@...dieAntagonista: seriously?? what in this fucking world i have to get you off of me. there is over 10.000 members here how hard is it to ignore me and leave me alone. don’t you get it in your little brain the game is over, the joke is finished, i don’t want to feed your 2-face delusional sadomasochistic ego needs every time i start a discussion with you. you don’t have a life? do you need so much attention you need to feed of me? prove me wrong and keep your stupid comments to yourself. what you want me to do? degrade my morals to step to your level of stupidity? don’t you see no end? what do you want. how hard is it to keep your fingers from typing. seriously what do i have have to tell YOU for you to leave me the fuck alone with your 7 year old games. grow a fucking life please.
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@...ColombianMonkey: Haha, I could show you like, at least 5 posts I made, that contain the exact same lines you said here.
@...dieAntagonista: score one for your assumption skills. you actually believe i took tsk from you lol. seriously lay off the extreme/exotic drugs. gives you good feeling at first but fucks your head in the long run.
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@...ColombianMonkey: Show me an older comment of yours when you used tsk. I bet 48 strawberries that you can’t find one.
I have never done any hard drugs, but maybe you should try some. They could help you with your 64 personalities.
@...ColombianMonkey: Simmer down. This is the internet, the grand hate machine. Everyone hates everyone else, someone, somewhere is insulting you right this very minute, probably for sport more than spite, and there’s nothing you can do.
Nothing except to hate and insult as much as your pretty little head can handle.
@...LukeV1-5: i don’t need to prove anything. it’s a word i use from time to time and doesn’t has to be this forum only and acting like she got a copyright on it r somethin. every word we say was made up by someone but you don’t see them going off like a bunch of seagulls saying “mine”.@...dieAntagonista: please get a detox, maybe would help you think clearly.
She’s not claiming she invented the word. She’s claiming that you’re imitating her use of the word on this forum. Which you very clearly are, as I’ve never seen you use it before, then DieA starts using it, then you start using it.
The dots, I have joined them.
And aren’t you the one who’s always like, “Oh, I am Colombian, we have piles of cocaine. See how we waste it.”
Disappointing. But you’re still better at it than me. Except the not being fluent in Irish, that’s just unacceptable. Or actually, is there just a small group of people in Ireland, that is fluent in Irish? Probably. However, I’m going to learn Irish sooner or later. A quirky pretend language like that has to have a home in my brain.
@...LukeV1-5: Also, as you pointed out somewhere else. He’s not the first to do that. What is going on. Am I really that magnificent.
@...dieAntagonista: There are two main problems, number one is that very few people I know (maybe 5%) are able to have a conversation in Irish.
Irish is a compulsary subject in school from age 5 to 18, and it is very difficult, as old phrases/adages and literature are part of the course. People get disillusioned very quickly and just don’t bother.
A more serious problem is that the number of people with total fluency is reducing. A few people still speak Irish all day as their first language, but very few young people speak it as their main household language.
@...LukeV1-5: have you ever heard of the word of misconception? she claims. I am the person who said the word and she has no proof that i chose to imitate her. just another assumption so she has something to type about.
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@...ColombianMonkey: And have you heard of bullshittery. You still haven’t shown me where you used the word tsk. I dare you, show me even one single post of yours. Of course I have no proof that you’re imitating me, but I have proof that you never used certain words/ terms until now. FOR SOME REASON.
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@...joodles: I see. That’s very sad, and I don’t like it at all.
But I guess it’s natural that people won’t bother with “traditional” things like that. Too bad. Though I will. I was already thinking of various ways of bringing Irish back. For example I could publish a collection of poems, in Irish. Become famous and all that, and everyone would recognise the beauty of Irish. Yeah that sounds plausible. No but seriously, I read somewhere that dozens of languages disappear every day, or something crazy like that. It doesn’t have to be like that.
I’m going to force my friend Ciarán to teach me Irish on a regular basis, right now.
“Irish is sexy” on boobs – flash people on the motorway, will do.
@...dieAntagonista: There are plenty of books and experts, it’s just that there are so many dialects, and so many millions of phrases, some are bound to die with the fluent native speakers.
See unemployment has always been really high in Irish-speaking areas, so people move to the city where they speak English all the time, that’s how it dies.
By all means learn some Irish, but unless Ciarán grew up speaking Irish in an Irish-speaking area and he teaches you everything he knows, you wouldn’t be doing a whole lot to preserve the language.
Some good phrases/adages, literally ‘old words’: www.beo.ie/seanfhocail/all.asp
Anyone who could teach you could only teach you the way it’s taught in school here.
That is to say, a fantastically stupid way.
