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Yeah. The First and last one I watched the guy wasn’t doing anything but trying to take the other to the ground.
That’s why BJJ is superior.
Popular, yes. Superior, not really. BJJ against multiple opponents or weapons is failure waiting to happen.
You’re wrong on a number of levels, but I’ll cut to the chase.
It’s a moot point. Pretty much all martial arts can’t deal with multiple attackers or weapons. Anyone who claims different is usually delusional or ignorant.
Criticizing BJJ for that is like criticizing BJJ for not working against a mortar strike.
Even worse, the people who claim to be able to fight multiple attacks ad /or weapons usually are too incompetent to fight a single unarmed person, yet they believe they can fight when the stakes are even higher.
The fact of the matter is that BJJ is proven to work, which is a lot more than you can say for a lot of other martial arts. That’s why people try to deride it so much.
My friend kicked you in the head why you were grappling on the ground with your uke. TKO
Or
That guy you Jujitsu on the bar floor had a knife and sliced you up and down while you were attempting to perform an arm bar. All martial arts have their strengths and weaknesses. I am simply pointing out Ju- Jitsu’s.
BJJ doesn’t claim to be suitable for that. What’s your point?
And I am simply pointing out that most martial arts that claim to defend against multiple attackers or knife wielding opponents don’t.
It’s pretty obvious that if a martial art can not beat 1 unarmed person, they aren’t going to be effective against more than on person.
Honestly though, there are people who train multiple attackers and weapons realistically, and BJJ stacks up fairly respectably. It does better than you would assume. I personally have sparred against multiple attackers and shock knives. There are some situations where ground fighting is actually essential.
But the main point is no matter what you do, there is no real training for those situations.
BJs are awesome!
Free prelims on Fox FX tonight, should be fun!
I’m surprised some people are still late to the party on this stuff. It seems like most of the people who dismissed it 4 or 5 years ago are suddenly succumbing to the allure.
Nick Diaz is a faggot. GSP will pull the wet from his back because he is a robot.
There are some number of MMA fights that end in a knockout instead.
I mostly find the whole thing boring to watch, though.
I’d rather watch Kick Boxing or Muay Thai or Judo.
I find that people need an educated mind to appreciate MMA.
Most people can get entertained by flashy moves and big knockouts, but can’t appreciate the more subtle elements that come from the grappling aspect of MMA.
Watching grappling is like watching a chess game. If you don’t know what’s going on, you’re not going to get a lot of entertainment value from watching it.
I R never seen any MMA or UFC. Never seen it on pay per view or free on Spike TV or USA. I have never even been to an MMA Gym to watch UFC and I don’t know anyone that trains in MMA… NOT!
You really are a simple minded fool that jumps to quick judgements and conclusions. lol
I don’t have a problem with MMA. Hell, Ninjutsu is pretty much traditional MMA. I have a problem with the people that practice MMA. Most practice the art and act like neanderthal with a shitload of ego seeking out conflicts/fights. This goes against EVERYTHING martial arts is about. The fanboys of UFC act even worse. Besides MMA is becoming a joke like boxing at this point as a sport.
Ninjitsu is not MMA.
There you go pointing fingers and making accusation again. But let’s remember you little hypocritical mantra.
“it’s not a smear when you do it.”
Besides, you really proved my point. It takes real knowledge to appreciate a grappling match. You don’t understand it, so you toss labels around like neanderthal.
You really don’t demonstrate any real knowledge. Just ego.
Fun fact: Watching something on TV doesn’t give you real knowledge, and simply associating with someone who does something doesn’t mean YOU personally know anything.
I know plumbers. Does that make me knowledgeable about plumbing?
It’s also funny how much you cry about smears just to turn around and smear the people who do MMA. So childish.
Face facts, the real reason behind all of this is your fragile ego.
Think before you speak, PuPu.
Well you don’t exactly say anything. Just broad points and generalizations. The only way to respond is with broad generalizations. You don’t even have the ability to engage in a conversation, so why would I expect you to engage in a debate?
