Right.If you don`t consider the fact that there has been a low intensity conflict going on somewhere in the third world every single day since WW2.And these are seldom state sponsored wars.And if you ignore the painfully obvious truth that they are fought by the poorest of the poor against the poorest of the poor.
I’m about as liberal douchebag as you get, but even I feel obliged to point out Osama Bin laden is more wealthy than just about everyone on this site. Same goes for all the fundamentalist religious leaders in the middle east… they abuse the poor for their own ends, but they’re hardly poor themselves. Thia little quote is a truism.
Wealth is relative. He has the wealth (or his organization does) that he stage terrorist attacks, but he lives in hiding in caves or moving constantly between villages in a 3rd world tribal area. As much as I’d like to kill that sunnofabitch a thousand times over, he is no rich man living it up while others die. He is hardcore, which is why we haven’t gotten him (Saddam? Now he was a rich fat bastard, no wonder we caught him so easy).
I’m still not sure how anything thus said above has anything to do with the liberal/conservative divide. Maybe that the liberals acknowledge that the situation that DullMentalRacket talks about, and the fact that the west supports some of the religious leaders (in Saudi Arabia), or supported the non-religious leaders that did the exact same thing (the Shah of Iran), that it is easy for malcontent leaders to use the west, and America in particular, as scapegoats for the fanatics in the middle east who are venting their collective frustration at the world basically leaving them out of the prosperity of the 20th and 21st centuries, while at the same time exploiting their natural resources by making exclusive deals with elites who give none of it to building the infrastructure and prosperity of their nation as a whole.
So liberals admit we are being hoisted on our own petards, but offer no easy solutions, Conservatives pretend it’s all some onerous outsider’s completely unprovoked animosity is to blame, and offer simple-minded solutions that don’t work. So either way we’re screwed.
you think osama bin laden is rich? why would you think that? he was disowned from his family, and no one’s giving him an allowance, and everytime the US gets the chance we freeze his assets.
Until national war spending destroys our economy, but I’m sure the stockholders will have opened their golden parachutes by then.
But yes, war is good for business. That’s why I always say that with situations like the west vs. middle eastern fanatics, or Israelis vs. Palestinians, or Russians vs. Chechians, or pick your continuous conflict: there are too many people with too much power who gain too much personally from the status quo.
He’s still “rich” … like he didn’t grow up in poverty… if he really is downbeat for a lack of funds it was completely self imposed. Also the taliban was funding him with heroin money, ergo we’re in Afghanistan …
They’re not being silenced, they’re being rated. All that happens as a result is that you have to click to see the comment. It’s still there, anyone can see it; a lot of them don’t like it apparently. It’s not as if they get voted off the site or anything.
That’s what I said, but it’s not the same as being silenced, that suggests a permanence that down-voting doesn’t accomplish. It’s one way to express themselves, yours is another.
I meant to say that they are down voting to suppress the intelligent opinion while blasting everyone with the dumbshit opinion and in doing so are making the same usual mistake I see over and over again with their type.
I expressed myself with words in a comment section. They did too (though badly) and tried to get rid of anything they disagreed with.
These are the same geniuses who like to throw around the word fascist whenever something doesn’t go the way they were told to think it should.
It’s almost too stupid to comprehend but they persist.
And in their eyes they’re fighting the power right now.
TO THOSE ASSFUCKS and not miss nyokki
Wake up guys…you ARE the majority. You’re the bad guys. What did you think you’d somehow be self aware enough to recognize it?
It is frustrating. Bush’s administration did so many things that outraged me, then Obama comes in, does most of the same things (for mostly the same reasons) and those that screamed at Bush will not scream at Obama. They think they’re speaking truth to power, but they’re just yammering to the north wind, and he ain’t listening.
I will say that I like Obama much more than Bush, but that’s mostly because Bush was an idiot and Obama can give good speech.
You and I disagree on nearly everything politically and yet can debate and respect each other. When did that stop being the case in Congress and the Senate? They’re supposed to keep the peace while getting things done.
Our politicians are often worse. I remember one woman jumping up and down on a Bush doll in front of a camera.
She’d love the morons in this thread.
I can’t understand the Obama fandom either. Its like the final tip of the arrow head of white guilt or something. But I never felt guilty and I doubt you did either.
I guess the message is America doesn’t mind having its asshole raped as long as the person doing it talks nicely to them and has some colour in his skin.
I am continuously amazed at the persecution complex people on the right have. Someone does not agree with your opinion and is willing to say so? My God, man! You’re being oppressed!
Thank you all who down voted my comment, it only shows how true the statement I made is.
Here is what I posted originally:
what a piss poor hippy liberal statement. Pathetic.