And only like 4% of people speak it as a first language, I presume that people just say they can speak it fluently because they’ve spent so long learning it, and don’t think about it.
congrats living on the internet 24/7 and trying so much methods to make me look like the bad person.
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EVERYONE HERE IS MY WITNESS, since dieA has done such a good job at making me look like a asshole I never was, i made a simple solution to stop this little stupid game which is my proof i want out and to be left alone.
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I give you 2 options, everything what happens on from here depends on you.
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IF YOU DON’T LIKE WHAT I COMMENT REFRAIN FROM TYPING AND WALK AWAY. CLEARLY I DIDN’T ASK FOR YOUR CONCERN OR COMMENT SO YOU JUST WAISTING YOUR TIME ON ME. IF I ASK YOUR CONCERN OR COMMENT I WOULD QUOTE YOU!!! IF I DON’T, MIND YOUR BUSINESS. SO YOU CAN SPEND YOUR TIME ON SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE.
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and just to make sure we both understand.
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it proves you need mental help with your delusional social dysfunctional sadomasochistic half brain which feeds off people who clearly don’t give a shit about you. so if you feel offended by what i say DON’T EVER COMMENT ME IF I DIDN’T ASK.
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so IF YOU DO COMMENT ME YOU HEREBY AGREE TO EVERYONE THAT YOU “need mental help with your delusional social dysfunctional sadomasochistic half brain which feeds off people who clearly don’t give a shit about you.”
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no smartass comments, no excuses, no comebacks just CHOICE 1 OR CHOICE 2.
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Choice 1 = you say nothing to me not even now! and you prove me wrong what i say about you. and you stick to choice 1.
Choice 2 =say something now or ever to me and prove everyone i am correct and continue you stupid war with me.
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make your choice.
@...LukeV1-5: Fighting is ok, if it’s a proper argument, now they’re just poking fun at each other and hurting each other’s butts.
And I AM in the kitchen, cooking Polish dumplings.
and tomorrow evening, there shall be a post of cupcakes I baked.
Whisht.
@...joodles: @...LukeV1-5: @...dieAntagonista: @...ColombianMonkey:
Would like to thank you all from the sphincter of my heart. I just got back to work after being sick and as ill as I was, it is nothing compared to this shite.
But I read my email inbox and read the pointless argument that occurred and immediately felt better. Even my cup of tea is more delicious.
Special thanks goto Joodles and Luke for the spunky little comments of logic which were injected every time this got tedious. Cmonkey and DieA… Fight more often and try to be funnier. The funnier you are with your logic and arguments, the more people agree with you.
If gallileo (incorrectly spelt) had of made a racist joke whilst saying earth wasn’t the centre of the universe, he would have been hailed instead of put in jail..
ALso, sorry I spaced out elaborating on exactly why I think you are a masochist.
When I said it, I wasn’t really thinking it through all the way. Too a finite degree, everyone is a masochist, and there are definitely subtleties to everyone’s personalized versions.
In the case you mentioned, being insulted by people you don’t know, its not necessarily true that there is any emotional pain deriving from it, its more of a lack of control. The primary reasons sadism/masochism develop are out of control (or a lack thereof) complexes.
Since you seem to be a rather together, somewhat confident person, (I don’t/can’t know for certain, as I’ve never met you in person, and can’t just know by reading your body language), I would assume you have relatively decent self control.
As a result, when someone you’ve never met drops you an insult, you momentarily feel a loss of control, which, for you at least, feels sort of good.
Yeah it’s late but it’s fucking awesome. What a twist. Yeah I am pretty confident, though I know what you mean. You would have to go all body language reading on me to know for sure. I have read so many books on body language, it’s not even funny. So I am normal, but kind of not at the same time. Man I’m pretty fantastic.
Also, I’m really high on the things you said right now. I need to hang out with more psychologists. Do they all say dope things like this. I hope so.
ANd if that posts like three or four times, but slightly different each time, blame tiki, not me. it didn’t post the last three submissions, so I kept copying and pasting, and retyping the bits I missed.
@...dieAntagonista: Most of the colleagues in my practice are pretty dry and boring actually. They usually proscribe themselves to sit back and let the patient talk the whole session…. We disagree on certain ideological points. Lets leave it at that. They’d rather not work to make their money. Lazy fuckers.
And:
I’m bored, and my client is excessively easy to understand. She’s an addictive personality, and is attempting to articulate that she feels her husband doesn’t find her attractive any more, because he doesn’t take her anywhere. Dead serious. She doesn’t need a therapist, she needs a boyfriend to cheat on her husband with.
Yes, I did just say it. It’s the truth, and I’d bet at least $20 that by our fourth session she’ll say something to the tune of that.
