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    Gropegrope

    Trying a 12 year old schizophrenic in adult court for an assault she believed was ordered by a fictional being….?

    Not really sure why you still keep calling it the “justice” system…

    Old Tofu

    and how about the fact that she convinced another girl of the “delusion” aka excuse and to go along with killing another girl? justice is for the victim , not the criminal.

    jediadept

    This ^

    ack

    I agree.

    Change the name to “Disposal System” and kill the little Bastard.

    Gropegrope

    No compassion for the ill….?

    Old Tofu

    what ill? from what I’ve read they haven’t showed any remorse and only started shouting mental illness after capture.

    Gropegrope

    Diagnosed with mental illness after capture.
    If they are faking it…then let a panel of qualified psychiatrists examine them and decide that.

    And I’m not suggesting that they should get away with it.
    I’m suggesting they need treatment…appropriate treatment for violent schizophrenic juveniles.

    That may include locking them up if they continue to be a danger to others.

    Trying them as juveniles doesn’t change any of this.

    ack

    I have a problem with “qualified psychiatrists” and psychiatry in general.

    From what I have seen in the news, any time somebody gets arrested in the US or UK, the first thing they do is find a “qualified psychiatrists” to give them an “official excuse”.

    Killed somebody? Schizophrenic. Hacker? Aspergers. Drink / smoke / shoot-up too much? Addictive disorder.

    Psychiatry is a scam and is definitely not science.

    Old Tofu

    trying them as juveniles means when they turn 18 they are free.

    Gropegrope

    Like every other medical field, psychiatry isn’t perfect.
    But it is the only peer reviewed, scientifically studied, continually tested and updated field of dealing with mental illness.

    You are basically saying you don’t believe in science ack.

    How does one argue with someone who doesn’t believe in science…?

    As for getting out at 18…not if they are dangerously mentally ill.
    In that case they can be kept until they are deemed no longer a threat.

    Old Tofu

    facts are facts , if tried as juveniles their sentence will end at 18. it’s in the articles about them.

    WistfulD

    If we have to keep trying the truly violent juveniles as adults, does that mean the juvenile justice system somehow doesn’t work? Maybe fixing that is what we should be working on.

    Or, conversely, is it all for show? Some statement like, “in this case, we’re taking justice seriously!” Well then why aren’t we doing so the rest of the time?

    Old Tofu

    it means that not all kids are the same . many know that youth gives them a bit of immunity.

    GrandAdmiralThrawn

    We should hang her crazy murdering ass.

    Same with any adult.

    GrandAdmiralThrawn

    We should hang her crazy murdering ass.

    Same with any adult.

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