LT, lighten up. Your attitude is in line with that of RIAA and the major recording labels: sampling is only allowed if it profits us/suits our taste/etc. Remember Weird Al’s “Amish Paradise?” Coolio didn’t consider it “good enough.”
Vanilla Ice made bad music, however, the last time I turned on the radio I was aurally raped by many equally bad artists. Soulja Boy… Vanilla Ice… sounds like names from the same “retard name generator” to me. Vanilla Ice was definitely not alone in making bad music.
One thing to note is this – he did get rich and fuck a lot of hot women by making his bad music. I would do much worse than making bad music to get the same pay and chicks. Cut the man some slack.
Ripping off Queen / Bowie… its rap music. There is not a thimble full of musical creativity in rap music. Sampling is simply expected.
I cannot think of a single rapper that writes good music. The lyrics and rap, sure (it’s debatable, but I will give due credit, it is original and can be good). But the backing music? It will never stand on it’s own; it’s too simple or is a sample-loop. The backing music is just not a priority in Rap.
I consider this sad, but still a welcome blessing. Thanks to Rap music not being able to stand without the vocals, I will never be tortured by this crap Rap music in elevators and waiting rooms.
He lives in my area of south Florida, and the local radio station hosts their annual Christmas party at his house, well, mansion, I guess. He performs, some local bands perform, many drunken shenanigans ensue.
I have to admit, I think it’s pretty damn cool of anybody to open their house up to a few hundred strangers, but for a quasi-celebrity to do it, well, I do give him the tiniest bit of respect.
ack, when you talk about musical creativity in ‘the rap music’ you sound like my grandma.
Listen to almost anything produced by Dan Nakamura (Automator). There are dozens, maybe hundreds of other examples.
Now, most rap is crap, I’ll agree. But using samples in music doesn’t make it any less creative or musical. There’s plenty of music ‘made from scratch’ that is crap, too.
‘Mixed media’ art is a good analogue. Even if you’re just cutting and gluing, it can be done creatively, or it can suck.
Say what you will Tiki, but you’re wrong about it. Ice ripped the bassline straight from Queen/Bowie’s “Under Pressure”, added one A note in every other pause, and made millions. He also stole the idea for the main focus of the song from a national black fraternity without permission or credit to either Queen/Bowie or Alpha Pi Alpha.
True, he is a terrible musician as well; this doesn’t merit mentioning, as just about every hip-hop artist to follow him were and are terrible musicians as well. What is worth mentioning is that the “Iceman” is a biter and a fraud. As an actual musician I’m offended that any part of this poser’s music lives on to this day.
it is crap but i’ve heard worst rapping on these days from people who can’t even talk. i hate the retarded nigger fad the music in the US is going through. i didn’t know that he raps on Boom, it’s fukken awesome.
Yeah, vanilla ice is the only singer to use someone else’s shit…what about cant touch this and super freak? Oh, that’s right…nobody cares about blacks.
There are a gazillion musicians from every genre, who have rehashed, remixed, remade or otherwise butchered older songs. It’s called art. Sometimes it sucks, sometimes it’s great. I don’t understand why people are so quick to denigrate musicians to try to recycle old ideas in new ways. It happens all the time, and in more ways, and by more musicians than a lot of people seem to realize…
Hey ack, have you ever listened to the Wu Tang Clan?
Excellent lyrics, and some of their tracks are remixed as instrumentals. Most of the Clan has serious talent. Even if you don’t like some of them, there’s so many different styles being represented that you’re bound to enjoy some of it. I think you suffer from being exposed to too much pop music, and not enough urban poetry.
There’s only a few Wu-Tang hits I’ve liked, but damn do they have a good taste in movies: 36th Chamber and 8 Diagram Pole Fighter have got to be the two best action movies ever made.
“All right stop
collaborate and listen
Ice is back with my brand new invention
Something
grabs a hold of me tightly
Flow like a harpoon daily and nightly
Will it ever stop
yo
I don’t know
Turn off the lights
and I’ll glow
To the extreme
I rock a mic like a vandal
Light up a stage
and wax a chump like a candle
Dance
go rush to the speaker that booms
I’m killing your brain like a poisonous mushroom
Deadly
when I play a dope melody
Anything less than the best is a felony
Love it or leave it
you better gain weight
You better hit bull’s eye the kid don’t play
If there was a problem
yo I’ll solve it
Check out the hook
while my DJ revolves it
Ice, ice, baby
vanilla
Ice, ice, baby
Now that the party is jumping
With the bass kicked in
and the vegas are pumpin’
Quick to the point-to the point no faking
I’m cooking MC’s like a pound of bacon
Burning ’em
if you ain’t quick and nimble
I go crazy when I hear a cymbal
And a hi-hat
with a souped up tempo
I’m on a roll
it’s time to go solo
Rollin’ in my 5.0
With my rag-top down so my hair can blow
The girlies on standby
waving just to say hi
Did you stop?
