So if you’re eligible to vote in the US Presidential election, do you plan on voting this year? If not, why?
I’ve already done my ballot, it was very exciting.
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Abe Lincoln.
I’m voting for Tyson. I thought I already mentioned that?
I already voted. I voted for Johnson since I could not stand to throw my vote away due to peer pressure again and I agree with him on everything but the timetable for bringing the troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq.
The only throw away vote is for someone you do not believe in after all.
I wish more people thought like this.
“throwing a vote away” is when you vote for someone that has no chance in hell in winning.
I believe that’s what you did anon. sorry 🙁
Yep pretty much. But on a positive note he at least got off his rump and voted. There will be allot of complainers this year that didn’t vote.
As always -_-
No, sir.
Throwing your vote away is when you vote for someone you don’t think is worth voting for.
Increasing the size of third-party votes in this election gives them better footing and more equal access to the ballots during the next elections.
Well that’s what bugs me about your voting system, and about a part of ours, too: If you really feel you have to choose between a giant douche and a turd sandwich, you’re screwed.
Genuine curiosity: What good does voting for third-party candidates do?
If a third party gets at least 5% of the vote, it gives them equal access to all state ballots in the next election. There are several states where the Green Party, Libertarian Party, and the other minor parties are not given a space on the ballot even with being fully qualified presidential candidates. Some places also don’t allow you to write-in a favored candidate. 5% of the vote can remove this block.
Ethically, I agree with you… provided that the goal is to be righteous even in spite of reality. I don’t understand how taking action that you have proof positive will not make a difference can be preferable to trying your best to manipulate the lesser evil in your favor. It results in more action.
The race is extremely close – there’s no excuse to say your vote won’t count UNLESS you go third party.
All votes count. Period.
When it comes down to it, the people that want you to think a third party vote doesn’t the most are the two primary parties. The oligarchy will continue.
Count might be a poor choice of words, I think.
I’m not saying it’s worthless, just a needless embracing of ineffectiveness. In the past few years I’ve come to believe that the two party system works better than I gave it credit for now that its boiled down to base social philosophies rooted in the moral binary continuum of conservatism v. liberalism… but having that argument is what drives compromise, what finds solutions, what creates moderates… at least when there’s respect involved. Jon Haidt did a TED Talk on this that I really thought hit the mark.
As for oligarchy, good luck getting around that one in a capitalism-driven republic. The capitalist will buy perceptual sway over the polis, always. If one party fell, and a party that was hitherto considered a vote “not counted” rose to power, they’d just go tit for tat until the distance between them worked back to the LibCon binary and all the backing would shift and we’d be back where we started with different names. And if you force three parties? Forget about it. A system where 65%+ can be fore something and they lose? In ‘MURRICA? American Representative Democracy is the Microsoft Windows of government systems. It’s not the best we can do, but it’s what’s working best right now.
Too-long-story-short, I still say it’s better to affect what you can when your true hopes are already lost.
“And if you force three parties? Forget about it. A system where 65%+ can be fore something and they lose?”
What about Proportional Representation?
I believe that people should be free and as such it is morally wrong to force my will upon others. Therefore I will not vote. If I were to vote, it would have been for Johnson.
I already voted. The day after I received my mail-in ballot. Stuck two stamps on it as well.
Stein is who I fell in line with, but I declined to vote for her and throw it away, being in a battle ground state. A friend thought it was funny when he had been voting third party up until 2000, thinking that there was no way Bush would get elected. And he did.
John-117
same here!
For sure. MC IS BACK
the wife and I got our vote in early.
still had long lines to deal with even here in Texas.
No early voting here in SC so I’ll be voting tomorrow.
Even though my vote wont count in this state, I’ll still be at the polls.
It won’t count?
Yeah SC like many of the states is a all or nothing state. I’m voting for Obama. I’m in a dominate republican state. All it takes is for Mitt to get 51% of the vote, and he receives all of our electoral votes. Meaning my vote counts for nothing in this state. As it will be ignored if the votes go over 51%. And for anyone who has doubt in that matter let me ease their worry. I have lived in this state all my life, and can confirm Mitt will likely get about 65 to 70% of the vote.
Last election I must say I was dumb found when Obama won 44% of the vote here in SC but that was b/c McCain said out right he was going to keep doing what Bush was doing, and everyone in the country pretty much stood up and said “The fuck you are”
I am all absentee, all the time. I voted over a week ago.
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