Screw you guys. There’s nothing wrong with teaching your kids about firearms. The one in the middle is a bit young, but probably just wanted to be in the picture. Sport shooting with your family is completely different that child-soldiers in Africa, it doesn’t even merit comparison.
How is sport shooting a legitimate family activity when kids that young are involved? It takes no imagination and teaches them no useful skills except shooting things. There are a plenty of activities available for kids that don’t expedite aggression.
i agree with reboot on this one. naturally the first thing a kid would do when they get their hands on a gun is put their finger on the trigger. but it is clear that the parents in this case showed the importance of trigger discipline. good on them. and it doesnt matter what gun you sport shoot with. i go to the range with my father often and i love to take the 12ga. sure its no good for target practice but its FUN to shoot. just shooting at the ground is fun with that thing. and i am about the most non-violent person you will meet. and i have played games like doom since i was 4 and just beat condemned 2. you don’t see me going out and killing people. video games and guns are harmless. when in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing or supervised by one.
I’m with reboot. As with anything, if you make it too forbidden, it just makes it all the more appealing. Kids need to be exposed to stuff they WILL have to deal with when they are older. I for one offer up my services to anyone with a 17 year old daughter. They have to learn about perverts some time.
jeffapotimus -i think you know that im fucking right and just tried to make a lame excuse. not to mention you ignored everything else i said. you sir are a fucking idiot.
And now for another installment of Faggot Theater!
My little boy asked me why wars happen today. And I had no answer. Isn’t that the most beautiful thing? He didn’t know why war happens and I couldn’t tell him. I just told him that war never solves anything and never has and guns are just tools of hate. I know this because in Pissyfart Illonnoying where I live we get CNN and MSNBC. I shot a gun once and it hurt my feelings. It’s like we as a society need to learn to solve our problems with words. Like when my little boy wants candy and I’m like “fuckoff fatwad” it gets the point home without violence. George Bush could learn a lot from me. It’s like sometimes you have to set aside your religious beliefs and just get along whether you’re republican or democrat. Guns don’t do anything good for anyone. They’re made by trolls in underwater factories near one of those brown countries and forced upon Americans. And ya we have a right to bear arms and I’ll defend that I also want people to know that I don’t agree with it. I just want a world where we don’t need guns and solve our problems with conversation and tea.
It’s sad to read how hysterical people get about guns. AFAIK, the weapons depicted here are: Mossberg shotgun (probably a 500), Tek 9 , and a Colt AR-15, btw.
If a kid is taught proper respect and handling of firearms, they are MUCH less likely to misuse them in the future. If you keep guns in the house, it only makes sense to educate your children about them. Including teaching them that they are a weapon of violence. Very dangerous, yes lethal, but an important tool when used correctly. I shot my first fully automatic weapon when I was 5 years old. I had already learned muzzle control, proper stance, trigger discipline, and foremost: DO NOT AIM AT SOMETHING YOU DO NOT WISH TO DESTROY. It was an Uzi, btw… I grew up to be a geek, a firearms instructor, and a moderately upstanding citizen. I’ve never killed anyone (not that I haven’t desperately wanted to), despite having readily accessible firearms near me most of my life. Granted, my anecdotal experience cannot be taken as representative, or even common-place. The reason I bring it up is, again, to point out that familiarity with firearms is unlikely to be a causal factor in violence.
Respect firearms as a dangerous tool. Fear individuals, for they are what cause firearms to become lethal weapons in the wrong (or right) hands.
This is a classic worn argument. Let’s look at Canada. They outlawed firearm ownership and instances of rape and other violent crime increased. Accidental death by gun is statistically low comparatively speaking. Homicide by gun is low – comparatively speaking. Guns are good deterrents for violent crime. If a criminal thinks they might get shot, they think twice about being a criminal. If you teach your children firearm safety and proper handling they will not shoot themselves. Parents forget to teach their children respect in general which is the broader problem at hand. Firearm ownership is a constitutional right for a reason. Why don’t we consider banning cars, and knives?
