of a clean two-decade track record that has more to do with impotence than anything.
Behold, the story of the greatest failure of any country on Earth.
And you pulled all that from memory? Impressive! Btw, ABBA sung in Swedish too.
Oh, and I can make a list longer than that just by looking at the accomplishments of the current president, but well, you seem to be able to navigate wikipedia better than I ever will.
And you really can’t fault us swedes for killing people, we came from Vikings and started up Russia, you know.
Killing is good for you, just ask the families of the soldiers buried in the Arlington Cemetary (tries to get things back on topic).
Oh, and I forgot about Sweden’s greatest artist ever: Ingmar Bergman. He made movies about how awesome religion is.
I’ll hand it to the Swedes for one thing: They are much better than the Danes at making religious movies. I mean ‘Nattvardsgästerna’ is way more inspiring to the faithful than boring, crappy ‘Ordet’.
Good for you Swedes: you make excellent inspiring movies about how awesome God and faith are.
Regarding Swedish religious movies: luckily we pretty much grew out of superstition, which seems to be working out just fine. Now we leave the atrocities to “the greatest democracy in the world”.
Actually, Rurik, legendary founder of Kievan Rus’ (actually not related to Russia and mainly located outside of what’s now Russia), if he existed at all, was probably a Dane.
Nestor’s chronicle – which I’ve read many times, and written on – much like probably more Swedish history or history in general than you even know exists – was written hundreds of years after Rurik may or may not have lived. While we have a lot of outside info on Oleg, for example, everything we know about Rurik comes from that one page. And if you read it, it’s very very very vague. You could interpret that (what is probably) a folk legend any way you wanted.
The only kind of evidence he even existed is that some Danish noble with a similar name went missing right around the same time. There are also a few Sagas that refer to Rurik, but they quite likely borrowed directly from Nestor’s version of events.
I’d say Sweden has an Ok history. Certainly not as cool as Denmark or Finland or even – to be frank – Estonia. But it did exist so that is something.
I like shopping at Ikea. That’s why I can’t really hate Sweden that much. Except that once I finish building anything from there, I can’t move it or else the particleboard that makes up the furniture will fall apart.
Most of the time I just leave the furniture behind when I move…Sweden: Home of Ikea – The Makers of Disposable Furniture
Early Russian history is actually really fun, because of all the Soviet Propaganda, pre-Soviet ‘pan-slavic’ propaganda, and the counter-propaganda out of Germany and the US.
Go find a book about Novgorod – or as they call it now the Novgorod Republic for some insane anachronistic non-factual reason. Read it. Absorb it in awe, then go read the Novgorod chronicle and realize how many centuries of at-best speculation and at-worst making shit up has been squeezed out of certain key especially non-descript and non-specific sentences.
Now, Russia, there’s a country with an interesting history.
But now I understand why you’re of such a one-track mind: it’s your one and only expertise!
It was becoming slightly annoying with you waving a history book in my face every other sentence, but now that I know I’ll leave you to it. After all, I wouldn’t dream of robbing you of the thing you feel is very important to you and make you feel knowledgable.
@the_duck … what do you mean disposable? Every time I move I just list all my Ikea furniture on line and it sells same day. The staying power of the dollar value on Ikea furniture rules. I *hate* shopping but I actually don’t mind going to Ikea from time to time. *looks lovingly at bookshelf*
I’ve been to Malmo Sveden, I liked it. The Oresund is huge and tha gurls there are hawt and promiscuous. >=}
Thrella (#3595)
16 years ago
“I’ll remember to send USA a thank-you note for saving me repeatedly from the constant dangers of the middle east.
Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’ll go back to sterilizing hobos and self-proclaimed intellectuals that are desperately trying to get a rise out of someone on the Internet.”
That’s a bit one sided, there are people who agree with the man. You can say its for protection or whatnot, but most people sure hate genocide.
Oh and We’re not saving your ass, we’re saving Israel’s ass. For some reason.
Yeah, whoever put Israel there must have been a bunch of morans.
