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Pshht… Been there, done that.
Same and decided it’s lame.
All the cool kids are worshiping Thor.
Take your primitive fairy tales and shove them up your ass.
trollers is gonna troll.
I’m gonna give it a fair shot. If I’m gonna do nothin, I might as well be doin something.
ALSO been there, done that – raised in a protestant environment.
Waste of 19 years worth of Sunday mornings.
Fuck religion, honestly.
HEY… respect… god hears you, and you just hurt his feelings…
if he hurt “god’s” feelings, then “god” is not unchanging, and therefore, not “god”.
to qualify to be God, the being has to be unchanging, limitless and eternal. if we, as God’s creation, can do anything to hurt God, then it is not God, and we don’t have to worry about it.
I would be banging my keyboard with my head right now if I was a Jesusfreak. well done sir!
God also exists, and does not exist, at the same time, with no contradictions.
IF WE CAN HURT IT WE CAN KILL IT
CHHAAAAAAARGE
It’s the arrogance of Christians that gets to me the most. They assume that, if we don’t believe as they do, that it’s because we’ve never heard their beliefs. They assume that, despite the couple THOUSAND different Christian sects, they and they ALONE know the real truth. How are we to take them seriously if they can’t agree on what their god wants? Reality check. Lumped all together there are about 2 billion Christians in the world. There are some 6.6 billion people in the world. You’re outnumbered. Get over it.
HEY… respect! The god of christianity is the one and only one true god, becaaaaaaause (drum roll): HE says so. That makes your argument invalid, and you, stupid. So the god of christianity and jesus don’t love you, and thus, you’re going to hell.
Have a nice trip FUCKER.
I need 660 moar thumbs down to go to hell…
… And another who believes in a different god who claims to be the only god has equally as valid of an argument.
And reality check, v0id, the “Christian” God is the same God as the Jewish one and the Islamic one. He’s not a singular, special God only to one religion; Jesus was not His only contribution to mankind.
Since I am not that smart, what I understood from what you said, is that there is one god, and there are many religions around him? I mean, jewish, christians, muslims believe in the same god (yahweh or god or allah), but they believe in different ways?
Yes, but that only holds for the Judeo-Christian religions. (Islam, Christianity, and Judaism). There are other deities in other religions that are not western/middle eastern based. Should one believe that they are the true gods, their arguments for their gods being as legitimate and the Christian one are equally as valid.
And Christianity and Judaism start with a polytheistic mind set. Linguistically, “thou shalt have no other gods before me” implies that there were other gods that could have come before Yahweh in the first place, and merely requests that other deities take a back seat. Indeed, when the ancient Israelites conquered other nations, they believed that Al Shaddai was stronger than the god of those conquered. The ancient Jews just took the unique mind set, after they were conquered, that instead of their God loosing to their new rulers, God was punishing and angry at them (ergo still only acknowledging God as the strongest god, but merely believing they’d fallen out of His favor).
So which god did I make angry and got all those negative votes?
You’re having too much fun…please to continue.
The Christian resolution to find the world ugly and bad has made the world ugly and bad
Religion is nothing but the weakness of the human mind. It discourages learning, has no rewards for intellect, the more blind your faith the better Christian you are. It sickens me.
Been there as a minister. Couldn’t hack the guilt trips. Quit. Now I try to persuade people otherwise.
Depends, what is God’s stance on reposts?
Well, I hate them, so if I am created by him in his own image, then I guess that he hates them too. BUT, tiki apparently loves reposts, so If he is created in god’s own image, then god would like reposts. Thus, God likes and hates reposts.
It’s the arrogance of Atheists that gets to me the most. They assume that, if they don’t believe as we do, that it’s because we’ve never heard their beliefs. They assume that, despite the massive amount of proof of the Bible’s accuracy, they and they ALONE know the real truth. How are we to take them seriously if they can’t actually look into the thing they blindly trash? Reality check. Lumped all together there are about 2 billion Christians in the world. There are some 6.6 billion people in the world. It started with only 12 dudes… I think it’s catching on.
