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    dantoo

    This argument makes no sense.

    ian356094

    Apparently judging from what I’ve seen, Human Rights is just as complicated as rocket science to politicians.

    teezy weezy

    Its not rocket science.. good job, americans love guns and are thick as fuck.

    outlanderssc

    Not all Americans – unfortunately the “thick as fuck” ones are very vocal

    teezy weezy

    Very true.

    Korinthian

    Yeah, let’s pretend this is about rights instead of liking things that kill while making loud noises.

    absent

    It’s also my human right not to get accidentally shot by some trigger happy dump chick.

    Korinthian

    Can it not be an accident that you mistake the identity of the one you shoot? Like say, mistaking your neighbor/wife/philandering teenage son for a burglar?

    Take any situation where strong feelings are involved and it is instantly more dangerous if a gun is close by.

    Korinthian

    Yeah, wouldn’t it be wonderful to live in a perfect society?

    Too bad we don’t, eh?

    Reppy

    Self defense = shooting someone because they pissed you off

    Animus

    Or in some states because they look different than you and they didn’t drop dead when you attacked them first…

    Aquaman43

    Guns are for pussies who can’t handle confrontations with their hands.

    flintlocke

    Moot. If a 250 pound guy is close enough to a 99 lb. woman that she’s determined he’s definitely going to rape her, he’s also close enough (and big enough) to take that gun away from her. And maybe rape her with it.

    And an old man popping a shot into a kid for taking a wallet is a justifiable response?

    Only in America…

    Korinthian

    Guns don’t rape people, people with guns rape people!

    Korinthian

    Christ, you didn’t think I was serious, did you?

    nyoki

    Perhaps they can use their brains.

    blowbags

    my only argument is it’s too much power, pretty much what reppy said. Mentally ill geek with a knife… pretty bad… mentally ill geek with a gun…. bodies.

    TGGeko

    What the hell are you talking about. Projectile trajectory, chemical propellant, complex mechanical triggering, Firearms are very much so rocket science!

    outlanderssc

    Note – people in developed countries all over the word manage to defend themselves without high powered concealed weapons.

    DMYTRIW WDS

    What’s the point? Aren’t most college kids minors?

    Make guns less easily accessible and you’ll have less Virginia Tech shootings. Every other country has colleges that don’t have shooting sprees and crime and they have a fuck less amount of guns.

    goatsgomoo

    No, most college kids are adults.
    Also, there are countries with lower gun ownership and a higher firearm-related homicide rate:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_gun_ownership
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

    Also, I think the idea here is that one person with a gun will be less effective at killing large numbers of people if enough of those people also have guns. I’m not sure how true that is, as I haven’t seen any studies on it, though. But, on the other hand, I haven’t seen any studies that show that banning guns from campuses reduce shootings.

    TGGeko

    I think that they are hoping that at the gun saturation point, where everyone has a gun, no one will want to commit crime because anyone can defend themselves, vis a vis the Mutually Assured Destruction

    rienimportant

    That idea requires everyone to follow the Rational Actor Model, which, as history has proven, humanity does not follow. Following that, the argument is ignorant of all the factors and can, and likely will, lead to even more dangerous situations.

    TGGeko

    Although, I’ll have to plot all those to see if there is a correlation.

    treville2001

    Lets just look at those lists for a second. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
    How far down that list do you need to go to get to an IMF rated “advanced economy”? Oh shit look at that The United States, who would have thought? Followed by Finland, who has a rate half to a third that of the US.

    RageDoll

    Are you suggesting that if you are armed and want to go on a rampage, you should target primary or elementary schools? Really?

    The Matrix: Rebooted

    Trivializing proper gun safety by calling it a “point-and-click interface” is exactly why you shouldn’t be allowed to carry a gun around.

    jadechimera

    Professional militaries have enough trouble getting their people to “point” their guns at the enemy instead of friendlies… how are we supposed to trust some moron lurching their way through college with that responsibility?

    Korinthian

    Because otherwise there’d be no military. It’s mostly young people that join up from what I have heard.

    Pandora_C

    Guns are too easy and clean to use. Lets make carrying a sword mandatory instead, and see what happens to crime figures.

    Thatguyinthehat

    To me, self-defense is finding a way out of a dangerous situation. That’s what most martial arts are based around. If you pull a gun out, it’s just a retaliation, an escalation. It’s a desire to grievously hurt something that scares you. It’s strange to think that having the power to hurt people makes you safer.

    sgtwaldo25

    Yelling, belittling, mocking… This guy is a troll. BTW the only guy we lost in Iraq happened when the fucking idiot and his buddy were playing with their pistols on duty with their body armor off. Got him right in the chest; fucking idiots the both of them. These were two “highly trained” individuals. They were in-country and had been through 4mo intensive training. I don’t know about you but I know a hell of a lot of people I wouldn’t want to have a gun under any circumstances. That being said, I am pro 2nd amendment. That being said, there is NO REASON for 30 round mags or pistols except for killing people. None. You can say “It only takes a shooter 3 sec to reload, it wont make a difference” I say, yea but I have seen people, especially people under pressure fuck up a reload easily. Reloading pulls you out of the act of pulling the trigger, not a bad thing when someone is shooting at u. Anyways I think that guy is a troll anyways so it prob doesn’t matter. I mean “rape box?” are you kidding me?

    nyoki

    th3rmite

    I just might quit my job and go into professional home invasions if guns were made illegal. Come on people, if guns were made illegal only the law abiding citizens would comply with the law. Do you really think all of the criminals would turn in their guns? You would then have a huge pool of citizens unable to defend themselves and a criminal populations who would have no risk of facing the ultimate penalty if they were to break into your house.

    Korinthian

    Yeah, because a baseball bat to your head won’t kill you at all.

    One less moron on earth.

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