I have no number on the civilian casualties in the middle east thanks to USAders waging for made-up reasons, or how many soldiers have died, but considering that, the excuses that the USAdish government comes up with aren’t worth much. Maybe it’s not genocide, but close enough.
If USAders hate genocide so much, they should stand up and do something because it’s not like your leaders listen to the rest of the world.
You know that something is wrong about a war when the government won’t allow people to take pictures of the coffins arriving from Iraq.
Korinthian, you’ve been missing out of the connection I was trying to make so I’ll spell it out for you:
An Atheist or a Swede does something bad = no biggie
A religious person or a non-Swede does something far less bad = merits constant complaint.
Further, whenever an atheist disagrees with you you accuse them of being religious.
So do you actually have convictions and opinions, or are you a mindless tribalist, desperately clinging to and blindly supporting whatever groups you identify with?
. . . huh? Since when where you trying to make that point? For most of this thread you’ve just been rambling on about how much Sweden supposedly sucks, and there’s been barely any mention of religion.
Also, there is a jew in that cemetary. Find him, and you win a special prize.
Caio, is there any way I can answer this that will not result in another history lesson?
Tell you what, post something like a Swede strangling a baby and I will discuss it, does that sound fair to you? It sure does to this tribalist.
And when you stop arguing like a religious person, I will call you an atheist, but until then I will just call you less flattering things.
Im not taking sides but someone’s gotta say it: B U R N!!!!!!
I have an uncle buried there.
Wow =7
Solemn post wook, visually pretty, but solemn.
I respect the military. (mostly because I am in tha military)
GOD BLESS AMERICA
@... one: ditto
if only the men who run our military cared about the individuals they’ve fed through their money machine
That’s not Arlington. It looks like a military cemetery in France.
A lot of Christians.
If only they had died defending their country instead of destroying another.
I’m proud of these men for dying not only in the defense of their country, but in the defense of other countries as well =].
That’s not Arlington, at all. Graves at Arlington have a tombstone, not a cross.
Haha: pic unrelated
Reboot is right. That looks like the National Cemetery in France.
@Korinthian: The way you know your countries defences are strong, is when your troops are not being killed on your own soil, but on the soil of those who threatened your way of life. So yes, they died in defence of their country, and they did a damn good job of defending it too.
Jagermeister: Wow, you actually believe that? If you are an USAder I’d like to issue a big thanks for voting Bush a second time.
FSM bless America.
@Korinthian: I’m going to just point out again that your country conducted the longest race based eugenics programme in the history of the world. You are basically the kinds of genocide and ethnic cleaning.
The irony is that there’s no clever way of justifying it like “defence” that the Americans have.
*kings
That typo was a regrettable mistake. Not as regrettable as the world longest-running ethnic cleansing programme so I guess I can have some perspective on the whole typogate thing.
Caio: A third time? You’ve got to come up with some new material. Don’t be a sad little one-trick pony, you’re embarrassing yourself.
Oh, yeah, since these soldiers died in WWII, it would do to point out that they were saving your ass from Nazi occupiers.
“The Swedish government felt that it was in no position to openly contest Germany, and therefore collaborated with Hitler. Swedish volunteers in Nazi SS units were among the first to invade the Soviet Union in Operation Barbarossa. Sweden also supplied steel and machined parts to Germany throughout the war.”
Wow, I’m sorry, TWO of the world’s most successful ethnic cleansing programmes. My bad.
I’ll remember to send USA a thank-you note for saving me repeatedly from the constant dangers of the middle east.
Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’ll go back to sterilizing hobos and self-proclaimed intellectuals that are desperately trying to get a rise out of someone on the Internet.
Sorry? What’s that? I couldn’t hear you over the sound of Sweden’s long record of ethnic cleansing and Nazi collaboration.
Assault my country’s history all you like. I draw the line when you start using puns to make a point (for the sixth time in a row).
OK Here’s my brief e-history of Sweden:
1) The least significant vikings. While the Danes and Norwegians were taking over goddamn Europe the Swedes were carving their names onto combs and rocks. But somehow not as impressively as the Danes:
home.no.net/ahrunes/de-rune-jellinge-big.jpg
Now that’s a fucking runestone. Compare that to the monkey-like etchings the Swedes produced.