2 billion weak and ignorant suckers, it catches on like a virus because people are insecure and need to justify their own life.
You can accept that god exists, live a mediocre life and hope to go to heaven, or accept the fact that you cannot possibly know the truth and live your life to the fullest.
(I sometimes really love myself. This is one of them…)
What makes you assume that he isn’t living life to their fullest? That’s rather presumptuous don’t you think? I mean i don’t assume atheists are atheist because they have some vendetta against god for an unanswered prayer or because they were raped by priests. I believe in a god and contrary to the popular misconception I’m not living in mortal fear of my soul being damned. This is why atheists get stereotyped as arrogant or smug. Generalizations like that are only going to make things worse for all of us and impede mutual respect and understandings.
1. I am not atheist, I just can’t possibly know if god exists. I shall find out when I die.
2. I shouldn’t have written “You can accept that god exists”. What I should have written is something about accepting whichever religion as the only true religion, while not respecting the beliefs of others and thus living a life full of obstacles (eg. Don’t eat pork, Don’t fuck on sunday, etc etc).
3. as I said earlier, I don’t know if god exists, and I actually don’t care at the moment. I do know though that religions are a human and not a godly creation (unless proved otherwise), so I cannot accept the god of any religion.
4. What is the Co-intel game? Can I play it at the same time with The Game?
in 2. where “thus”, put also. 😀
Oh BTW lovely game of Co-intel you are playing here.
There was allot of Nazis too… dose not mean it was a good idea. What get me the most about ALL religions.. is that they use it as a shield from public opposition under religious freedom when it facilitates their prejudices against others. The question I have for you is… what if there is a god…. and your following the wrong one?
I loled.
Also; what if your god exist(christianity), and you follow the wrong branch of religion?
Then it would mean they were following the wrong branch of religion and may or may not be punished for it.
I do like you and not like you in the same time.
The accuracy of the Bible?
Dude.
It claims that insects have four legs.
Nigger what?
“massive amount of proof of the Bible’s accuracy”
Bitch please.
I don’t give a fuck what you believe there, kiddo. Just don’t try to push your beliefs on me, and we’ll be all good.
You forget how many of the ancestors of the 2 billion people currently calling themselves Christians were FORCED into Christianity with threats of eternal damnation, torture, or even death if they didn’t. That is why Christianity is so popular these days. However, I think the numbers are declining in this age of information. It’s harder to keep people ignorant of all the other beliefs out there, and Christians are no longer allowed to torture and kill people for not being Christian. As for the accuracy of the bible, that is definitely up for debate. What happened to Jesus between the ages of just after birth-30 years old? What was his life like? Those are the major formative years. Also, the phrase “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live” is different in different versions. The Jerusalem Bible uses the word sorceress, but in the ancient texts is written a word that actually meant “poisoner”. I don’t believe that it is an isolated incident, and that one mis-interpretation of the old texts was used as an excuse for many murders in the name of “God”. It stands to reason that there are others.
Raised as a Catholic in Boston, I’m now more inclined to worship the flying spaghetti monster than some “God” up high.
I respect peoples beliefs, and whom they chose to worship. If you think I’m going to hell, so be it. But it’s hard to go someplace when you don’t believe it exists in the first place…
I’d rather worship the ocean and a tree then the Christian God.
Simply… piss off.
raised a unitarian, became an ordained christian minister and am now a hindu. it’s fine if you want to believe it, but don’t try to convert me.
nOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
I’ve been meaning to look into Hinduism. Any books on the subject or “Holy” texts you would recommend? Someone once told me to check out the Vedas. Which book would be best to start with to get a basic understanding of the faith?
The five Vedas are a good start, but also check out the Bhagavad Gita. It’s the theology in a nutshell, plus it covers some Krishna stuff.
