The homeless man had priors. Lots (I think I read it was either 8 or 10). Plus he’s saying he robbed the teller with just his hand. He indicated deadly force and the willingness to use it. Its his account afterwards that he just needed the money for detox. Right. And when you give homeless people change they use it for food. Not drugs. Sure.
Sentences aren’t weighted by the money you can get or got but by the potential harm to society and insurance fraud and all its loopholes are a lot newer to the world and thus there’s a lack of proper legislature surrounding it.
Even if he did have priors. he turned himself in and plead guilty. even if charges weren’t dropped for that. they should have been reduced a lot. I would maybe understand if he got a few months or even maybe a year, but not 15. he indicated deadly force yes. but he didn’t indicate at any point he wanted to use it, the teller would have been asked in court, did the man appear threatening and did you feel as if he was going to harm you. Given what we’ve read about the events i would assume she said she felt scared. as to be expected. but the fact that he didn’t pull a weapon of any sort and he only had a hand in his jacket how could you feel threatened. how could you know weather this poor guy actually had a weapon? was bluffing? or had a sore kidney or stomach and was holding it?
just becuase you don’t brandish a weapon doesn’t mean that you don’t have one, or that you wouldn’t use it if the victim refused to cooperate. alot of attention is drawn to someone waving a gun around. i would imagine subtlety to be desireable if robbing someone in public. but regardless, if someone walks up to me and says he’s got a gun and threatens to use it if i don’t give him my wallet… you better believe i’m defending myself as though he had one (shooting his dumb ass), bluffing or not. the crime and the penalty is the same wether he had a .50 cal or a snicker’s bar in his jacket.
Thats fucking shit. the poor guys just trying to live!
This makes me mad.
AMURKA
“Justice isn’t equal”
Justice isn’t.
Fixed.
CEO is trying to live too. He drinks fermented grape juice, eats molded cheese, and drives car without roof.
Hell it’s probably nicer in jail than the street, at least he gets 3 meals and a cool hat.
The homeless man had priors. Lots (I think I read it was either 8 or 10). Plus he’s saying he robbed the teller with just his hand. He indicated deadly force and the willingness to use it. Its his account afterwards that he just needed the money for detox. Right. And when you give homeless people change they use it for food. Not drugs. Sure.
Sentences aren’t weighted by the money you can get or got but by the potential harm to society and insurance fraud and all its loopholes are a lot newer to the world and thus there’s a lack of proper legislature surrounding it.
Even if he did have priors. he turned himself in and plead guilty. even if charges weren’t dropped for that. they should have been reduced a lot. I would maybe understand if he got a few months or even maybe a year, but not 15. he indicated deadly force yes. but he didn’t indicate at any point he wanted to use it, the teller would have been asked in court, did the man appear threatening and did you feel as if he was going to harm you. Given what we’ve read about the events i would assume she said she felt scared. as to be expected. but the fact that he didn’t pull a weapon of any sort and he only had a hand in his jacket how could you feel threatened. how could you know weather this poor guy actually had a weapon? was bluffing? or had a sore kidney or stomach and was holding it?
just becuase you don’t brandish a weapon doesn’t mean that you don’t have one, or that you wouldn’t use it if the victim refused to cooperate. alot of attention is drawn to someone waving a gun around. i would imagine subtlety to be desireable if robbing someone in public. but regardless, if someone walks up to me and says he’s got a gun and threatens to use it if i don’t give him my wallet… you better believe i’m defending myself as though he had one (shooting his dumb ass), bluffing or not. the crime and the penalty is the same wether he had a .50 cal or a snicker’s bar in his jacket.
hes laughing all the way to jail making off with our taxpayer money to feed and entertain him for the next 15 years
In the Homeless man’s defence, at least in Prison he will be showered fed and healthy!
not to mention (in Australia at least) educated into a trade so that a job is waiting for him once let out
Race: B
If I was in his shoes, I’d have done the same thing. Although the guilty plea probably wasn’t the best idea.
I’m more concerned with the light sentence issued to the CEO. The sentence if the bank robber is what I would expect for that kind of crime.