no, I just drove by
Kept on
pursuing to the next stop
I bust a left
and I’m heading to the next block
The block was dead
Yo so I continued
to A1A
Beachfront Avenue
Girls were hot wearing less than bikinis
Rockman lovers driving Lamborghinis
Jealous
’cause I’m out getting mine
Shay with a guage and Vanilla with a nine
Reading
for the chumps on the wall
The chumps acting ill
’cause they’re so full of eight balls
Gunshots
rang out like a bell
I grabbed my nine
all I heard were shells
Falling
on the concrete real fast
Jumped in my car
slammed on the gas
Bumper to bumper the avenue’s packed
I’m trying to get away before the jackers jack
Police on the scene
you know what I mean
They passed me up confronted all the dope fiends
If there was a problem
yo I’ll solve it
Check out the hook
while my DJ revolves it
Ice, ice, baby
vanilla
Ice, ice, baby
Take heed
’cause I’m a lyrical poet
Miami’s on the scene
just in case you didn’t know it
My town
that created all the bass sound
Enough to shake and kick holes in the ground
‘Cause my style’s like a chemical spill
Feasible rhymes that you envision and feel
Conducted and formed
It’s a hell of a concept
We make it hype
and you want to step with this
Shay plays on the fade
slice like a ninja
Cut like a razor blade so fast other DJs say damn
If my rhyme was a drug
I’d sell it by the gram
Keep my composure when it’s time to get loose
Magnetized by the mic while I kick my juice
If there was a problem
yo I’ll solve it
Check out the hook
while my DJ revolves it
Biter. Ripping Queen/Bowie’s “Under Pressure” bassline for your piece of shit song. I hope Hell is especially hot just for you, Ice.
My new desktop background! That stare is intense.
LT, lighten up. Your attitude is in line with that of RIAA and the major recording labels: sampling is only allowed if it profits us/suits our taste/etc. Remember Weird Al’s “Amish Paradise?” Coolio didn’t consider it “good enough.”
My 2 cents…
Vanilla Ice made bad music, however, the last time I turned on the radio I was aurally raped by many equally bad artists. Soulja Boy… Vanilla Ice… sounds like names from the same “retard name generator” to me. Vanilla Ice was definitely not alone in making bad music.
One thing to note is this – he did get rich and fuck a lot of hot women by making his bad music. I would do much worse than making bad music to get the same pay and chicks. Cut the man some slack.
Ripping off Queen / Bowie… its rap music. There is not a thimble full of musical creativity in rap music. Sampling is simply expected.
I cannot think of a single rapper that writes good music. The lyrics and rap, sure (it’s debatable, but I will give due credit, it is original and can be good). But the backing music? It will never stand on it’s own; it’s too simple or is a sample-loop. The backing music is just not a priority in Rap.
I consider this sad, but still a welcome blessing. Thanks to Rap music not being able to stand without the vocals, I will never be tortured by this crap Rap music in elevators and waiting rooms.
Later.
I’m nearly 100% certain that there were royalty payments made for that bassline, so there shouldn’t be any serious talk about ripping off or stealing.
Word to your mutha.
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My favorite Vanilla Ice story is Suge Knight hanging him off a balcony until he signed away whatever rights he had.
I like that song he did with The Bloodhound Gang.
Actually there were no royalty payments.
Ice’s claim was that he didn’t steal the baseline, because the original goes:
“bah-bah bum bah-bah banum”
And his goes:
“bah-bah bum bah-bah banum tsss”
With the little drum snare at the end, making it different, so he piggybacked the idea without full on stealing it.
One of the few things I’d learned from VH1
Mista Rob Van Winkle…
Actually I kinda like “BOOM”, the song he did with the Bloodhound Gang, if only for the awesome lyrics
…I’m not Quasimodo, but I still got a hunch
And like the Jim Jones Gang I’ll take you out with one Punch…
He lives in my area of south Florida, and the local radio station hosts their annual Christmas party at his house, well, mansion, I guess. He performs, some local bands perform, many drunken shenanigans ensue.
I have to admit, I think it’s pretty damn cool of anybody to open their house up to a few hundred strangers, but for a quasi-celebrity to do it, well, I do give him the tiniest bit of respect.
ack, when you talk about musical creativity in ‘the rap music’ you sound like my grandma.
Listen to almost anything produced by Dan Nakamura (Automator). There are dozens, maybe hundreds of other examples.
Now, most rap is crap, I’ll agree. But using samples in music doesn’t make it any less creative or musical. There’s plenty of music ‘made from scratch’ that is crap, too.
‘Mixed media’ art is a good analogue. Even if you’re just cutting and gluing, it can be done creatively, or it can suck.
and ‘Cool as Ice’ is one of the best movies ever made. Yep yep!
And through all that no one’s noticed he looks like there’s a magic marker up his ass
@Kaze,
You are correct. I saw that VH1 thing too. He’s a douche.