BUT ANYWAYS:
Mostly since I’m bored, partially because I want to sex dieA, I’m going to analyze monkey. Because I can.
Because he’s easy to read, even without body language to back it up. And because he gets really agitated when people tell him he’s wrong, or try to make any assumptions about him.
@...ColombianMonkey:
“IF YOU DON’T LIKE WHAT I COMMENT REFRAIN FROM TYPING AND WALK AWAY. CLEARLY I DIDN’T ASK FOR YOUR CONCERN OR COMMENT SO YOU JUST WAISTING YOUR TIME ON ME. IF I ASK YOUR CONCERN OR COMMENT I WOULD QUOTE YOU!!! IF I DON’T, MIND YOUR BUSINESS. SO YOU CAN SPEND YOUR TIME ON SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE…..
it proves you need mental help with your delusional social dysfunctional sadomasochistic half brain which feeds off people who clearly don’t give a shit about you. so if you feel offended by what i say DON’T EVER COMMENT ME IF I DIDN’T ASK.”
…ok tiki, wtf is happening here? I just tried breaking it into several comments, none of which are sending.
And I tried sending it in an entire unbroken form, three times. That didn’t work either.
I had the same thing happen to me. And not just once. It seems like, the more eager I am to post my comment, the less likely it is that it’s going to get through. Science, man. You can try to repost it later, I can’t deny it, I’m itching to hear what you have to say.
So that’s too bad. Yeah I kind of expected the typical psychologist to be a snob. Not that, that wouldn’t be hot but you know what I mean.
And that’s extremely interesting. I can’t say that I wasn’t wondering if actual “experts” would be too proud to admit that something like cheating on your partner could “cure” their relationship. Something of that nature. I am kind of a social retard, so I don’t know too much about these things.
Also, I can’t help but be irrationally proud that a psychologist wants to sex me. So am I going to have to lie on your couch and then we play doctor or what.
@...dieAntagonista:
I’ve decided to stop trying, at least until tomorrow.
The worst part is that my lame ass complaints about not getting shit through went through, and not the actual content.
I would like to begin with a concept I buy into, because it seems to have worked on me and most of my clientele, which is the idea that people adopt the behavior that is projected on them.
A “good” example is the geek at the back of the classroom who everyone bullies and calls a gay. He futilely attempts to tell his agitators that he is not homosexual, and often will weave logical arguments to convince his tormentors otherwise.
Ultimately, any response at all gives validity to their teasing, because it acknowledges that it exists. This validity exists both for the tormentors and the tormented, so the tormentors keep tormenting and the tormented keep arguing against it.
Eventually, the result is that on a subconcious/ unconcious level. the geek begins to beleive he is homosexual. This bleed over into his conciousness, and he begins responding to gay stimuli. Sadly enough, there are two results: he accepts this or represses it; or he kills himself out of confusion and self-disgust.
The same principle applies here, but a slightly different case. (Of course)
We called monkey an illiterate, semi-psychotic freak, with deep insecurity issues.
He told us not to comment because he didn’t care. A weak argument which probably didn’t even convince him.
Apathy isn’t something you can prove via empirical argument: the very idea is that you don’t care, and thus don’t need to prove anything or respond. Which is really besides the point, but I was a debater, and old habits die hard.
He continued to insist he didn’t care, and attempting to insult the people who kept making fun of him. The end result is that he becomes what he argues he isn’t: someone who cares.
As we continue to call him out on it, he gets more and more agitated, to the point where he begins using expert terms to project his confused persona on us, in the hopes of demonizing it to get rid of it. Which doesn’t work.
So as we continue to bring attention to it, he gets more and more steamed. Regardless of the context its being portrayed in, he still gets a nice blast of fury rushing through his veins, to the point at which he probably doesn’t read the posts or opinions all the way through any more, and just responds to them in an assumed negative context, the predictable fuck.
By projecting that persona on him, he becomes it.
Albeit, since hes an adult and not an impressionable teen, it probably isn’t going to change his life much, but hey.
And now that I managed to get that out, I’m not all tweaked over it. @...dieAntagonista: Now I feel like playing doctor. (Growls erotically, and flips on stereo. “Lets get it on” fills the thread.) @...rest: Excuse us for a moment.
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Wow. Ok yeah I can see how that could work out. So is this a common thing. And what kind of people are immune to this. If it’s even possible.
This is probably going to piss Monkey off, but I can’t get over how fascinating it is. It makes me want to study psychology. Which I’m never going to, but I’m definitely going to finally read some of the very delicate pdf files I have on my hard drive. HOORAY FOR PIRACY.
