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    Soong

    Slow traffic, keep right.

    tiki god

    only if everyone’s still under the speed limit. being in any specific lane is not open season for law breaking.

    Soong

    The speeders disobey the speed limit signs, wanabe law enforcement disobey the keep right signs. We can all agree that republicans should be flayed alive.

    tiki god

    “disobey” is a weak version of “law breakers that should have their licenses removed or restricted.

    “keep right signs” only apply to people doing much less than the speed.

    Soong

    You’ve invented the conditional application of the keep right sign. Not on the sign, not in your drivers handbook, and not in your states laws will you find anything that supports your notion that “slow traffic keep right” only applies to people going under the limit. Prove me wrong, cite your source.

    tiki god

    what sources do I need to have to tell you that there’s no law that says you’re ok to break the law?

    Soong

    I’m telling you they’re both the law and that by intentionally impeding traffic when you have an option not to, you are also breaking the law. Breaking one law because you see someone breaking another does in no way make you a model citizen; it makes you hypocritical.

    Last edited 4 years ago by Soong
    tiki god

    they are not both the law and that type of thinking is insane. in what world would there be a law that tells you to just go ahead and break another law?

    how is that worded in your head? like ok “murder is bad, but if you’re doing it in your bathroom, I guess that’s fine”?

    just as long as you’re in the left most lane on a 5 lane high way, doesn’t matter what your speed is?

    Soong

    What did I say? Both are the law. As in the speed limit signs are law and slow traffic keep right is law. Just because I’m speeding, doesn’t make it legal for you to act as a rolling roadblock. Just like me speeding doesn’t make it legal for you to murder someone in your bathroom. Each is unrelated to the others.

    Flip the question on yourself, is it legal to block someone speeding when there are no cops around? How about if there’s a highway patrol car in a position to see them speeding; do you still slow them down and save them from a ticket or do you let them blow by and get caught? How about if they’re being pursued by police; do you try to be a hero and stop that speeder? Slow traffic keep right means don’t make yourself a problem. If you want the law enforced, call law enforcement. Get a dash cam and send in clips to the tattle tale hotline, but stay in the slow lanes if you’re going slow.

    Last edited 4 years ago by Soong
    tiki god

    > is it legal to block someone speeding when there are no cops around
    emphatically, yes. to be clear, i’m not talking about the strawman you’re building there with mass murderers screaming down the road at 110mph and I’m trying to be batman in my little two door miata. we’re talking about me doing the maximum legal speed, then someone else thinking they deserve the road more than me and want ME to move so THEY can break the law.

    fuck that.

    Soong

    I’ve shredded your position. The sign says get the fuck out of the way, you say “fuck that! I don’t like that so you can’t do that!”. Your argument is no more valid than the pro-lifers who say they can’t get their mistakes hoovered out so neither can you. Weak minded, no self-awareness.

    tiki god

    you’ve barely even made your own position clear, much less “shredded” mine. My point still stands, if you’re breaking the law in the left hand lane, no one is under any obligation to assist you.

    jediadept

    How the Hell does a tall guy like you fit in a Miata?

    tiki god

    I have two of them, I use them as shoes.

    notspamming

    In our world. That’s why firefighters can pour fucktons of water into your apartment, destroying it, and what’s in it, while trying to save adjacent ones. That’s why EMT’s can break your ribs, while trying to resuscitate you.
    It’s called “Necessity”. In simple terms, you sacrifice one good protected by law, to safe another good protected by law. Though the one you’re trying to save, must be of greater value – one apartment < multiple apartments, health < life, etc., etc.
    But that’s offtopic.

    tiki god

    @notspamming are you suggesting that everyone driving 100mph in a 65 mph zone is off to save the world?

    notspamming

    No, that was just answer to you question (“in what world would there be a law…”), hence that bit about it being offtopic at the end.

    tiki god

    thank you for that

    notspamming

    Left – overtaking (going over the limit).
    Right – driving (going the limit).
    But then, I was “classical drive schooled”. So yeah – Soong is right.

    tiki god

    Left should never go over the limit, that’s illegal.

    notspamming

    *Neither left, or right should go over the limit. Nor drive too slowly. Because that’s illegal, and also dangerous.
    Fixed that for ya’.

    tiki god

    Thank you, that’s my point exactly!

    Bolthorn

    I wonder why, of all the things on this earth, people argue almost as fiercely about driving behaviors as they do about religion and politics.

    Self driving cars can’t get here soon enough. Of course, I’ve seen the zealots bemoaning that day too. “They’re taking away our freedom!” You already are required to wear a seat belt and follow loads of other traffic laws. Unfortunately many are quite incapable of following those as I’m sure any of us that have spent even a few months on the road can attest to. At least when a machine is in control, and programmed properly, cars won’t be violating the rules of the road so a human can get to their destination 5 minutes earlier.

    tiki god

    I agree whole heartedly, nearly every trip I take on the interstate I see someone almost die because they were either not paying attention or didn’t understand the circumstances they had put themselves in.

    robot drivers for everyone!

    Jac

    Plus if all the cars were self-driving you could drive to work at 100 mph while reading the paper and eating breakfast… or taking a nap.

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