seriously, the swastika has meant good luck and prosperity for 10,000 years. 100 years of meaning the opposite doesn’t even come close to making a difference in the long run.
It makes a giant difference in the long run – it just makes you sound like a douche. Try asking anyone with friends and family who have survived the holocaust…and have stories of who they lost to the Nazis. Hell, ask most modern Jews how they feel about. Associations are what they are, and just because you feel differently doesn’t change that fact.
Another example is that I would be a douche for using the words “negro” and “negroid”, even in an anthropological sense. Although these are perfectly valid words, they bring to mind memories of an era of discriminatory policies, and to use them in conversation is pretty impolite. We avoid using this term because we’re reasonable people and don’t want to piss other people off.
It’s not whether or not you or I think that these things have a different meaning or don’t mean to use them in an offensive way. It’s that people are offended by them.
I am fully aware of the history and symbolism of the original swastika. However, your trying to bring the swastika back brings up some evil offensiveness in our very recent history. The original meaning is not going to change that. It only makes you seem like a truly insensitive douchebag. I’m sure that you are better than that. Please stop.
Unless you’re in most parts of Asia, where Swastikas are such a common decorative motif it doesn’t even register with most people.
In China, I used to live across the street from a gigantic wall with thousands of swastikas carved in. I asked my neighbour who had lived in the same building for years and she said, “Oh, yeah, I guess I didn’t notice they were there.”
But they “sun with rays” that we would associate with childrens’ drawings? Don’t wanna be flashing that one around.
actually, you are the one who sounds like a douche. instead of realising that there are a lot of instances where the swastika doesn’t mean what you want it to mean (and those instances are getting more and more common as time moves along), you are saying “no, it doesn’t mean that any longer, it means something entirely different now, and nothing you can say will change my mind.”
the nazis and the white supremacists rule your life. it’s sad that your great-grandparents got murdered in the last world war, but mine did too, and i don’t let that control what i think about one of the world’s oldest symbols of love, good luck, and prosperity.
So, you’re choosing to continue being insensitive to others – with the idea that it is their problem, not yours. Perhaps that speaks of your character.
I’m pretty sure you show this picture to some jewish folks they wouldn’t have a problem with it, now put it on the white circle with a red background and it makes a difference. if you’re so sensitive that seeing swastikas in their asian form then you should probably stay inside.making the whole world change for any one group is ignorant.
Too bad about the Nazis.
And their bastardizing of the swastika? Yeah. Nothing to do about it now.
except to reclaim it…
seriously, the swastika has meant good luck and prosperity for 10,000 years. 100 years of meaning the opposite doesn’t even come close to making a difference in the long run.
It makes a giant difference in the long run – it just makes you sound like a douche. Try asking anyone with friends and family who have survived the holocaust…and have stories of who they lost to the Nazis. Hell, ask most modern Jews how they feel about. Associations are what they are, and just because you feel differently doesn’t change that fact.
Another example is that I would be a douche for using the words “negro” and “negroid”, even in an anthropological sense. Although these are perfectly valid words, they bring to mind memories of an era of discriminatory policies, and to use them in conversation is pretty impolite. We avoid using this term because we’re reasonable people and don’t want to piss other people off.
It’s not whether or not you or I think that these things have a different meaning or don’t mean to use them in an offensive way. It’s that people are offended by them.
I am fully aware of the history and symbolism of the original swastika. However, your trying to bring the swastika back brings up some evil offensiveness in our very recent history. The original meaning is not going to change that. It only makes you seem like a truly insensitive douchebag. I’m sure that you are better than that. Please stop.
Unless you’re in most parts of Asia, where Swastikas are such a common decorative motif it doesn’t even register with most people.
In China, I used to live across the street from a gigantic wall with thousands of swastikas carved in. I asked my neighbour who had lived in the same building for years and she said, “Oh, yeah, I guess I didn’t notice they were there.”
But they “sun with rays” that we would associate with childrens’ drawings? Don’t wanna be flashing that one around.
actually, you are the one who sounds like a douche. instead of realising that there are a lot of instances where the swastika doesn’t mean what you want it to mean (and those instances are getting more and more common as time moves along), you are saying “no, it doesn’t mean that any longer, it means something entirely different now, and nothing you can say will change my mind.”
the nazis and the white supremacists rule your life. it’s sad that your great-grandparents got murdered in the last world war, but mine did too, and i don’t let that control what i think about one of the world’s oldest symbols of love, good luck, and prosperity.
So, you’re choosing to continue being insensitive to others – with the idea that it is their problem, not yours. Perhaps that speaks of your character.
I’m pretty sure you show this picture to some jewish folks they wouldn’t have a problem with it, now put it on the white circle with a red background and it makes a difference. if you’re so sensitive that seeing swastikas in their asian form then you should probably stay inside.making the whole world change for any one group is ignorant.
omg there were indian nazis
dammit that was mine!!