“Apathy isn’t something you can prove via empirical argument: the very idea is that you don’t care, and thus don’t need to prove anything or respond. Which is really besides the point, but I was a debater, and old habits die hard.”
I enjoyed especially this part. Hey I like debating also. My friend from America said I should join a debating society but we don’t have that kind of thing here, which makes me very very sad.
And Monkey is 19 years old. So he’s still technically a teen. I’m sorry I’m just being childish.
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Also, even though I have never heard anyone growl, I can imagine it could be very sexy, but here’s the craziest part, this “Because I’m a sadistic semi-psychotic freak.” – got me all excited.
cool text Dr.Devine, It’s nice to see how it all comes out to be. But not to go against your expertise but the internet is a very futile place for “reading” people.
My dad won some money on the tellyvidgen a few years ago, so my arents were like, “Yeah, Luke will go to a private school, because it is obviously better”
But they were totally wrong.
My school has nothing. Hell, they had to fence off the back of the building because bits were falling off.
Well, it has an OK computer lab, and it teaches Latin.
But apart from that, it has fuck all. No debate teams, very few sports thingies, no clubs of any kind.
Whoa. I don’t know if you’ll believe me, but almost the same thing happened to me. There are a few differences though.
I was forced to go to a private school because the only other school rejected me because of my lack of religion. (I must have mentioned that 82 times on this site).
And so we also thought that the private school would be much better anyway. ‘Cause private schools are expensive and good, right. Right. Except this one. Several times a month, the classes would be held outside in the backyard, because there was some new huge crack in the wall somewhere and they were afraid the building would implode and kill the students. And teachers.
We had ninja nuns though. The computer lap was a joke and we had one classroom that was so tiny, you could almost reach both walls with your hands.
Too bad I don’t have a picture of it on my computer, but all buildings here are very baroque-ish. It looks kind of like this, except in white.
Good times. Seriously, this shitty school with a headmistress who would never shave her legs, and when they would take a picture of us for the newspaper because of some project she would always shove me in front of her so that they don’t have her hairy legs in a photo, made me a better person.
And mine was 8 grand a year. I don’t know how much that would be for you, but it’s a goddamn lot.
You’re awesome though. I have immense respect for fellow shitty private schoolers.
@...dieAntagonista: Yeah, 8 grand would be huge. See, my dad won 64k on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire, so that was the real reason. We only ended up with half of it, because my dad’s business accountant had been ripping him off for years, not paying the money my dad gave him to pay for his business’ tax to the taxman, and then he died, so we couldn’t be like, Man, where’s our cashy money.
My school is pretty shitty, and it doesn’t even have the bonus of looking nice like yours did. Once the roof fell in a bit in one of the classrooms, but the room was empty, so no one died. And very occasionally, a room will spontaneously fill with pigeons. The teachers are good though. One guy, Mr Corcoran, is super awesome, and he tried to row across the Atlantic last summer, but they had to call it off because their canoe thing broke.
Oh, and there’s Giant Polish Janitor, who was a doctor in Poland, but now is not a doctor. He could break you with his ear, he is that giant.
But anyway. If my dad hadn’t won, I’d have gone to Newpark, which, despite, or, more correctly, because of being a government run school, is fucking awesome. All shiny and modern. All the friends I have who go there are always like, “Sorry, won’t be out tonight, I have a debate on the value of Petrarch’s influence on the dawn of humanist Renaissance painters tomorrow that I have to prepare for, and also my Technology teacher is clearing some time for me in the computer lab so that I can finish inputting my quantum calculations into the number cruncher”.
And then the rest of my private school friends and I scrape together enough money to light a fire on the beach and get wasted.
But we can’t get properly drunk, because the way out of the beach is rocky and high up and sharp, and you have to keep an eye on the tide, so that you don’t drown, and besides, we couldn’t afford it.
But anyway, my school headmaster is awesome. He’s really, really thing, and he’s always wearing a black leather trenchcoat, so the suspicion is that he is in fact Boris Kalashnikov, infamous Eastern European assassin, secretly the brother of the king of Sweden.
But he’s retiring this year, because we had a new budget recently, the government I mean, and they were like, “Dude’s, we’re, uh, we’re going totax your pensions”.
And he was like, this budget is coming in in December.
I am getting the fuck out of my job before December.
Also, you know what’s annoying? Fees are usually 3 grand, but they’re tearing down the school and building a new one, all sleek and modern and fancy, so we’ve been paying of rit with bigger fees.
And they’re starting construction the summer I leave the school. What the hell, man.
Haha oh my, that is hilarious, exciting, romantic and tragic all at once.