I think it’s good that these girls are going to grow up prepared for the day the government turns against its people; the twinkies run out; or aliens/zombies/Canadians/terrorists invade.
What the fuck? We’re allowed to have fire arms here in Canada. We need them to keep the polar bears and Inuit out of the trash cans.
Seriously, don’t believe everything Michael Moore says (I like the guy, but he exaggerates too much). We do control some types of fire arms, and we recently enacted a controversial gun registry. But if I wanted a hunting rifle, I could go get one right now. No waiting list.
Even if I wanted a Handgun, there are lots of them on the street here. Stay out of the Jane/Finch area of Toronto.
Still, it’s hard to ward off a violent criminal with a .30-06… a bit cumbersome. You shouldn’t have to get your handgun off the street.
I’ve read a couple of Moore’s books. He does make excellent points occasionally, then blows his credibility all to hell by exaggerating and twisting the truth to suit his argument. Last I heard, he wanted to ban handguns. Has he changed his position? What’d I miss?
Again, apologies for wrong word choice in the last post… I had a misfire.
Go back and read my post. You were right about what, exactly? That you like to shoot guns? Uh, ok… No argument.
The only thing I may disagree with is that ‘it is clear that the parents in this case showed the importance of trigger discipline.’ You can’t tell that from one picture, you’re just talking out your ass. (If they had been holding the guns properly by the grip with their trigger fingers in safe position, that might be another thing…)
And what ‘excuse’ was I making, exactly? Are you perhaps a little bit retarded?
You see, I wasn’t disputing anything you said, I was being judgmental. And I still am. Here, watch, I’ll do it again: You are a limp-dick. See?
For the record, I believe in the second amendment and all that, I’m just disgusted by gun-fetishist rednecks. You know, people like you.
@Alec
It’s actually pretty hard to get a rifle even for hunting. If you buy a shotgun they practically want a DNA sample now. Handsguns are pretty much outlawed though you can get one if you really want it. But you have to keep it in your house and when you go to the shooting range it has to be locked in a box in your trunk and they give you a route to drive to your preferred range and a time limit on your commute. Not too many people I know have guns.
Ya you could go to Jane and Finch but you’re more likely to get arrested than find someone to buy a gun from. That area is full of pussies and hobos. They call it a ghetto and wah wah wah. If someone from a real ghetto saw it they’d think it was paradise and probably be pretty pissed at people who think they’re so bad off living there…for free.
Many of you guys bring up excellent points regarding gun safety, exposing and education kids about the safety and danger of gun use.
I grew up in a hunting part of the country; we don’t have balls on the back of our trucks, we don’t wear cowboy hats, we don’t have confederate flags hanging from our front porch, and we don’t chew tobacco. My parents drive a Honda Civic and a CRV.
Many of you bring up the argument that as long as kids are educated about gun safety, they’ll be able to handle a gun in a responsible matter. True for 99% of gun users. However, there ARE parents out there who choose to expose their kids to guns with serious disregard for safety, control, and mechanisms. These kids may be a product of either an educated or an uneducated household, we don’t know.
Not much different from this:
i48.photobucket.com/albums/f230/GunsofTPatriots/KISO08.jpg
Wow, that’s really sad, especially in comparison to the one that you linked… great parenting skills at work there. 😛
I really hope those weapons are cleared. But since we are seeing the parenting style in action, I assume they aren’t. 🙁
Screw you guys. There’s nothing wrong with teaching your kids about firearms. The one in the middle is a bit young, but probably just wanted to be in the picture. Sport shooting with your family is completely different that child-soldiers in Africa, it doesn’t even merit comparison.
Sport shooting? With a pump action and what looks like some kind of uzi? THE FUCK ARE THEY HUNTING?!?!?!?