Gilly (#734)
14 years ago
Terrorism is the new scare to the 21st century. Bow to your masters, slaves, and buy into the scare! Be scared! Be influenced! Let yourselves be played by them! Oppression is no hard work for them if you do them the favour of doing what they want you to!
Hooray for the powerful, the rich, the influential!
Actually, war and terrorism cannot be compared as they are here. War is an action, terrorism is a method. Terrorists can wage war, as they are doing now in Afghanistan, and soldiers in a war can become terrorists whenever they deviate from their mission (if their mission is benevolent) and commit war crimes or if the war they are waging itself has malevolent intentions. Most importantly, while both terrorism and war share some dark elements, mainly destruction, chaos and the death of many innocents and good people, war is different in one very important way: one of the sides might be doing the right thing, such as defending their country from invaders, or ending a cruel and oppressive regime. Bottom line: terrorism is 100% evil, and war is only as evil as the people waging it are.
what a piss poor hippy liberal statement. Pathetic.
I know, it’s tragic when the truth has a Liberal spin isn’t it ?
Your mother has a penis.
The truth is that, to far-right conservatives, it is reality that has a left wing bias.
Right.If you don`t consider the fact that there has been a low intensity conflict going on somewhere in the third world every single day since WW2.And these are seldom state sponsored wars.And if you ignore the painfully obvious truth that they are fought by the poorest of the poor against the poorest of the poor.
STOP
You have said something intelligent but not immediately dismissible.
Please go to the back and the line and return with something worthy of my golf clap or you will be banned from this Apple store forever.
Sincerely,
Stupid fags who down voted you.
LOL.
Hell yeah, Peter Ustinov. “Corruption is nature’s way of restoring our faith in democracy.”
lol
okcomputer’s comment must be clicked in order to view.
Because he said a naughty about hippy liberal dick sucks.
He’s right.
11 fags who down voted his comment has brain AIDS.
fukU
I’m about as liberal douchebag as you get, but even I feel obliged to point out Osama Bin laden is more wealthy than just about everyone on this site. Same goes for all the fundamentalist religious leaders in the middle east… they abuse the poor for their own ends, but they’re hardly poor themselves. Thia little quote is a truism.
Wealth is relative. He has the wealth (or his organization does) that he stage terrorist attacks, but he lives in hiding in caves or moving constantly between villages in a 3rd world tribal area. As much as I’d like to kill that sunnofabitch a thousand times over, he is no rich man living it up while others die. He is hardcore, which is why we haven’t gotten him (Saddam? Now he was a rich fat bastard, no wonder we caught him so easy).
I’m still not sure how anything thus said above has anything to do with the liberal/conservative divide. Maybe that the liberals acknowledge that the situation that DullMentalRacket talks about, and the fact that the west supports some of the religious leaders (in Saudi Arabia), or supported the non-religious leaders that did the exact same thing (the Shah of Iran), that it is easy for malcontent leaders to use the west, and America in particular, as scapegoats for the fanatics in the middle east who are venting their collective frustration at the world basically leaving them out of the prosperity of the 20th and 21st centuries, while at the same time exploiting their natural resources by making exclusive deals with elites who give none of it to building the infrastructure and prosperity of their nation as a whole.
So liberals admit we are being hoisted on our own petards, but offer no easy solutions, Conservatives pretend it’s all some onerous outsider’s completely unprovoked animosity is to blame, and offer simple-minded solutions that don’t work. So either way we’re screwed.
you think osama bin laden is rich? why would you think that? he was disowned from his family, and no one’s giving him an allowance, and everytime the US gets the chance we freeze his assets.
So he has no money AND the US keeps freezing his assets. That does not compute.
Actually, war is good for buisness
Until national war spending destroys our economy, but I’m sure the stockholders will have opened their golden parachutes by then.
But yes, war is good for business. That’s why I always say that with situations like the west vs. middle eastern fanatics, or Israelis vs. Palestinians, or Russians vs. Chechians, or pick your continuous conflict: there are too many people with too much power who gain too much personally from the status quo.
He’s still “rich” … like he didn’t grow up in poverty… if he really is downbeat for a lack of funds it was completely self imposed. Also the taliban was funding him with heroin money, ergo we’re in Afghanistan …
Holy look at all the butthurts downvoting.
Fucking Nazis.
btw Bin Laden is rich. The US freezes his assets? Your kidding right?
Just like Carlos the Jackal had his assets frozen and a few decades later he got handed to the French cause he was partying too hard.
Bin Laden is only alive now BECAUSE he’s rich.
War vs terrorism is obviously about perspective. One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter etc.
What I really hate about this quote is the reaction.
lefags abound in this thread. They have to silence the opposition in the interest of fair play.
what a piss poor hippy liberal statement.
