1- Regulating and doing are two VERY different things. Even in the examples where the government “did” something, it was almost invariably by contracting a private company who actually knows what the fuck they’re doing. There’s a very good reason nobody uses the goddamn US postal service, kid.
2- Actual Socialism is nothing more that government-sponsored (fake) class warfare where the government uses populist propaganda in order to seize all power while they pretend to care about “the poor”. And their idea of caring about the poor is to ensure they will be forever poor, but they’ll be happy to be poor (ie, by giving them free gifts), in order to make them completely dependent on the government and completely incapable of surviving on their own. So if another politician tries to kick the socialists out of power they’ll invariably say to the people “see, those guys want to take all those free gifts away from you!! They’re evil!! They actually expect you to work for a living while WE only want you to be happy (not doing anything)!!!”
Socialist programs have never been (and will never be) about helping the poor. They’re only about ensuring that the poor will vote for “the right people” and to ensure that they will always be poor because if they ever stop being poor and completely dependent on the government, they might start thinking about their own personal needs and start voting for “the wrong people”.
And yes, I used to live in a “socialist” country (Venezuela). So I know what the fuck I’m talking about.
And I live in one now… Denmark.
You’re comparing oranges and apples, socialist governments are only as good as the men that place themselves under that broad term and ideal. Governments and parliaments can be corrupt and abusive under any label of government but it doesn’t mean that the political ideals themselves are corrupt – only that men are.
By the “World Happiness Report, we continue to be placed in the top 3 for the last 10 years and at no.1 for the last 2 years of 155 countries with the most happiest and satisfied citizenry in the world.
Report includes a detailed analysis in the overall satisfaction of life, happiness and well-being of it’s of citizens into account, items such as highest GPA, standard of living, low crime and security, higher education programmes, universal healthcare plan, the help of the poor, needy, the elderly and the young…etc. edition.cnn.com/2013/09/09/business/earth-institute-world-happiness-rankings/
I cannot convince you because you have only experienced socialism under one aspect of rule but I invite you to come (or read about) Denmark/Scandinavia and experience how socialism can and very much does work.
(I’m a US Marine vet transplanted here by marriage and literally living the life of Riley)
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (a.k.a North Korea) is a prime example of how a government can call itself Democratic, Socialist, Communist, or Monarchist, and yet not actually embody any of those.
The proof is in the daily lives of the people. And while I think there are a lot of good things about the U.S.A., caring for our people and especially our poor is not one of the bright spots. Spend, spend, spend; buy, buy, buy, and ‘oh too bad, sweep them under the rug’ for those in poverty seems to be the dominant social message in the mainstream media (commercials, with a little entertainment to keep you watching for the next set of commercials), more often than not.
I find many Conservatives are anti-social.
They don’t like sharing and don’t play well with others.
We consider this bad behavior in children, why do we accept it in adults….?
1- Regulating and doing are two VERY different things. Even in the examples where the government “did” something, it was almost invariably by contracting a private company who actually knows what the fuck they’re doing. There’s a very good reason nobody uses the goddamn US postal service, kid.
2- Actual Socialism is nothing more that government-sponsored (fake) class warfare where the government uses populist propaganda in order to seize all power while they pretend to care about “the poor”. And their idea of caring about the poor is to ensure they will be forever poor, but they’ll be happy to be poor (ie, by giving them free gifts), in order to make them completely dependent on the government and completely incapable of surviving on their own. So if another politician tries to kick the socialists out of power they’ll invariably say to the people “see, those guys want to take all those free gifts away from you!! They’re evil!! They actually expect you to work for a living while WE only want you to be happy (not doing anything)!!!”
Socialist programs have never been (and will never be) about helping the poor. They’re only about ensuring that the poor will vote for “the right people” and to ensure that they will always be poor because if they ever stop being poor and completely dependent on the government, they might start thinking about their own personal needs and start voting for “the wrong people”.
And yes, I used to live in a “socialist” country (Venezuela). So I know what the fuck I’m talking about.
“Socialist programs have never been (and will never be) about helping the poor.”
America has far far worse social mobility than most ‘socialist’ European countries.
based on….? opinion ..fact… experience
Real measurable statistics, go Google it. I can’t be arsed to educate you, that’s what public schools are for.
And I live in one now… Denmark.
You’re comparing oranges and apples, socialist governments are only as good as the men that place themselves under that broad term and ideal. Governments and parliaments can be corrupt and abusive under any label of government but it doesn’t mean that the political ideals themselves are corrupt – only that men are.
By the “World Happiness Report, we continue to be placed in the top 3 for the last 10 years and at no.1 for the last 2 years of 155 countries with the most happiest and satisfied citizenry in the world.
Report includes a detailed analysis in the overall satisfaction of life, happiness and well-being of it’s of citizens into account, items such as highest GPA, standard of living, low crime and security, higher education programmes, universal healthcare plan, the help of the poor, needy, the elderly and the young…etc.
edition.cnn.com/2013/09/09/business/earth-institute-world-happiness-rankings/
I cannot convince you because you have only experienced socialism under one aspect of rule but I invite you to come (or read about) Denmark/Scandinavia and experience how socialism can and very much does work.
(I’m a US Marine vet transplanted here by marriage and literally living the life of Riley)
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (a.k.a North Korea) is a prime example of how a government can call itself Democratic, Socialist, Communist, or Monarchist, and yet not actually embody any of those.
The proof is in the daily lives of the people. And while I think there are a lot of good things about the U.S.A., caring for our people and especially our poor is not one of the bright spots. Spend, spend, spend; buy, buy, buy, and ‘oh too bad, sweep them under the rug’ for those in poverty seems to be the dominant social message in the mainstream media (commercials, with a little entertainment to keep you watching for the next set of commercials), more often than not.
And we all know that capitalism is all about helping the poor.
Sure it is, really.
I find many Conservatives are anti-social.
They don’t like sharing and don’t play well with others.
We consider this bad behavior in children, why do we accept it in adults….?
At a party meeting, a Communist party officer is drilling a local worker. He asks him:
“Comrade, if you had two houses, would you give one to the Communist Party?”
The worker responds “Yes, definitely, comrade, I would give one of my houses to the party!”
Then he asks “Comrade, if you had two cars, would you give one to the party?”
Again, the worker says, “Yes, I would give one of my cars to the party!”
Finally, the officer asks, “If you had two shirts, would you give one to the party?”
The worker thinks about this for a while and says, “Well, you see, the problem is, I actually HAVE two shirts…”
Differences between communism and socialisim – read about it.
did socialism ask me a question
Socialism wants to know if you want to go out to dinner.