That’s the kind of stuff to fight Godzilla-esque giant wasps. Well that and fire
How is sport shooting a legitimate family activity when kids that young are involved? It takes no imagination and teaches them no useful skills except shooting things. There are a plenty of activities available for kids that don’t expedite aggression.
i agree with reboot on this one. naturally the first thing a kid would do when they get their hands on a gun is put their finger on the trigger. but it is clear that the parents in this case showed the importance of trigger discipline. good on them. and it doesnt matter what gun you sport shoot with. i go to the range with my father often and i love to take the 12ga. sure its no good for target practice but its FUN to shoot. just shooting at the ground is fun with that thing. and i am about the most non-violent person you will meet. and i have played games like doom since i was 4 and just beat condemned 2. you don’t see me going out and killing people. video games and guns are harmless. when in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing or supervised by one.
Yeah, but can they take them apart and put them back together blindfolded?
Mmm, guns good
mastershake-
That’s not trigger discipline, their hands are just too fucking small.
I’ll bet their daddy has balls hanging from his rear bumper and a BushCheney04 sticker and/or Calvin peeing on a ford logo.
Pathetic.
I’m with reboot. As with anything, if you make it too forbidden, it just makes it all the more appealing. Kids need to be exposed to stuff they WILL have to deal with when they are older. I for one offer up my services to anyone with a 17 year old daughter. They have to learn about perverts some time.
Or they could just be airsoft guns.
Occam’s Razor anyone?
Guns are occasionally necessary tools which should be put away when they aren’t needed.
jeffapotimus -i think you know that im fucking right and just tried to make a lame excuse. not to mention you ignored everything else i said. you sir are a fucking idiot.
induringshitstorm
Everyone is ignoring the real crime here.
This picture was not tagged ‘sexy’.
And now for another installment of Faggot Theater!
My little boy asked me why wars happen today. And I had no answer. Isn’t that the most beautiful thing? He didn’t know why war happens and I couldn’t tell him. I just told him that war never solves anything and never has and guns are just tools of hate. I know this because in Pissyfart Illonnoying where I live we get CNN and MSNBC. I shot a gun once and it hurt my feelings. It’s like we as a society need to learn to solve our problems with words. Like when my little boy wants candy and I’m like “fuckoff fatwad” it gets the point home without violence. George Bush could learn a lot from me. It’s like sometimes you have to set aside your religious beliefs and just get along whether you’re republican or democrat. Guns don’t do anything good for anyone. They’re made by trolls in underwater factories near one of those brown countries and forced upon Americans. And ya we have a right to bear arms and I’ll defend that I also want people to know that I don’t agree with it. I just want a world where we don’t need guns and solve our problems with conversation and tea.
I am upset with myself now.
And now for another installment of Faggot Theater!
i could not think of better words to describe it.
It’s sad to read how hysterical people get about guns. AFAIK, the weapons depicted here are: Mossberg shotgun (probably a 500), Tek 9 , and a Colt AR-15, btw.
If a kid is taught proper respect and handling of firearms, they are MUCH less likely to misuse them in the future. If you keep guns in the house, it only makes sense to educate your children about them. Including teaching them that they are a weapon of violence. Very dangerous, yes lethal, but an important tool when used correctly. I shot my first fully automatic weapon when I was 5 years old. I had already learned muzzle control, proper stance, trigger discipline, and foremost: DO NOT AIM AT SOMETHING YOU DO NOT WISH TO DESTROY. It was an Uzi, btw… I grew up to be a geek, a firearms instructor, and a moderately upstanding citizen. I’ve never killed anyone (not that I haven’t desperately wanted to), despite having readily accessible firearms near me most of my life. Granted, my anecdotal experience cannot be taken as representative, or even common-place. The reason I bring it up is, again, to point out that familiarity with firearms is unlikely to be a causal factor in violence.
Respect firearms as a dangerous tool. Fear individuals, for they are what cause firearms to become lethal weapons in the wrong (or right) hands.
