Been playing too much Bad Company, thought that was a Saiga at first. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saiga-12
Perfect for my semi-inept FPS spray and pray strategy.
I disagree. In an urban assault situation, sometimes you need to clear small room very quickly. Also, with the grenade variant shells, you can put like, what, 20 of those things through a window in about 5 seconds? Sounds useful to me.
The other cool thing about the AA-12 is that it probably has less recoil than a Mossburg 500.
But the problem with the urban assault argument is the nature of the scenario itself. If you have a small room filled with just a bunch of targets, then go ahead, an AA-12 works great. But so would an M67, which is cheaper to produce.
Now in the more common variant, there are civilians in the mix. This is more or less why the M4 was produced: it took the power and accuracy of the M16 and condensed it into a smaller, more maneuverable firearm, to be used in CQB situations. With the M4, you can aim and fire accurately and quickly without injuring any civilians. With the AA-12, you either have shot, which is just shit for that situation by nature. If you’re carrying around slugs, then that’s a little better, but given the caliber, it could take 2-3 shots to actually knock a target down due to the drugs they’re given. The AA-12 either has a 20 round box mag, or a 50-round drum. The rate a fire would chew through the 20 round almost instantly, and if you’re using the semi-auto option, then why not stick with the M1014? A Marine is NOT going to be carrying around a 50-round drum and extra ammo, and also have a carbine or rifle. The AA-12 is a great show gun, but it is not that great for combat. Anywhosit, all shotguns are being rendered obsolete by the MasterKey anyway.
Well the arms people have to think of the children of Africa.
SumoSnipe (#4452)
14 years ago
Damn that Clinton and his executive order listing the civilian semi-auto version as a weapon of mass destruction. Took away my best anti-zombie gun I was saving up for before they even hit production….Oh well. just have gotten really good at speed loading my Rem 11-48. Ya, it only holds 5 rounds and is only 20ga…
I think the sights on that thing are pointless…
Not if it is using grenades or slugs.
is this a flechette type weapon?
The proper caption should be “die, furry. Die”
Been playing too much Bad Company, thought that was a Saiga at first.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saiga-12
Perfect for my semi-inept FPS spray and pray strategy.
COD:MW2!
Absolutely unnecessary POS. If you need a fully automatic shotgun, you’re doing it wrong.
I disagree. In an urban assault situation, sometimes you need to clear small room very quickly. Also, with the grenade variant shells, you can put like, what, 20 of those things through a window in about 5 seconds? Sounds useful to me.
The other cool thing about the AA-12 is that it probably has less recoil than a Mossburg 500.
But the problem with the urban assault argument is the nature of the scenario itself. If you have a small room filled with just a bunch of targets, then go ahead, an AA-12 works great. But so would an M67, which is cheaper to produce.
Now in the more common variant, there are civilians in the mix. This is more or less why the M4 was produced: it took the power and accuracy of the M16 and condensed it into a smaller, more maneuverable firearm, to be used in CQB situations. With the M4, you can aim and fire accurately and quickly without injuring any civilians. With the AA-12, you either have shot, which is just shit for that situation by nature. If you’re carrying around slugs, then that’s a little better, but given the caliber, it could take 2-3 shots to actually knock a target down due to the drugs they’re given. The AA-12 either has a 20 round box mag, or a 50-round drum. The rate a fire would chew through the 20 round almost instantly, and if you’re using the semi-auto option, then why not stick with the M1014? A Marine is NOT going to be carrying around a 50-round drum and extra ammo, and also have a carbine or rifle. The AA-12 is a great show gun, but it is not that great for combat. Anywhosit, all shotguns are being rendered obsolete by the MasterKey anyway.
suicydking you are correct; they made sure that little kids could fire it without a problem.
And Marines found out that women (and lazy men) had trouble working a pump effectively.
Well the arms people have to think of the children of Africa.
Damn that Clinton and his executive order listing the civilian semi-auto version as a weapon of mass destruction. Took away my best anti-zombie gun I was saving up for before they even hit production….Oh well. just have gotten really good at speed loading my Rem 11-48. Ya, it only holds 5 rounds and is only 20ga…
Those are ridiculous: Make meat sauce out of people in seconds flat.