i made this particular image, but i was inspired by an image i saw on a youtube video. a screencap was not very good quality, so i went with the general idea and made my own
Doesn’t have to be. There are many famous and old paintings that depicted Satan with an upward pentagram. In some cases the star just represents the meaning of the name Lucifer.
I guess I just remember the star with a goat’s head superimposed over it, where the horns point upward. I’m pretty sure Wiccans have one point upward, though.
Yeah, the downward pentagram with a goat’s head in it is common. And yes Wiccans use the upward pentagram. I haven’t seen any one group agree with another on what it means or how it’s allowed to be used though. But remember that a lot of tales surrounding Lucifer seem strangely positive, some even resonate with what Wiccans believe. Lucifer means “morning star”, that sounds pretty friendly to me. Or “nature is Satan’s church.”
Maybe. I know but pleasant names for angels doesn’t seem plausible to me. Remember what that one guy in The Prophecy said, “Did you ever notice how in the Bible, when ever God needed to punish someone, or make an example, or whenever God needed a killing, he sent an angel?” And I know it’s from a film but he had a point and it’s the first thing that came to mind. If I were Lucifer or someone that believes in him, I would have at least changed my/his name afterwards. You know like an angry ex wife.
Lucifer was the translation of a title or name of a king of a neighboring country. Some translator decided that turning it into the name of the devil made for a better story, and so, Lucifer became Satan.
Jesus also referred to himself as the Morning Star, which means that Jesus was Lucifer.
No kidding. Symbols can have an interesting history, this particular one does. This is like if an archaeologist speculated about the meaning of hieroglyphs and then some dude said, it’s just symbols, they mean what you want them to mean.
Your interpretation of a star is as much of a translation as that of hieroglyphs. Hieroglyphs are made up, all languages are, so is the pentagram. “Die” means dying in English, in German it’s a definite article. But that’s not what my analogy was supposed to imply. Hieroglyphs are part of the key to understanding certain history, they’re relevant despite being made up. The true origin of the pentagram and its different interpretations were part of history just the same.
That’s somewhat my point. You can write “Die” to an English man and to a German guy and the same symbols will mean different things and will cause different effects. Just like that star to me is just a geometric object and to a conspiracy theorist it means “omg-alien-Iluminati-devil-worshipers”. Symbols are not a part of history, people that give meaning to them are a part of history.
Yeah symbols are part of history. The swastika was used for different motives, but most people associate the swastika with WWII. This doesn’t mean the symbol becomes meaningful or that one interpretation becomes true, it means its interpretations at one time are known and can matter today. I’m not a Nazi but when I see a black swastika on a red and white background I associate it with Hitler.
To say that symbols aren’t part of history is to say language isn’t part of history. You obviously just have a problem with giving symbols meaningless subjective meanings, that does not take away their visual relevance throughout history.
he wants you
The Devil’s star is upside-down, I think.
You don’t want to anger Satan, do you?
Doesn’t have to be. There are many famous and old paintings that depicted Satan with an upward pentagram. In some cases the star just represents the meaning of the name Lucifer.
I guess I just remember the star with a goat’s head superimposed over it, where the horns point upward. I’m pretty sure Wiccans have one point upward, though.
Yeah, the downward pentagram with a goat’s head in it is common. And yes Wiccans use the upward pentagram. I haven’t seen any one group agree with another on what it means or how it’s allowed to be used though. But remember that a lot of tales surrounding Lucifer seem strangely positive, some even resonate with what Wiccans believe. Lucifer means “morning star”, that sounds pretty friendly to me. Or “nature is Satan’s church.”
Yeah well, he was an angel to start with, and I guess angels get pleasant names, especially the most beautiful and powerful ones.
I bet a lot of the stuff connecting Satan with nature are remnants of the Catholic church trying to demonize pagan religions.
Maybe. I know but pleasant names for angels doesn’t seem plausible to me. Remember what that one guy in The Prophecy said, “Did you ever notice how in the Bible, when ever God needed to punish someone, or make an example, or whenever God needed a killing, he sent an angel?” And I know it’s from a film but he had a point and it’s the first thing that came to mind. If I were Lucifer or someone that believes in him, I would have at least changed my/his name afterwards. You know like an angry ex wife.
Lucifer was the translation of a title or name of a king of a neighboring country. Some translator decided that turning it into the name of the devil made for a better story, and so, Lucifer became Satan.
Jesus also referred to himself as the Morning Star, which means that Jesus was Lucifer.
this is not a depiction of satan, it is a depiction of baphomet, which is completely different.
the star on baphomet’s forehead is two points down.
It’s just symbols, they mean what you want them to mean.
No kidding. Symbols can have an interesting history, this particular one does. This is like if an archaeologist speculated about the meaning of hieroglyphs and then some dude said, it’s just symbols, they mean what you want them to mean.
hieroglyphs are a language, you can translate them – a star is just a symbol, it can stand for good or evil or anything else.
Your interpretation of a star is as much of a translation as that of hieroglyphs. Hieroglyphs are made up, all languages are, so is the pentagram. “Die” means dying in English, in German it’s a definite article. But that’s not what my analogy was supposed to imply. Hieroglyphs are part of the key to understanding certain history, they’re relevant despite being made up. The true origin of the pentagram and its different interpretations were part of history just the same.
That’s somewhat my point. You can write “Die” to an English man and to a German guy and the same symbols will mean different things and will cause different effects. Just like that star to me is just a geometric object and to a conspiracy theorist it means “omg-alien-Iluminati-devil-worshipers”. Symbols are not a part of history, people that give meaning to them are a part of history.
Yeah symbols are part of history. The swastika was used for different motives, but most people associate the swastika with WWII. This doesn’t mean the symbol becomes meaningful or that one interpretation becomes true, it means its interpretations at one time are known and can matter today. I’m not a Nazi but when I see a black swastika on a red and white background I associate it with Hitler.
To say that symbols aren’t part of history is to say language isn’t part of history. You obviously just have a problem with giving symbols meaningless subjective meanings, that does not take away their visual relevance throughout history.
Wow, did I just say meaningless subjective meanings. How about, meaningless subjective interpretations. Yes that will do.
Whenever I see someone sporting an upside down cross, I laugh.