Real or not i doubt a pair of shoes is a good substitute for an actual person trained in acupressure or puncture. Sad truth is that even if there are people who can actually manipulate this so called “Chi” (or “qi” as you have spelled it, i’m not correcting you btw)we would have to battle the thousands of phonies and scam artists while simultaneously discovering a way of monitoring this said “Qi/Chi” I don’t know about your life science labs but mine do not have a chi measuring device.
Well, we do know that fake acupuncture needles work as well as real ones, and we know that putting needles on the body randomly works just as well as following ancient meridians. We even know that twirling toothpicks on people’s skin instead of using toothpicks is as effective as putting needles through the skin. It is an elaborate placebo, nothing more.
You bring up a good point, though. There aren’t any machines that monitor qi/chi because it isn’t there. Its just as imaginary as and pre scientific as the four humours. In 1900, the life expectancy in China was in the 30s, now its in the 70s. Let’s go ancient knowledge!
I supposed I could dig up something demonstrable that suggests the existence of Qi, but I think the best proof is that one can learn to manipulate it and feel it for ones self. I know it exists because I can feel it.
There aren’t any devices to measure it because I haven’t built it yet! hmmm, full body galvanic skin response devices?
Fracked what you are saying is that when China was in the middle of a long-term major economic meltdown that had long since broken down into decades of civil war the life span was a bit low? Is that what you mean? I’m kind of curious where you got that number because I’m *pretty sure* there actually wasn’t a functional government in China to take statistics in 1900.
newai I’m not sure what point you’re making because western medicine had been introduced to China a good fifty years prior.
I’m pretty sure qi/chi/æ°” exists and can be monitored because that just means ‘air’ or ‘breathing’.
Clans were keeping records, from which the life expectancy stats were extrapolated.
Also 1850s western medicine wasn’t widely available in China, nor was it very effective.
Air and breathing exist. But the traditional Chinese medical concept is of an unquantifiable and unqualifiable life energy. If it is there (and I would say that we can reasonably conclude that it isn’t) then it isn’t reliably detectable by any means.
I used to work with this girl who had a tattoo that said è½ (an old school way of writing ‘listen’) and if asked she would give this big explanation of it’s deep an intense meaning, and Chinese would just crack up about it because that’s the word you’d use when saying “she doesn’t understand Chinese” (è½ä¸æ‡‚)
The logic he used is that before x-rays were discovered and documented, no one knew how to monitor them, therefore they don’t exist, using the logic you used, logically.
be careful not to step on “Anus” and “Genital GLands” at the same time. sounds fun, but it’s super messy
Are you saying this from personal experience? Personally I like a little tickle on the bum while a girl’s getting me off.
gay
yag
I don’t believe nate knows anything about it.
I haven’t forgotten nate’s…uh…story.
Rectnm? He killed ’em!
People really believe this…
You mean that acupuncture works? Because, you know, it does.
It’s pretty awesome.
It works very well in the transferral of qi (also called money) from the bank accounts of the “patient” to the practitioner.
Real or not i doubt a pair of shoes is a good substitute for an actual person trained in acupressure or puncture. Sad truth is that even if there are people who can actually manipulate this so called “Chi” (or “qi” as you have spelled it, i’m not correcting you btw)we would have to battle the thousands of phonies and scam artists while simultaneously discovering a way of monitoring this said “Qi/Chi” I don’t know about your life science labs but mine do not have a chi measuring device.
Well, we do know that fake acupuncture needles work as well as real ones, and we know that putting needles on the body randomly works just as well as following ancient meridians. We even know that twirling toothpicks on people’s skin instead of using toothpicks is as effective as putting needles through the skin. It is an elaborate placebo, nothing more.
You bring up a good point, though. There aren’t any machines that monitor qi/chi because it isn’t there. Its just as imaginary as and pre scientific as the four humours. In 1900, the life expectancy in China was in the 30s, now its in the 70s. Let’s go ancient knowledge!
I supposed I could dig up something demonstrable that suggests the existence of Qi, but I think the best proof is that one can learn to manipulate it and feel it for ones self. I know it exists because I can feel it.
There aren’t any devices to measure it because I haven’t built it yet! hmmm, full body galvanic skin response devices?
You have felt it? Well thats enough for science! That means Jesus and unicorns are real, too.
I’ve totally felt a unicorn. In my heart.
I’ve felt one too, but in another place.
I don’t like to talk about it.
Fracked what you are saying is that when China was in the middle of a long-term major economic meltdown that had long since broken down into decades of civil war the life span was a bit low? Is that what you mean? I’m kind of curious where you got that number because I’m *pretty sure* there actually wasn’t a functional government in China to take statistics in 1900.
newai I’m not sure what point you’re making because western medicine had been introduced to China a good fifty years prior.
I’m pretty sure qi/chi/æ°” exists and can be monitored because that just means ‘air’ or ‘breathing’.
See page 122 adsri.anu.edu.au/pubs/Zhao/Population%20Studies%201997.pdf
Clans were keeping records, from which the life expectancy stats were extrapolated.
Also 1850s western medicine wasn’t widely available in China, nor was it very effective.
Air and breathing exist. But the traditional Chinese medical concept is of an unquantifiable and unqualifiable life energy. If it is there (and I would say that we can reasonably conclude that it isn’t) then it isn’t reliably detectable by any means.
Ok, that is an awsome link. No sarcasm I’m a history buff and I live for that stuff.
Also, though, seriously: it means ‘air’ and don’t get a tattoo that says æ°” or é“ or 天 or whatever other Chinese word has an odd and obscure meaning in medicine/philosophy/whatever. Chinese folk laugh at that shit like we laugh at Chinglish.
I used to work with this girl who had a tattoo that said è½ (an old school way of writing ‘listen’) and if asked she would give this big explanation of it’s deep an intense meaning, and Chinese would just crack up about it because that’s the word you’d use when saying “she doesn’t understand Chinese” (è½ä¸æ‡‚)
By that logic x-rays and never existed because nobody had invented or discovered a machine that could measure them.
Nope. Digital X ray machines exist. X rays can also be detected and measured with something as simple as black and white camera film.
The logic he used is that before x-rays were discovered and documented, no one knew how to monitor them, therefore they don’t exist, using the logic you used, logically.
These shoes are missing the “puncture” part of acupuncture.
Looks more like acupressure to me.
lulz
I just assumed the needles were in the bulbs for some reason…
It’s only gay if genital glands are touching.
Reply fail.
Looks like Reflexology to me, not acupuncture:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflexology
Looks like a foot massage I don’t have to buy jewelry to get.