I’m not familiar with this Jesus theory. Because I am open to outside-the-box thinking, I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and evaluate your theory based on it’s merits, rather than dismissing it out of hand. Can you send me an example where Jesus accurately predicts known experimental results? Also, what experiments would you posit to prove or disprove Jesus? I eagerly await your reply.
Can you send me an example where Jesus accurately predicts known experimental results?
I could say one example was him predicting he would die and then come back to life; and he did that. But that’s only believable if the stories of those times are believable. One argument is, if he really was dead, wouldn’t non-believers have simply produced his dead body to the early followers? “Hey he didn’t rise from the dead, here’s his body.” Of course some would argue that there was no body to begin with – the person of Jesus was just made up a few centuries later; historians have debated about this, and a bunch of other arguments for/against what really happened. I don’t have definite proof of what happened; I don’t think anyone does.
Experiments to prove/disprove Jesus:
As far as if he actually existed, scholars quote other texts written after Jesus which make reference to him, as evidence that he was a real person. Here’s some non-Bible references:
www.spotlightministries.org.uk/historicaldeityofjesus.htm
www.bible.ca/H-trinity.htm
Though of course then some argue whether those references are accurate, whether those writers were mislead, etc
As far as if he claimed to be God, or was God, or if he came back to life, or performed miracles; those same early writers make reference to Jesus as being God or a son of God or a diety. Of course an argument could be – those early writers were just repeating what the early believers had written and made up, and just attributing deity to Jesus afterwards…
I don’t think it can be known for sure that the biblical accounts are accurate, since none of us were there. It’s a matter of deciding if they are reliable enough – if the historical evidence points to the Bible being valid, or not. There are debates available – one I watched was Was Jesus a Myth? Parts 1 & 2 on youtube.
Basically where I am at is, I’m choosing to believe one way based on the limited evidence I have seen so far. I haven’t come across anything where I can convince anyone (or myself) with certainty.
(I could have PM’d you but I don’t know how)
no thanks, I’m in a relationship now, and Cthulhu is one spiteful bastidge.
Cthulhu will be pissed if it finds out I’m stepping out with another belief system behind its back, especially one based on vigin birth, wine and crackers and a zombie jebus…
so, um no thanks.
now piss off you troll
I thought same sex relationships were bad.
They are. Jesus freaks say that jesus (who preached love) said so.
*unconditional love…
Don’t speak for me. That is blasphemous. Jesus goes down south on both sexes.
Bisexual? Coolness.
sorry J.C.
I can tell that you mean it so it’s cool. c:
Oh thank you Jeeeeeezus! For a moment I thought I’m going straight to hell
>I thought same sex relationships were bad.
I favor gay relationships …if both chicks are hot
The “and if they let me watch” is implied.
never thought I would see the day riverdaledragon would be quoted….
Haha! Awesome. Nobody does no sequitur comedy like the Christians!
s/no sequitur/non sequitur/
I noticed it did not specify which god….. so Horus? Maybe Zeus? I like FSM too.
I would think we believe what we are told, not what we have experienced. Or perhaps, because of what we were told, we could bend our experiences to “relate” what we our told. The kids born into uber christian families tell me to give myself to (their) God. The kids born into uber muslim families tell me there is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is his prophet. The kids who are born into non-religious families tell me to get a job, start a family and enjoy life. I like that, and it’s exactly what I’m doing. BTW this weekend there is a new program, on discovery I believe, from Steven Hawking. That guy right there is a smart MoFo, and I am far more inclined to listen to his ideas about the how and why of life. A couple dudes showed up at my door the other day, wanting me to read their “holy” book and give it some thought. I told them I would if they in turn watched a program on how life came out with me. They declined. Always wanting to share their ideas, never allowing to listen to someone else’s.
comment.
ALL HAIL ODIN!!!!
More of a Tyrsmann myself. But yes, raise a horn high!