2) Sweden finds its level in the Kalmar Union and is dominated by Denmark for centuries. Rightfully. It is commonly agreed that with their Danish overlords to help them along, this is one of the few instances Sweden thrived (the other involved Nazi overlords).
3) Independence from Denmark. Sweden embarks on a pointless crusade to undo the work of Hanseatic/Dutch merchants and destroys Nothern/Eastern Europe’s economy. Sweden’s reign of hilarious incompetence is interrupted by Peter the Great, who kicks their ass back to Stockholm and has one of his petty footsoldiers kill Sweden’s king.
4) Ethnic cleansing/nazi collusion
5) Propped up by EU/Danish economic support. No longer has the ability to wage ethnic cleansing and begins to act all preachy towards the rest of the world because of a clean two-decade track record that has more to do with impotence than anything.
Behold, the story of the greatest failure of any country on Earth.
Oh yeah, I forgot, ABBAmania. They sung in English because Swedes are embarrassed of their own filthy tongue.
And you pulled all that from memory? Impressive! Btw, ABBA sung in Swedish too.
Oh, and I can make a list longer than that just by looking at the accomplishments of the current president, but well, you seem to be able to navigate wikipedia better than I ever will.
And you really can’t fault us swedes for killing people, we came from Vikings and started up Russia, you know.
Killing is good for you, just ask the families of the soldiers buried in the Arlington Cemetary (tries to get things back on topic).
Oh, and I forgot about Sweden’s greatest artist ever: Ingmar Bergman. He made movies about how awesome religion is.
I’ll hand it to the Swedes for one thing: They are much better than the Danes at making religious movies. I mean ‘Nattvardsgästerna’ is way more inspiring to the faithful than boring, crappy ‘Ordet’.
Good for you Swedes: you make excellent inspiring movies about how awesome God and faith are.
ME-YOOOW!
Cat fights rock!
Regarding Swedish religious movies: luckily we pretty much grew out of superstition, which seems to be working out just fine. Now we leave the atrocities to “the greatest democracy in the world”.
Can’t stay the champ forever, can we?
Actually, Rurik, legendary founder of Kievan Rus’ (actually not related to Russia and mainly located outside of what’s now Russia), if he existed at all, was probably a Dane.
I rely more on Nestor’s chronicle that I just read about, since it supports my point.
Sweden has a fascinating history, don’t you agree?
Who needs cable TV when you’ve got Caio VS Korinthian on MCS?
It’s educational too! I’d never read this stuff if I didn’t have to.
Nestor’s chronicle – which I’ve read many times, and written on – much like probably more Swedish history or history in general than you even know exists – was written hundreds of years after Rurik may or may not have lived. While we have a lot of outside info on Oleg, for example, everything we know about Rurik comes from that one page. And if you read it, it’s very very very vague. You could interpret that (what is probably) a folk legend any way you wanted.
The only kind of evidence he even existed is that some Danish noble with a similar name went missing right around the same time. There are also a few Sagas that refer to Rurik, but they quite likely borrowed directly from Nestor’s version of events.
I’d say Sweden has an Ok history. Certainly not as cool as Denmark or Finland or even – to be frank – Estonia. But it did exist so that is something.
I like shopping at Ikea. That’s why I can’t really hate Sweden that much. Except that once I finish building anything from there, I can’t move it or else the particleboard that makes up the furniture will fall apart.
Most of the time I just leave the furniture behind when I move…Sweden: Home of Ikea – The Makers of Disposable Furniture
Early Russian history is actually really fun, because of all the Soviet Propaganda, pre-Soviet ‘pan-slavic’ propaganda, and the counter-propaganda out of Germany and the US.
Go find a book about Novgorod – or as they call it now the Novgorod Republic for some insane anachronistic non-factual reason. Read it. Absorb it in awe, then go read the Novgorod chronicle and realize how many centuries of at-best speculation and at-worst making shit up has been squeezed out of certain key especially non-descript and non-specific sentences.
Now, Russia, there’s a country with an interesting history.
Looks like you do get why I rely on it after all.