Why would I demonstrate knowledge on the internet, and to a nameless person. Especially one that is clearly fanatical about one style of martial arts. Get some perspective before you attempt to prove a point next time.
Peace!
I can tell you’re stuck up your own ass.
I haven’t made broad generalizations. I made two very specific points.
One was about the purpose of the gi.
One was directed at the lack of apparent skill in our friends the Ninja Ladies.
Really you’re the one who can’t conduct a conversation. You have failed to address a single point. You respond with smears and generalizations.
You talk about what it is to be a martial arts. Yet one tiny question sends you on a childish rampage.
You haven’t proven yourself worthy of a normal response.
And all you are doing is repeating what I am calling you out on so… Perhaps you lost too many brain cells or something.
And this started with you bitching about me liking the sports judo and kickboxing over MMA and jujitsu. As well as you bitching about women doing Ninjutsu, which you clearly do not understand. But you swear MMA and Jujitsu is far superior. Then something about the history of the gi because you are so knowledgable about martial arts and I know nothing.
Then I called you out because you are too lazy to call yourself a name and trolled you. Which you took as me being ignorant and having an attitude. I don’t even think of myself as a confident person. So thank you for that compliment.
Enjoy your sports and I hope someday you see that there is more to martial arts then self defense. Also no martial arts are better then others, because at their heart the all serve the same purpose. But only if your instructor kicks ass and you aren’t a goober. You are most definitely a goober.
You have no rational response. That’s the point.
What is funny is you say I haven’t earned a rational response, then you respond anyway.
Golf clap for contradicting yourself so much.
I never said BJJ or MMA was greater than your silly martial art. Good lord, do you know what projection bias is? I made criticisms that pertain to training methods. That’s what you don’t get.
Hell I could make criticisms of all martial arts all day and you would nod your head in agreement. But you fly off the handle at the slightest criticism of your precious flower.
And that’s the point.
While you’re busy bragging about how much you understand what it means to be a a martial artist, maybe you should ask yourself if you really understand all you pretend to.
Pupu, for me martial arts is a lifelong journey of self discovery. To take such a journey, one has to constantly empty the mind and relearn what you think you know.
It is not about constantly telling yourself that those silly neanderthals just don’t get it 🙂
Case in point to illustrate your…lack of perspective.
You condemn me for claiming one martial art is superior to another. Which I didn’t do, but you’re so defensive you aren’t even deeply considering what I’m talking about.
Then you turn around and mock other martial artists for not “getting it”.
Is any of this getting through your prejudices?
puulaahi, I think it’s time the curtain came down.
I really just wanted to see how you would respond to a little prodding, so I chose three things that are sore spots for a lot of (or most) martial artists. One was direct criticism of you. One was criticism of your martial art. One was a criticisms of your training methods.
You responded in a predictable manner. Not necessarily surprising, considering the mountains of pride every martial artist tends to carry around.
You have spent the majority of this discussion telling me how one martial art is not better than the other, then on the other hand insisting how much better you are than those silly neanderthals.
A friend of mine who instructs BJJ loved your comment. He wants to know if he can walk around with a club since he’s a neanderthal.
Now the truth comes out. I do Bujinkan. I have for a long time now. Also Krav Maga, but that’s another story.
Hey, I’m isreali. That was what was the shit when I was born.
Let me tell you the most important thing I learned in Bujinkan: There is no such thing as a martial art. There are only training methods and techniques.
I admit that I was trolling, but I wanted to see if you could step away from your biases. Instead you responded as most martial artists do went pressured about their beliefs.
One friendly piece of advice. You claim to believe that no martial art is superior to another, yet on the other hand you display a large amount of prejudice towards certain martial arts. I started a discussion on a training method that you turned into a wank fest over the superiority of on martial art to the other.
I urge you to think a little deeper about these so-called sport fighters. There is a mountain of thing you can learn from them. I think if you came to really understand them, you would see some of them have the spirit of true Bud?.
