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HoChunk (#5604)

12 years ago

Heard a story recently about how he got hired as director of NYC’s Rose Center/Hayden Planetarium: his predecessor used the place to show a Star Trek exhibit, prompting a New York Times op-ed column that raked him & the museum over the coals for it. Soon after he was shown the door, NDGT got the gig.

If I can locate the article in question, I’ll link to it.

RSIxidor (#950)

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12 years ago

And?

HoChunk (#5604)

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12 years ago

www.nytimes.com/1994/02/26/opinion/science-fiction-at-the-planetarium.html

HoChunk (#5604)

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12 years ago

Not as severe as I was told, but the original Hayden was demolished 3 years after the article.

RSIxidor (#950)

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12 years ago

Oh, I thought somehow this was saying that NDGT had gotten the guy fired.

HAPPY POOP (#)

12 years ago

Once again the athiests get it all wrong. It isn’t the questioning God that gets the punishment. It isn’t even the doing wrong. It is refusing to accept that God is real and that he died for your sins that gets you sent to hell.

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September 20, 2012 at 9:56 am
What I love about this impassioned plea is that you don’t refute the key problem that the poster is pointing out (i.e. loving Deity who has set up a way for you to be tortured forever), just the WAY that you will be tortured forever.

So the poster should actually read “I love you, but if you don’t accept that I exist despite any demonstrable proof, if you formulate any ideas that weren’t coneived of two millenia ago, I will torture you forever in waysyou can’t imagine.”

If it read that, aces. Did I get it wrong?

hochunk (UID# 5604) 3 1
September 20, 2012 at 2:21 pm
If God gave us the capacity for Original Sin, Then any disbelief in Him is kinda His fault, isn’t it?

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pretty lame statement lol

npbnjvsxynpsff (UID# 44655) Well-loved. Like or Dislike: 4 0
September 20, 2012 at 11:11 am ? Baby don’t hurt me. Don’t hurt me no more. ?

dallasalice (UID# 16723) Well-loved. Like or Dislike: 4 0
September 20, 2012 at 11:27 am Sort of out of the blue I suppose, but I wonder what the atheists here think of the whole free speech argument over the Islam-insulting film that allegedly, but actually did not, set off the embassy attacks overseas. The head of the UN said that he believed in free speech except in causing hurt and insult to others, and the LA Times, and several high-profile folks in entertainment and politics have said the film-maker needs to be punished for insulting Islam – well, inflaming things anyway, making the “crying fire in a theater” argument. There are even calls for international laws against insulting religious figures, including Mohammad, Buddha and Jesus. So in light of that, where do you guys stand? I mean you’re never gonna see Christians attacking embassies or calling for the arrest of atheists when they “attack” Jesus or Christianity. Sure they moan and groan and get a prayer circle going for you which I know is annoying, but past that you can be pretty sure you are safe. But what if they start passing laws that say you can’t post things that attack religion? Any religion including the horror that is Christianity. What WILL you guys do for fun on the internet then? Or seriously, what will you do about it at all? And before you say, bullshit, it will never happen, I strongly suggest you rethink that. Once they started calling things “hate crimes” they opened a big damn door because any thought can be described by someone else as hateful and therefore any statement can as well. I’ll end by saying I assume you guys are a tad concerned about this trend. I know I am because no matter how offensive the speech one should have the right for the government not to restrict it.

korinthian (UID# 3174) 0 1
September 20, 2012 at 11:44 am
I’ll take a shot at answering some of that:

Streisand Effect.

dallasalice (UID# 16723) 2 0
September 20, 2012 at 12:07 pm Oh yes, the more you try to ban speech the more if flowers, but that so far that has really only applied to the calls for free speech restrictions. No one, in the USA anyway, has passed laws restricting free speech against religion. Or kowtowed to foreign laws doing so. My question, though was I assume you are at least a little concerned that our current government, and indeed many of those who usually champion free speech, seem to be placing Islam in a special category. And since the only way that really sells is to ban all trash talk against religion – or at least religious figures – it seems to me that this would be of some concern to atheists as a group. Understand, korinthian, that even though you and I disagree on, well, pretty much everything, I respect your free speech rights and I want no one’s restricted.

dallasalice (UID# 16723) Well-loved. Like or Dislike: 4 0
September 20, 2012 at 12:09 pm My concern is we are moving towards actual laws against insulting religion. And if that happens you might as well say goodbye to free speech totally.

crewmanguy (UID# 47015) Well-loved. Like or Dislike: 4 0
September 20, 2012 at 1:04 pm Free speech should be defended, even if we don’t agree with what is being said.

insanonaut (UID# 179180) 0 1
September 20, 2012 at 2:41 pm The Crusades.

npbnjvsxynpsff (UID# 44655) 0 1
September 20, 2012 at 3:27 pm “…I wonder what the atheists here think of the whole free speech…”
Well, I’m no atheist but…
If that speech is just trolling for the sake of trolling, pissing others of, etc., then it’s not speech, so…

“I mean you’re never gonna see Christians attacking embassies or calling for the arrest of atheists when they “attack” Jesus or Christianity.”
They had their “5 minutes” of “fun and games” in them Middle Ages. Islam is +/- 600 years “behind” them, hence “the fun and games” now.

