“Jesus will come back in my lifetime” <- how often have you heard that from a Christian?
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lol may 21-22.
every one knows the world is going to before that.
What causes me fear is not that fools believe the rapture might happen, what casues me fear is that people humour/humor these fools. Then I get upset when my nephew tells me he has to live his life now because soon he will be raptured away. Seriously, I have people in my family who have no plan for the future because they believe in the rapture, they are looking forward to it.
>”Can’t trust Jesus’ word.”
> Quotes everyone but jesus
“Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all things take place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away.”
Luke 21:32-33
I’m pretty sure that generation passed away, but things are still taking place.
Because if Ghengis Khan/Hitler/Bin Laden/Obama is the anti-Christ, then it’s got to be any day now!
At least most Christians act like they don’t believe that Jesus will come back in their lifetime.
I have no idea how many times it’s been said to me- I’ve been ignoring them for that long now.
friendlyatheist.com/2011/05/16/a-fun-response-to-rapture-day/
I think we should all get in on this.
As usual fucking Nate gets it right.
(Matthew 24:36) “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.
(Acts 1:7) He said to them: “It does not belong to YOU to get knowledge of the times or seasons which the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction.”
That has always been the case and you might as well stick a Darwin fish on the bumper of any “Christian” who claims otherwise.
This is why I love you internet-atheists. These people obviously respect the Bible as much as you do to be brazen enough to try to invalidate…wait for it…THE WORDS OF JESUS. But you people are too busy blindly lumping everyone and everything together.
I can only hope to one day be “sensible” enough to make broad, sweeping generalizations and mock things I don’t understand.
And yet somehow, you conveniently ignore the verse I quoted that directly says, from the words of Jesus himself, that all things would pass within the generation of the people he was talking too. A generation is 20-40 years, maybe 80 years at tops. It’s been over 2000 years. What do you have to say about that? Nothing. You’re wrong and the Bible is a fairy-tale.
>I can only hope to one day be “sensible” enough to make broad, sweeping generalizations and mock things I don’t understand.
>This is why I love you internet-atheists.
>you
You’re right…I got nothing. Allow me to be the first to congratulate you on finding such a glaring hole in the bible record. I wonder how so many people missed such a simple statement…and yet, you found it easily and you’re parading it around proudly…WHELP! Better late than never right?
One small point though…
The Greek > Hebrew translation for “generation” doesn’t refer to a set period of time, but rather it takes on the meaning of “age, age of humankind, or *generation in the sense of contemporaries.*” (G. R. Beasley-Murray)
Jesus often used the word “generation” in conjunction with his rebuke of the Jews. When he called them a “twisted and wicked and faithless” generation (Matthew 11:16; 12:39; 16:4; 17:17), he didn’t mean only the people at that time “20 – 40, maybe 80 years at tops”. He meant as a group, a whole.
Since the disciples of Jesus were being spoken to here (“THIS generation”, as contemporaries), and since this is an answer to their direct and earnest question, “What will be the sign of the conclusion?” he was in effect assuring his faithful followers that as a group, a whole they won’t pass (be done or swept) away. There will be followers of him still around when the end comes, which won’t be May 21.
He wasn’t talking about how he would come back soon? Uh huh.
“Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” – Matthew 16:28.
This is why people invented the Wandering Jew.
Not only is there Korintian’s verse that invalids your whole argument. But the language path of the New Testament was from Aramaic (spoken) to Koine Greek to Latin to English (King James Version). So talking about nuances from Greek to Hebrew is either your wilful ignorance or completely irrelevant.
@Korinthian =\
Really? Here’s why you aren’t to be taken seriously: The explanation of that is in the very next set of verses. A couple days later, some of the men with him when he said that, Peter, James, and John, were taken up to a mountain and saw Jesus in glorious Kingdom power. Please note the parallel account, Mark 9:1,2 which says “ACCORDINGLY 6 days later Jesus took…”
Stop it. You obviously haven’t read the book you hate so much and whatever website is feeding you is as half-assed as you are. You can keep any remaining “proofs” to yourself because you obviously haven’t taken the time to verify what you’re given.
@The Matrix: Rebooted
You too. I’m not talking about the language path for bible translation. It’s a simple Hebrew rendition of a Greek word. And even if I was wrong about that, say something about Jesus using generation in those other scriptures. Tell me I’m wrong, and he was only blasting the Jews from the last “20 – 40 years, maybe 80 at tops”. Don’t bother, because this thread is a waste of all our time.
You and Kor go enjoy your “Rapture Party” knowing that you’re taking it more seriously than your average REAL Christian.
plox to be posting pics of the ensuing hedonistic orgy.
bstaples, what you are saying is basically this: “Jesus didn’t know shit about communicating”.
Let’s say you had friends, and that you would have a party next week that you wanted them to attend. What would you tell them?
Would you say:
A) Next week I will have a party, you’re all invited.
B) Before you die, there will be a party!
And please, nobody here believes that you know either Hebrew or Koine Greek, so your arguments in that area could be countered by anyone else saying that the Greek word “genea” wasn’t used in the way you imply. How do I know? I read it on a page where someone who knows ancient Greek said so (hardly an argument I could in good conscience use, because I don’t speak that language). In short: don’t borrow arguments you can’t really defend.
You’re the one that hasn’t read the bible if you failed to notice that Jesus told people that “time is short” and that they should live like nothing early mattered (bad advice if you have to wait 2000+ years, good advice if the world was coming to an end soon). Read the context, man!
None of the bible was written within 40 years of Jesus
But…
Hahaha!
see, this is why I think atheists are a bunch of pussies.
*whistling past a graveyard*
Will you judged because you do not fear the God
{For YOU know this first, that in the last days there will come ridiculers with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires and saying: “Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep [in death], all things are continuing exactly as from creation’s beginning.”
For, according to their wish, this fact escapes their notice, that there were heavens from of old and an earth standing compactly out of water and in the midst of water by the word of God; and by those [means] the world of that time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water. But by the same word the heavens and the earth that are now are stored up for fire and are being reserved to the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly men.
However, let this one fact not be escaping YOUR notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Yehowah(Jehovah) as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day. Yehowah is not slow respecting his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with YOU because he does not desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance. Yet Yehowah’s day will come as a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a hissing noise, but the elements being intensely hot will be dissolved, and earth and the works in it will be discovered.} Kepah(Peter)
If 2000 years isn’t “slowness” then the word “slow” has no meaning.
What you offer are but bad excuses for why your god offered nothing but lies and promises that would be fulfilled after your consciousness was lost.
If your god does not seek destruction, all he has to do is not bring it at all.