I actually came here at the behest of a friend of mine who posts occasionally here. He described this place a a cesspool of “trolls, sociopaths, nerds, geniuses, and perverts, all packaged together for maximum entertainment value.” He actually has a high opinion of you.
I want to leave you with two videos. On has awful technique, and the other has good technique. Both are bujinkan.
1.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXu9qrXHhoc&feature=related
2.
And here is some weapon sparring from the Dog Brothers. I think the successes and failures of ground fighting techniques are thought provoking. Some people may dismiss these fighters as “cavemen” or thugs.
Bud? should have said budo.
You are fucking crazy. Judging me through my response to being trolled, when in fact I was trolling you…. FUCK YOU!!
I know what real technique looks like… I have friends who train in MMA and BJJ…Kung Fu…
There are plenty of neandertals in martial arts and most are in and fans of MMA.
I know what the point of martial arts is…
If you perhaps would have acted like a normal human being, I would have responded like one.
Get a mirror pal.
In closing, FUCK YOU.
Look outside of yourself. This game you just played says everything about the pride you yourself have man.
In parting I am a completely different person offline and especially from MCS.
Bujinkan is the art of no art. I am no expert on it, nobody is. Even Soke is humble on what he knows and does not. Martial Arts exists only to be a better person then you were yesterday. Ethically, physically and most of all, spiritually. Everything in life is budo.
Martial Arts is so much more then how to defend yourself and most certainly goes beyond the color of your belt. Rank is bullshit. Talk is bullshit and there is far too much talk. The whole “my martial art is better then your martial art” is as worthless as the current state of the modern world.
I train 5 to 8 times a week in Bujinkan. My dojo trains in all aspects of the art more then two times a week. My instructor posts basic lessons on youtube and he is one of the most popular teachers on there. He is always stoked, so full of info he doesn’t remember names to everything and is insanely fluid with his movement. Ninjutsu has changed my life and has become my life. I suck at it and feel like a kook. But I know I have grown tons as a person and physically. I am defeating my illness’s because of it. I have met awesome friends for life and have more fantastic experiences coming. I have trained hard for 2 and a half years. So of course I am proud and of course it’s personal. I wake up almost every morning, depending on how I am feeling, before the sun comes up to train. I am that committed to the art. I train this much while work part time and doing 12 units of college work. Ninjutsu is my life now and I plan on training in other arts too. But I doubt I will find another dojo like this one ever. They are my family.
If you weren’t a judgemental prick playing games, we could have had an actual conversation about martial arts and Bujinkan. So fuck you.
So much anger and so many excuses.
You have a lot to learn.
Everyone has a lot to learn. Including yourself.
Of course I am angry at you! Missed out on having a real discussion about the art because you are an asshole. You expected me to have a friendly response?
The only thing preventing you from having a discussion is you.
I don’t think you could have a discussion, considering the utter outrage generated over a little criticism. Apparently talking to you like you talk to other people makes me an asshole. Besides, I don’t think you would like what I have to say.
Regardless, I have a plane to catch. Good luck with your training.
You act like you know me, you don’t.Every response you have is condescending. So naturally I respond back so.
I speak to people with respect, compassion and with an open mind. If I didn’t I would have been kicked out or forced out of the dojo, my job(Which deals with people) and even school a long time ago. Get some perspective and step off your high horse. Only then will I respond relaxed. Besides, I honestly don’t care what you have to say, wouldn’t carry any weight anyhow. I doubt any advice you have for training would be helpful.
Congrats on burning a bridge before one was even built.
Safe travels. Wherever you are going.
Ganbatte
Lol that was funny. Jew Fag Anon trolled you hard by acting just like you.
Asshole Jew Fag was probably fake. Puulaahi is a thin skinned idiot who believes his own bullshit..
The icing on the cake was watching all the false modesty at the end. Nice job weeping and crying there about how humble you are, morons.