I am studying Krav Maga. That guy is about to get F’d up. The move is to push his left shoulder forward and pull his right (gun) hand back at the same time. This will create a spasmodic jerk in his right hand and he’ll shoot himself in the head.
You’ve got to be careful, though. I had a manager who claimed to be a former Army hand-to-hand combat instructor. He bragged about being about to disarm anyone who got within arms reach and when we’d practice with dart guns, it seemed pretty effective. But then he tried it for real when someone pulled a gun in our shop and ended up shot in the gut.
Well when dealing with disarming period, it’s an exact science. If you are off by just a little either you will get hurt or people around you will. We’ve been training with airsoft guns as heavy as the real thing. Kinda scary and really difficult at full speed. You have to be aware of everything around you and where that nozzle is pointed at all times. Also being overconfident is a flaw, sometimes you are just better off handing over the money.
@The Matrix: Rebooted
They try to cover most of the bases in H2H instruction. Sometimes common-sense has to set in. Especially when you are at a disadvantage.
@Puulaahi:Very true. We are taught how to check odds in a confrontation. If the odds are not going to be in your favor, give up the money but still count the odds. Any transaction between you and the assailant can increase your odds.
In Bujinkan we do a ton of awareness exercises with guns/knives, which is quite difficult. Luckily I am a bit of a natural. It’s like having another sense, but you have to train it. We don’t do any odds stuff.
supposedly a perfect shot placement to the “medulla oblongata” would switch off bad-guy’s electric systems, and he wouldn’t react with a clench thereby preventing involuntary trigger pull.
I still think a 110kg gym head who regularly lifts twice his body weight will overcome a 60kg geek with technique. Gets a bit different after 8 years of training etc but I hate these people who’ve done it for 9months/a year who come out with stuff like “bigger guys are easier, use strength against them” or “big or small, if your thumb’s being broken you’re going to crumble” – a pair of hands that lift 280kg deadlifts, a pair of legs that push 300kg from floor to shoulder, your not going to be able to A: get past a grip B: bend an arm away from the pecs C: prevent your legs being disabled by being pulled toward them.
Not a snipe at those above, you have conceeded that you need to weigh the situation up more than anything, but I do hear off some geeky types who do judo/ninjitsu etc all this shit – I’d have to see it to believe it.
I am studying Krav Maga. That guy is about to get F’d up. The move is to push his left shoulder forward and pull his right (gun) hand back at the same time. This will create a spasmodic jerk in his right hand and he’ll shoot himself in the head.
Sick!!! Always fun making people knife and shoot themselves in Bujinkan.
You’ve got to be careful, though. I had a manager who claimed to be a former Army hand-to-hand combat instructor. He bragged about being about to disarm anyone who got within arms reach and when we’d practice with dart guns, it seemed pretty effective. But then he tried it for real when someone pulled a gun in our shop and ended up shot in the gut.
Well when dealing with disarming period, it’s an exact science. If you are off by just a little either you will get hurt or people around you will. We’ve been training with airsoft guns as heavy as the real thing. Kinda scary and really difficult at full speed. You have to be aware of everything around you and where that nozzle is pointed at all times. Also being overconfident is a flaw, sometimes you are just better off handing over the money.
Nozzle, eh? Working with hoses or guns?
Nozzle/Barrel – Where the shit comes out and where you don’t want to be.
@The Matrix: Rebooted
They try to cover most of the bases in H2H instruction. Sometimes common-sense has to set in. Especially when you are at a disadvantage.
@Puulaahi:Very true. We are taught how to check odds in a confrontation. If the odds are not going to be in your favor, give up the money but still count the odds. Any transaction between you and the assailant can increase your odds.
In Bujinkan we do a ton of awareness exercises with guns/knives, which is quite difficult. Luckily I am a bit of a natural. It’s like having another sense, but you have to train it. We don’t do any odds stuff.
can’t help but notice he’s using a Walther
I’ve trained in KM for several years. Pretty fun.
supposedly a perfect shot placement to the “medulla oblongata” would switch off bad-guy’s electric systems, and he wouldn’t react with a clench thereby preventing involuntary trigger pull.
*floorboard creak*
JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWS
IZZZZZZRAAAAYLEEEEEEEEESSSS
I still think a 110kg gym head who regularly lifts twice his body weight will overcome a 60kg geek with technique. Gets a bit different after 8 years of training etc but I hate these people who’ve done it for 9months/a year who come out with stuff like “bigger guys are easier, use strength against them” or “big or small, if your thumb’s being broken you’re going to crumble” – a pair of hands that lift 280kg deadlifts, a pair of legs that push 300kg from floor to shoulder, your not going to be able to A: get past a grip B: bend an arm away from the pecs C: prevent your legs being disabled by being pulled toward them.
Not a snipe at those above, you have conceeded that you need to weigh the situation up more than anything, but I do hear off some geeky types who do judo/ninjitsu etc all this shit – I’d have to see it to believe it.