a ruptured gas like would shoot a flame out, it would not twist like that (think blow torch).

Also this building is made of cinder blocks in the middle of nowhere. It as a old chimney, and clearly was not much bigger then most garages. I very much doubt it had a gas line, such things usually exist in cites or other large municaplities.

I am kind of wondering why they are spraying water ineffectively on the cinder block wall, you know, instead of into the door/window, or stretch a hand line around the side (no wall) where they could hit the base of the fire (and actually have it do something.

There is really no doubt this is a shop. Fire can not do this.

(And no, do not bring up Dresden, this is TOTALLY different)

After reading Hochucks link. I still say no. They provide no examples of it ever happen on a small scale. There simply is not enough material to burn to create enough heat to generate a vortex such as this.

The only examples provided were literally fires that encompassed an entire city, with everything burning to the point where the amount of oxygen available to feed the fire was inadequate, and the temp. differences involved between the area engulfed and the areas, causing effectively high and low pressure zones and directly changing environmental conditions. Huge wind storms were generated as it literally sucked the are around it in the feed the fire. Part of the reason we stopped bombing Dresden was because it became to dangerous for the pilots.

You can also clearly see that this “vortex” has 0 effect on the surrounding smoke, which is rising normally.

I’m still skeptical.

I saw: this picture.

small ones in science labs

pics that were clearly shopped(demon heads or whatever)

Huge wild/forest fires w/ tornadoes, which I agree is possible.

Like Paul is drunk said he has lots of experience. Never seen it. I’ve spent less time on a fire-ground then a lot of people, but I am still calling shenanigans until I see something for a reputable source.