Pathetic.
what a piss poor hippy liberal statement.
Pathetic.
STOP
You have said something intelligent but not immediately dismissible.
Please go to the back and the line and return with something worthy of my golf clap or you will be banned from this Apple store forever.
Sincerely,
Stupid fags who down voted you.
STOP
You have said something intelligent but not immediately dismissible.
Please go to the back and the line and return with something worthy of my golf clap or you will be banned from this Apple store forever.
Sincerely,
Stupid fags who down voted you.
In case anyone missed it above.
They’re not being silenced, they’re being rated. All that happens as a result is that you have to click to see the comment. It’s still there, anyone can see it; a lot of them don’t like it apparently. It’s not as if they get voted off the site or anything.
That’s down voting to hide the comment.
Where are all these votes in the other threads?
This one has many many more.
Because of the butthurts.
That’s what I said, but it’s not the same as being silenced, that suggests a permanence that down-voting doesn’t accomplish. It’s one way to express themselves, yours is another.
Ah I didn’t mean to suggest permanence.
I meant to say that they are down voting to suppress the intelligent opinion while blasting everyone with the dumbshit opinion and in doing so are making the same usual mistake I see over and over again with their type.
I expressed myself with words in a comment section. They did too (though badly) and tried to get rid of anything they disagreed with.
These are the same geniuses who like to throw around the word fascist whenever something doesn’t go the way they were told to think it should.
It’s almost too stupid to comprehend but they persist.
And in their eyes they’re fighting the power right now.
TO THOSE ASSFUCKS and not miss nyokki
Wake up guys…you ARE the majority. You’re the bad guys. What did you think you’d somehow be self aware enough to recognize it?
You’re stupid. Its sad. Grow up.
It is frustrating. Bush’s administration did so many things that outraged me, then Obama comes in, does most of the same things (for mostly the same reasons) and those that screamed at Bush will not scream at Obama. They think they’re speaking truth to power, but they’re just yammering to the north wind, and he ain’t listening.
I will say that I like Obama much more than Bush, but that’s mostly because Bush was an idiot and Obama can give good speech.
You and I disagree on nearly everything politically and yet can debate and respect each other. When did that stop being the case in Congress and the Senate? They’re supposed to keep the peace while getting things done.
…and I do realize you’re Canadian, but have a similar gov’t structure.
Our politicians are often worse. I remember one woman jumping up and down on a Bush doll in front of a camera.
She’d love the morons in this thread.
I can’t understand the Obama fandom either. Its like the final tip of the arrow head of white guilt or something. But I never felt guilty and I doubt you did either.
I guess the message is America doesn’t mind having its asshole raped as long as the person doing it talks nicely to them and has some colour in his skin.
“Obama can give good speech.” <— Education fail.
Ummm, are you retarded?
Shut the fuck up Magnus! Go climb back into your hole of shame.
That’s a hell of a thing to call your mom’s cunt.
I am continuously amazed at the persecution complex people on the right have. Someone does not agree with your opinion and is willing to say so? My God, man! You’re being oppressed!
Do you not see the innanity of that logic?
I’m on the not.
I’m observing.
And you guys look like morons. When its pointed out…you act like morons.
So moron away.
I’m always amazed that when a group of retarded people get together they forget they’re retarded.
btw: Both sides of guilty of wanting to suppress the other but the leftists such as yourself are 10000000X more guilty of that behavior right now.
Do YOU not see the inanity of recognizing abhorrent behavior and then repeating it yourself over and over?
My God man…I called you’re type retards and now in your defense you’ve acted like one!
sigh… if only the arguments of the world were won by men who use the word “fags”
“sigh”
lol
Oh by the way, Bruce. They are.
Thank you all who down voted my comment, it only shows how true the statement I made is.
Here is what I posted originally:
what a piss poor hippy liberal statement. Pathetic.
Terrorism is the new scare to the 21st century. Bow to your masters, slaves, and buy into the scare! Be scared! Be influenced! Let yourselves be played by them! Oppression is no hard work for them if you do them the favour of doing what they want you to!
Hooray for the powerful, the rich, the influential!
Actually, war and terrorism cannot be compared as they are here. War is an action, terrorism is a method. Terrorists can wage war, as they are doing now in Afghanistan, and soldiers in a war can become terrorists whenever they deviate from their mission (if their mission is benevolent) and commit war crimes or if the war they are waging itself has malevolent intentions. Most importantly, while both terrorism and war share some dark elements, mainly destruction, chaos and the death of many innocents and good people, war is different in one very important way: one of the sides might be doing the right thing, such as defending their country from invaders, or ending a cruel and oppressive regime. Bottom line: terrorism is 100% evil, and war is only as evil as the people waging it are.