A magic marker? So that’s why his hair looked like that…
Say what you will Tiki, but you’re wrong about it. Ice ripped the bassline straight from Queen/Bowie’s “Under Pressure”, added one A note in every other pause, and made millions. He also stole the idea for the main focus of the song from a national black fraternity without permission or credit to either Queen/Bowie or Alpha Pi Alpha.
True, he is a terrible musician as well; this doesn’t merit mentioning, as just about every hip-hop artist to follow him were and are terrible musicians as well. What is worth mentioning is that the “Iceman” is a biter and a fraud. As an actual musician I’m offended that any part of this poser’s music lives on to this day.
I don’t care about his Queen music fiasco, i just want to know why he hasn’t been shot yet?
Naw, man, only real gangsta’s get shot… Vanilla ice would be lucky to experience a drive-by ice cream cake to the face…
it is crap but i’ve heard worst rapping on these days from people who can’t even talk. i hate the retarded nigger fad the music in the US is going through. i didn’t know that he raps on Boom, it’s fukken awesome.
Yeah, vanilla ice is the only singer to use someone else’s shit…what about cant touch this and super freak? Oh, that’s right…nobody cares about blacks.
There are a gazillion musicians from every genre, who have rehashed, remixed, remade or otherwise butchered older songs. It’s called art. Sometimes it sucks, sometimes it’s great. I don’t understand why people are so quick to denigrate musicians to try to recycle old ideas in new ways. It happens all the time, and in more ways, and by more musicians than a lot of people seem to realize…
It’s called making things better. or what not.
You can’t put something out there and expect nobody to use that or edit it in some way.
Hey ack, have you ever listened to the Wu Tang Clan?
Excellent lyrics, and some of their tracks are remixed as instrumentals. Most of the Clan has serious talent. Even if you don’t like some of them, there’s so many different styles being represented that you’re bound to enjoy some of it. I think you suffer from being exposed to too much pop music, and not enough urban poetry.
There’s only a few Wu-Tang hits I’ve liked, but damn do they have a good taste in movies: 36th Chamber and 8 Diagram Pole Fighter have got to be the two best action movies ever made.
“All right stop
collaborate and listen
Ice is back with my brand new invention
Something
grabs a hold of me tightly
Flow like a harpoon daily and nightly
Will it ever stop
yo
I don’t know
Turn off the lights
and I’ll glow
To the extreme
I rock a mic like a vandal
Light up a stage
and wax a chump like a candle
Dance
go rush to the speaker that booms
I’m killing your brain like a poisonous mushroom
Deadly
when I play a dope melody
Anything less than the best is a felony
Love it or leave it
you better gain weight
You better hit bull’s eye the kid don’t play
If there was a problem
yo I’ll solve it
Check out the hook
while my DJ revolves it
Ice, ice, baby
vanilla
Ice, ice, baby
Now that the party is jumping
With the bass kicked in
and the vegas are pumpin’
Quick to the point-to the point no faking
I’m cooking MC’s like a pound of bacon
Burning ’em
if you ain’t quick and nimble
I go crazy when I hear a cymbal
And a hi-hat
with a souped up tempo
I’m on a roll
it’s time to go solo
Rollin’ in my 5.0
With my rag-top down so my hair can blow
The girlies on standby
waving just to say hi
Did you stop?
no, I just drove by
Kept on
pursuing to the next stop
I bust a left
and I’m heading to the next block
The block was dead
Yo so I continued
to A1A
Beachfront Avenue
Girls were hot wearing less than bikinis
Rockman lovers driving Lamborghinis
Jealous
’cause I’m out getting mine
Shay with a guage and Vanilla with a nine
Reading
for the chumps on the wall
The chumps acting ill
’cause they’re so full of eight balls
Gunshots
rang out like a bell
I grabbed my nine
all I heard were shells
Falling
on the concrete real fast
Jumped in my car
slammed on the gas
Bumper to bumper the avenue’s packed
I’m trying to get away before the jackers jack
Police on the scene
you know what I mean
They passed me up confronted all the dope fiends
If there was a problem
yo I’ll solve it
Check out the hook
while my DJ revolves it
Ice, ice, baby
vanilla
Ice, ice, baby
Take heed
’cause I’m a lyrical poet
Miami’s on the scene
just in case you didn’t know it
My town
that created all the bass sound
Enough to shake and kick holes in the ground
‘Cause my style’s like a chemical spill
Feasible rhymes that you envision and feel
Conducted and formed
It’s a hell of a concept
We make it hype
and you want to step with this
Shay plays on the fade
slice like a ninja
Cut like a razor blade so fast other DJs say damn
If my rhyme was a drug
I’d sell it by the gram
Keep my composure when it’s time to get loose
Magnetized by the mic while I kick my juice
If there was a problem
yo I’ll solve it
Check out the hook
while my DJ revolves it
Ice, ice, baby
vanilla
Ice, ice, baby
too cold, too cold… “
“Well now. You all seemed so brave before. What happened Eh?”
Gets me every time…
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