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    Troik

    I understand the first four ones but the last one is kinda flawed, you can have your rights been taken away (e.g. free speech in china) even if you never infringed on another persons rights in your life.

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    Anon

    By that logic “Don’t like sex? Don’t have it.” is also flawed because someone can rape you.

    Think this is fine if you apply it to just the US.

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    Twosixteen

    Rape isn’t sex.

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    Korinthian

    I don’t think rape is rape without sex.

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    asymon

    Don’t like killing people? Don’t kill.

    But uf someone else like killing, don’t takwe away his righs!

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    Adrian

    Your argument is flawed!

    Don’t like being killed? Don’t kill.
    Killing is not a human right. If you’re only vaguely religious you know that there’s only one that’s got the “right” to take life.
    Whatever your alignment, common decency and mutual respect is a pre-requisite of a functioning community.

    Or you can believe in the anarchy of life and death, but don’t complain if someone else interfers with your life.

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    Korinthian

    Playing devil’s advocate here.

    Some would consider abortion killing. And certain extreme (and rare) cases of it would probably qualify.

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    figosound

    Saying abortion means nothing: that practice depends on time, conditions, will and one’s own personal moral: we have to stop thinking at abortion as one concept. Let people do their choices and suffer the results.

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    Korinthian

    That’s nice.

    Personally I prefer oversight and for certain restrictions (late term where the mother’s life is not in danger, for instance) to be put in place.

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    asymon

    But smoking weed is human right, amirite?
    And having sex? Oh, and abortion?

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    Fallacy

    I think the point is that they SHOULD be rights. Doing something that only effects you and no one else, gay marriage should be legal but because some assholes in this country can’t get over the “ick” factor, it’s not. Pretty stupid country sometimes…

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    Korinthian

    I agree in spirit. Not sure I’d phrase it like this, though.

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    bstaples

    Since when, exactly, is doing a drugs a “right”?

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    Hum4nAfterAll

    I know right? o_O

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    Korinthian

    Try telling smokers they can’t smoke and see what happens.

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    The Matrix: Rebooted

    Because we have the right to do whatever we want to ourselves as long is it doesn’t harm others.

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    asymon

    yeah, like abortion!

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    PatientZed

    Better stop getting haircuts if you value every bundle of cells that much, then.

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    Korinthian

    Hair’s not alive unless you’re a gorgon.

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    Alec Dalek

    And then neither are fetuses.

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    Korinthian

    That was a dumb comment, Alec.

    There’s a difference between living and dead tissue. Fetuses fit in the former category.

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    Alec Dalek

    Well, you are an expert on dumb comments.

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    Nurgen

    Better stop scratching if you value every bundle of cells that much then. Better?

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