But now I understand why you’re of such a one-track mind: it’s your one and only expertise!
It was becoming slightly annoying with you waving a history book in my face every other sentence, but now that I know I’ll leave you to it. After all, I wouldn’t dream of robbing you of the thing you feel is very important to you and make you feel knowledgable.
huh huh… Caio said Oleg.
@the_duck … what do you mean disposable? Every time I move I just list all my Ikea furniture on line and it sells same day. The staying power of the dollar value on Ikea furniture rules. I *hate* shopping but I actually don’t mind going to Ikea from time to time. *looks lovingly at bookshelf*
@Korinthian
It almost motivates me to google topics and see what comes up. Almost. :p
When you see it, you will shit bricks.
Normandy American National Cemetery in France.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normandy_American_Cemetery_and_Memorial
Who needs cable TV when you’ve got Caio VS Korinthian on MCS?
Comment by outofocus
lawlz outofocus, serial(serious/forreal)!
Mith: I doubt that word (serial) will catch on, at least I hope it won’t with the same vehemence I hoped “lawlz” wouldn’t.
@... Korinthian
I sea wut u did ther. ur fairy klever.
I’ve been to Malmo Sveden, I liked it. The Oresund is huge and tha gurls there are hawt and promiscuous. >=}
“I’ll remember to send USA a thank-you note for saving me repeatedly from the constant dangers of the middle east.
Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’ll go back to sterilizing hobos and self-proclaimed intellectuals that are desperately trying to get a rise out of someone on the Internet.”
That’s a bit one sided, there are people who agree with the man. You can say its for protection or whatnot, but most people sure hate genocide.
Oh and We’re not saving your ass, we’re saving Israel’s ass. For some reason.
Yeah, whoever put Israel there must have been a bunch of morans.
I have no number on the civilian casualties in the middle east thanks to USAders waging for made-up reasons, or how many soldiers have died, but considering that, the excuses that the USAdish government comes up with aren’t worth much. Maybe it’s not genocide, but close enough.
If USAders hate genocide so much, they should stand up and do something because it’s not like your leaders listen to the rest of the world.
You know that something is wrong about a war when the government won’t allow people to take pictures of the coffins arriving from Iraq.
Korinthian, you’ve been missing out of the connection I was trying to make so I’ll spell it out for you:
An Atheist or a Swede does something bad = no biggie
A religious person or a non-Swede does something far less bad = merits constant complaint.
Further, whenever an atheist disagrees with you you accuse them of being religious.
So do you actually have convictions and opinions, or are you a mindless tribalist, desperately clinging to and blindly supporting whatever groups you identify with?
@... Caio:
. . . huh? Since when where you trying to make that point? For most of this thread you’ve just been rambling on about how much Sweden supposedly sucks, and there’s been barely any mention of religion.
Also, there is a jew in that cemetary. Find him, and you win a special prize.
WAIT A MINUTE, I just checked again and I found at least four jews. So now if you find one it’s 1/4 of the special prize. Collect all four!
Militaries, Religions, Nations…and they’re even proud of it!
FUCK YOU ALL GOD BLESS AMERICA
This picture has nothing to do with bush.
Though I’m sure the arguing derailed from the pic a while ago (tl;dr’d most of it) as is custom in these threads.
Also God (should he exist) bless the men and women who fought against the nazis. Wish things were as black and white now as they were then.
Caio, is there any way I can answer this that will not result in another history lesson?
Tell you what, post something like a Swede strangling a baby and I will discuss it, does that sound fair to you? It sure does to this tribalist.
And when you stop arguing like a religious person, I will call you an atheist, but until then I will just call you less flattering things.
EPIC Thread! haha – and epic image too.
@... Lord Cocksworth
I count at least nine jews just lying around there.
I WANT MY SPECIAL PRIZE!!!
times two and one/fourth
Im not taking sides but someone’s gotta say it: B U R N!!!!!!
@... Lorfmachine:
Are there REALLY nine jews in there or did you just grab an extra few from your attic?
For reals, I counted nine.
I’d like to keep my attic-jews a bit longer. For emergency purposes.