MCS poast of year. ^
This is a classic worn argument. Let’s look at Canada. They outlawed firearm ownership and instances of rape and other violent crime increased. Accidental death by gun is statistically low comparatively speaking. Homicide by gun is low – comparatively speaking. Guns are good deterrents for violent crime. If a criminal thinks they might get shot, they think twice about being a criminal. If you teach your children firearm safety and proper handling they will not shoot themselves. Parents forget to teach their children respect in general which is the broader problem at hand. Firearm ownership is a constitutional right for a reason. Why don’t we consider banning cars, and knives?
Support gun control, learn the Weaver Stance
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weaver_stance
Thread is tl;dr, I just wanted to say/ask: Who the fuck puts a scope like that on a fucking M4?
I think it’s good that these girls are going to grow up prepared for the day the government turns against its people; the twinkies run out; or aliens/zombies/Canadians/terrorists invade.
Which scenario is more likely is open to debate.
Shopped?
Yep. They shopped at Wal-Mart.
@itsanospreyyoufool
What the fuck? We’re allowed to have fire arms here in Canada. We need them to keep the polar bears and Inuit out of the trash cans.
Seriously, don’t believe everything Michael Moore says (I like the guy, but he exaggerates too much). We do control some types of fire arms, and we recently enacted a controversial gun registry. But if I wanted a hunting rifle, I could go get one right now. No waiting list.
Even if I wanted a Handgun, there are lots of them on the street here. Stay out of the Jane/Finch area of Toronto.
@Alec
My bad man, I meant handgun and firearm came out.
Still, it’s hard to ward off a violent criminal with a .30-06… a bit cumbersome. You shouldn’t have to get your handgun off the street.
I’ve read a couple of Moore’s books. He does make excellent points occasionally, then blows his credibility all to hell by exaggerating and twisting the truth to suit his argument. Last I heard, he wanted to ban handguns. Has he changed his position? What’d I miss?
Again, apologies for wrong word choice in the last post… I had a misfire.
masterbater4071-
Go back and read my post. You were right about what, exactly? That you like to shoot guns? Uh, ok… No argument.
The only thing I may disagree with is that ‘it is clear that the parents in this case showed the importance of trigger discipline.’ You can’t tell that from one picture, you’re just talking out your ass. (If they had been holding the guns properly by the grip with their trigger fingers in safe position, that might be another thing…)
And what ‘excuse’ was I making, exactly? Are you perhaps a little bit retarded?
You see, I wasn’t disputing anything you said, I was being judgmental. And I still am. Here, watch, I’ll do it again: You are a limp-dick. See?
For the record, I believe in the second amendment and all that, I’m just disgusted by gun-fetishist rednecks. You know, people like you.
You guys are awesome. I like being in a forum with you. ^_^ Have a great weekend.
:3
@Alec
It’s actually pretty hard to get a rifle even for hunting. If you buy a shotgun they practically want a DNA sample now. Handsguns are pretty much outlawed though you can get one if you really want it. But you have to keep it in your house and when you go to the shooting range it has to be locked in a box in your trunk and they give you a route to drive to your preferred range and a time limit on your commute. Not too many people I know have guns.
Ya you could go to Jane and Finch but you’re more likely to get arrested than find someone to buy a gun from. That area is full of pussies and hobos. They call it a ghetto and wah wah wah. If someone from a real ghetto saw it they’d think it was paradise and probably be pretty pissed at people who think they’re so bad off living there…for free.
Many of you guys bring up excellent points regarding gun safety, exposing and education kids about the safety and danger of gun use.
I grew up in a hunting part of the country; we don’t have balls on the back of our trucks, we don’t wear cowboy hats, we don’t have confederate flags hanging from our front porch, and we don’t chew tobacco. My parents drive a Honda Civic and a CRV.
Many of you bring up the argument that as long as kids are educated about gun safety, they’ll be able to handle a gun in a responsible matter. True for 99% of gun users. However, there ARE parents out there who choose to expose their kids to guns with serious disregard for safety, control, and mechanisms. These kids may be a product of either an educated or an uneducated household, we don’t know.
Though I’m willing to bet the latter.