“…you are safe…”
Nope. People who “believe” instead of thinking, aren’t close to safe, vide all the fuck up cults, people. Does David Koresh ring any bells ? Didn’t Timothy McVeigh believe in Adonai, and took the last sacrament ? How about the “new kid” on the religion block Scientology ?
The Bible didn’t change since the Middle Ages, so the possibility of another Dark Age is still there.

As for the ban of religion criticism, and religions in general, I do hope that someday people will have it enough, and religions will lose their “divinity”, thus becoming just another philosophy.

korinthian (UID# 3174) 0 1
September 20, 2012 at 3:53 pm
“If that speech is just trolling for the sake of trolling, pissing others of, etc., then it’s not speech, so…”

You’re wrong: That’s when free speech is the most important.

(UID# ) 1 1
September 20, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Fuck myths.

Free speech. *Always* and *forever*.

stolid (UID# 1669) 0 0
September 20, 2012 at 5:25 pm
I’d just go to /b/ where you can say and do almost anything.

(UID# ) 4 2
September 20, 2012 at 12:02 pm
From an atheist: free speech good, crazy people bad. Those zealots would be zealots about anything, they just have religion and have been coerced to be this way. They could of been coerced into this because the stay puff marshmallow man was melted by egon for their sins.

You don’t get to be tip toed around because you are crazy, we get you help and pop-sickles that you are not allowed to run around while eating.

outlanderssc (UID# 17653) Well-loved. Like or Dislike: 4 0
September 20, 2012 at 1:53 pm It could be noted that there are numerous religions that don’t believe in eternal suffering for sinfulness.

In fact, it doesn’t even exist in the Bible. According to Revelations after you die you wait for judgement and the “book of life” will be opened to you and God’s plan revealed – if you then reject God you are cast into the lake of fire and destroyed, no eternal suffering.

So eternal suffering is not really a solid argument for Atheism.

bstaples (UID# 6783) 1 1
September 20, 2012 at 4:08 pm
No, let’s not note that. It’s easier to make sharable pictures on the internet if we use concepts not found in the bible or if we grossly deform/over-simplify content.

korinthian (UID# 3174) 2 0
September 20, 2012 at 4:12 pm
It’s easier to live with our religion if we use concepts not found in the bible or if we grossly deform/over-simplify content.

(UID# ) 0 0
September 20, 2012 at 8:29 pm
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(UID# ) 0 0
September 20, 2012 at 8:32 pm
I wonder what the atheists here think of the whole free speech…”
Well, I’m no atheist but…
If that speeSort of out of the blue I suppose, but I wonder what the atheists here think of the whole free speech argument over the Islam-insulting film that allegedly, but actually did not, set off the embassy attacks overseas. The head of the UN said that he believed in free speech except in causing hurt and insult to others, and the LA Times, and several high-profile folks in entertainment and politics have said the film-maker needs to be punished for insulting Islam – well, inflaming things anyway, making the “crying fire in a theater” argument. There are even calls for international laws against insulting religious figures, including Mohammad, Buddha and Jesus. So in light of that, where do you guys stand? I mean you’re never gonna see Christians attacking embassies or calling for the arrest of atheists when they “attack” Jesus or Christianity. Sure they moan and groan and get a prayer circle going for you which I know is annoying, but past that you can be pretty sure you are safe. But what if they start passing laws that say you can’t post things that attack religion? Any religion including the horror that is Christianity. What WILL you guys do for fun on the internet then? Or seriously, what will you do about it at all? And before you say, bullshit, it will never happen, I strongly suggest you rethink that. Once they started calling things “hate crimes” they opened a big damn door because any thought can be described by someone else as hateful and therefore any statement can as well. I’ll end by saying I assume you guys are a tad concerned about this trend. I know I am because no matter how offensive the speech one should have the right for the government not to restrict it.

ch is just trolling for the sake of trolling, pissing others of, etc., then it’s not speech, so…

As for the ban of religion criticism, and religions in general, I do hope that someday people will have it enough, and religions will lose their “divinity”, thus becoming just another philosophy I YOU EAT THE POOP ALL DAY LONG

(UID# ) 0 0
September 20, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Once again the athiests get it all wrong. It isn’t the questioning God that gets the punishment. It isn’t even the doing wrong. It is refusing to accept that God is real and that he died for your sins that gets you sent to hell.

If it read that, aces. Did I get it wrong?

hochunk (UID# 5604) 3 1
September 20, 2012 at 2:21 pm
If God gave us the capacity for Original Sin, Then any disbelief in Him is kinda His fault, isn’t it?

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pretty lame statement lol