DEATH TO THE JEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m a militant agnostic. I don’t know if there’s a god, AND NEITHER DO YOU!
well played,
a most excellent reply
So then why worship one -.-
No gods or kings, only man.
Jeffy’s the man on this :
“Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong.”
-Thomas Jefferson (Notes on Virginia, 1782)
And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerve in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.
-Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823
The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were. . . . the general principles of Christianity. . . . I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God; and that those principles of liberty are as unalterable as human nature.
-John Adams, Letter to Thomas Jefferson, June 28, 1813
So, wait, Jesus died for our sins, but then came back to life? Does that mean he took away our “get out of hell free” card? What a cunt.
Jesus had a bad weekend for your sins.
Yeah, SORRY about that suffering thing. I was just kidding, but they didn’t put that part in…
So, all of mankind’s sins can be absolved if a demi-god is basically lynched? Man, I never managed to grasp the internal logic of this concept. Step 1: Deicide. Step 2: ?????. Step 3: Absolution.
Eh not too bad considering the reformation basically ushered independent thinking and freedom of speech, which we use today to make fun of Jesus freaks. Can’t say religion hasn’t done ANYTHING worthwhile… even if the point was to do exactly the opposite.
Attention whore comment.
Protip: If you can’t be killed because your an immortal deity, then getting nailed to stick isn’t a “sacrifice.”
*you’re
it was better with the wrong “your”
*-an 😛
I already have a great relationship with reality.
Marx did say the religion was the opiate of the masses.This I`ve quoted on many occasions.But now I am more inclined to equate it with crack.
Jesus loves you, guys
I love everyone, it’s really true.
Murderers, rapists- pedos too!
And we love you too Jesus!
Fuck all y’all.
Jesus built my hot-rod.
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
jerry lee lewis was the devil
jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
all of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world
so there was only one thing that I could do
was ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long
Until he crashed it.
I still built it, asshole.
No.
maybe.
whatever…
and a pack of smokes
i stole ten bibles on my last road trip.
LOL
Religion is just like every other organization, including the government or corporations. It may have or seem to have the best of intentions, but in the end the wicked will find a way to get rewarded and the weak will be exploited.
Believe what you want by yourself. If you think you need someone to tell you what to believe in, then your not thinking hard enough.
Truth ^^^
This^^
No, no. It’s okay.
I… I don’t believe in me either.
Hey i believe in you jesus.I think someone needs to attend my seminar on self-esteem building/
Also, Dad, you need to stop having a relationship with other people and have one with ME. How hard is it to go out back with me a toss a ball or two while shootin the shit? Pretty hard apparently WHEN YOU’RE GOD.
Go fuck yourself.
i have my own god. he is immeasurable, incalculable, infallible, unforgiving/all forgiving, just/petty, fair/hates you, understanding/still hates you, casemods/fucking retard, all seeing/watch your ass.
Magnets…. miracles and magic…. yo
Do you write rap lyrics?
magnets are immeasurable? NOWAIGTFOPIZZA
100TH COMMENT
Has “Moldy Bible” been linked to, yet?
You expect to let a man who killed his own son into my life? Fuck that shit.
You people have got it all wrong. The Romans killed Jesus (who was a messenger like Abraham before him and Muhammad after him). They killed him for political favor with the Jews, who refused to believe that the words he spoke were the will of God.
Oh, and also: www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1356#comic
I want to go back in time and smoke weed with Jesus…
Light some shit up, mah nigga.
Tried that.
The fucker never called, never answered his fucking phone when I needed him, and never bothered with dinner and a movie before fucking me. God is a bad boyfriend.
they’re all the same God, just in different context and worshiped by different people
Jebus Chris was mildly wounded for your sins.
Whipped, nailed and speared in the side… Dunno if I’d call it a “mild” wounding… lol…
Damn. Still no riverdaledragon..
I pooped a little.