Both misguided and false. Never mind the fact that such experiment would have PETA members storming the lab to save the monkeys, the problem is that something like that would never happen and it wouldn’t mean what they imply it’d mean.
First off, if you’re ever seen a monkey climb a ladder you’d know the little devil will be up and down the latter before the first drop of cold water touched the other guys. Also, if the water is hitting the one climbing the latter, that’d be enough to make it stop climbing it and no one would have to beat it. But if the water isn’t hitting it, then the others would just climb after the first one to get the bananas and be protected from the cold water. It’s simply not possible to do what the “experiment” claims it did.
And regarding the “moral” of the story, it is incredibly naive. It seems to say that indirect knowledge is deeply flawed and should be ignored. The problem is that 99.99999% of your knowledge is indirect. And while it’s true that you shouldn’t just accept something simply because everyone else thinks it’s true, it’s also true that it’s stupid to discard any piece of knowledge simply because you don’t know all the reasons behind its existence all the way to the quantum level.
Well spoken my friend. I was about to ask if this story is true or not but I’m lazy to google. But your are right. Disregarding all knowledge is as stupid as believing everything.
In real life they would have all raced up the ladder, end up knocking the bowl to the floor, taking a banana (if they could) and then end up throwing feces at each other.
I see this as an argument for following traditional wisdom, not against. Yes, you are free to discard it just because nobody understands it and the wisdom behind the social norm has been forgotten, but you’re still going to end up getting everyone else soaked and yourself beat-up. Just because people have forgotten the consequences doesn’t mean they’ve ceased to exist.
This is not to say you shouldn’t question norms, but do so in a careful, methodical way, not all at once because “tradition” (ridiculously oversimplified as a single entity) is dumb.
Nurgen (#177884)
12 years ago
Might be more compelling if it weren’t written by somebody that cannot identify a monkey.
Both misguided and false. Never mind the fact that such experiment would have PETA members storming the lab to save the monkeys, the problem is that something like that would never happen and it wouldn’t mean what they imply it’d mean.
First off, if you’re ever seen a monkey climb a ladder you’d know the little devil will be up and down the latter before the first drop of cold water touched the other guys. Also, if the water is hitting the one climbing the latter, that’d be enough to make it stop climbing it and no one would have to beat it. But if the water isn’t hitting it, then the others would just climb after the first one to get the bananas and be protected from the cold water. It’s simply not possible to do what the “experiment” claims it did.
And regarding the “moral” of the story, it is incredibly naive. It seems to say that indirect knowledge is deeply flawed and should be ignored. The problem is that 99.99999% of your knowledge is indirect. And while it’s true that you shouldn’t just accept something simply because everyone else thinks it’s true, it’s also true that it’s stupid to discard any piece of knowledge simply because you don’t know all the reasons behind its existence all the way to the quantum level.
Well spoken my friend. I was about to ask if this story is true or not but I’m lazy to google. But your are right. Disregarding all knowledge is as stupid as believing everything.
It’s mob mentality, retard.
You want real research? Go read papers and journals. This is the internet.
In real life they would have all raced up the ladder, end up knocking the bowl to the floor, taking a banana (if they could) and then end up throwing feces at each other.
I see this as an argument for following traditional wisdom, not against. Yes, you are free to discard it just because nobody understands it and the wisdom behind the social norm has been forgotten, but you’re still going to end up getting everyone else soaked and yourself beat-up. Just because people have forgotten the consequences doesn’t mean they’ve ceased to exist.
This is not to say you shouldn’t question norms, but do so in a careful, methodical way, not all at once because “tradition” (ridiculously oversimplified as a single entity) is dumb.
Might be more compelling if it weren’t written by somebody that cannot identify a monkey.