Well for one, it’s pretty amazing that your father won, and sad that he got ripped off like that. I’m sorry.
But in all honesty, your school keeps getting better and better. I mean, rooms full of pigeons. Come on. How can you not find that dope. And Mr. Cocoran does sound like a fantastic person. My teachers were all strange quirky with questionable habits. Also, I had some weird connection with the majority of them, because they all live in the same small town as me. For example my English teacher, her eldest son is a skiing teacher. So a few years back when I took lessons together with his little sister, we were on the same bus on the way to some mountain, and I threw up on her. But not just casually, I threw up between the seats in front of me, right on her jacket. At first she didn’t notice because she was looking out the window.
I never liked her anyway.
And yeah, I can relate. The big yellow castle school one, I have friends who go there to school as well. And they would always say things like, so I said to Matthew- and I ask, wait, who’s Matthew? And they would say, Ah that’s one of the American exchange students. Anyway, so after we had this world famous orchestra play in the big hall, we were all invited by the mayor to explore old prisons under the church. etc.
Oh yeah, and one time, the Dalai Lama actually visited their school. I’m not even kidding. You could look this up probably and find out where I live exactly and everything, but I need to vent.
I also like the fire at beach thing. See, we don’t even have any beaches. And we have done something quite similar. Though it was at a river, and we were bullshitting around in some old ruins. I believe that’s when I smoked weed for the first time.
Your headmaster sounds amazing as well. Aw man. That’s so sad. It’s much worse for my school though. They’re going to close it probably.
Haha, yeah once again, this is incredibly ridiculous. So my old class, the classroom we had, was the worst of all. We had to renovate it. I can’t remember how, but they made us pay a lot of money to make it look all fancy. It was going to be the room. Where the headmistress would take parents if they were considering to send their kids there. So that happened the last year I went there, I had to pay and then leave. She’s a very shady and strict woman. But she’s the reason why I love mathematics and why I’m disciplined.
So there can be only one conclusion. The reason why you’re so interesting with a most precious personality, is because of your school. Oh yeah most definitely.
No one is immune, which is why I like the concept. Not even stone cold buddhist monks are immune. You find the right name to call them, and start doing it enough, and sure enough, long term damage appears. farm4.static.flickr.com/3620/3385859784_90b1704372.jpg
ANd this was my private school. ANd yes, this picture is indeed found as a part of it’s new “virtual tour”.
Probably the only liberal arts high school education in the great state of Utah. Excellent debate program.
And really? No debating society in Austria? That seems somewhat surprising to me…
To be fair, the countries with the more reputable programs/societies are France and Germany, but I figured there would be an Austrian team, so that the euro-circuit could have an underdog to kick around, and eventually see come out on top.
I have decided to jump the fence in this argument because CMonkey needs at least on gangsta such as me standing behind him shouting “Yeah!” after everything he says.
So here goes.
I have compeltely forgotted what the argument was about and lack the conviction, will and neccessary motivation to re-read the entire agrument so I will summarise what my lengthy, linguistic and self-righteous response would be to: I am right, You are wrong. This is why: You suck!
I think I win.
Yeah CMonkey! We REIGN! *fistbump offered*
@...Dr.Devine: i could pick up numerous reasons why you said it, even thou you already know what i said. but i rather hear from you instead. @...Putridity: lolwut??
….What?
I only asserted what, in my professional opinion, was occurring. And, no, the internet is actually a very good place to read people. Depending on how they phrase their writing, and their word choice, as well as their use of correct grammar and punctuation, can tell you an awful lot about people. Though reading people in person is easier, what with the body language and thousands of visual cues people give off, a person’s conversational writing style can often lend to analysis as well as any twitch, or eye contact.
Which is why the exercise was not futile. And why your response was predictable.
@...Dr.Devine: It is actually rather impressive that you are offering free advice to all of the denizens of this page. Or at least a select few. I must ask though, how does punctuation fall into play here? some cases such as mine fall into the bad punctuation for the sheer lack of understanding. I have been informed in the past I am over zealous with comma’s. How about the fact that people never show a true representation of thier public selves on the internet because of the safety in anonymity? Do all these things come into play and coult the plausibly throw your (probably the wrong term->) diagnosis of colombian monkey.
Hoepfully the above hasn’t seemed like an attempt at destroying the foundations of your statements I was just curious.
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Your school looks very pretty and American. I like it a lot.
And that’s incredibly nifty. I was always convinced that there had to be some kind of mastermind type person who would be immune.
About the debating society, I think you misunderstood me. I actually have no idea, if there’s an official one or anything. If there is, I have never heard of it. But none of the schools here have debating classes and things like that. My friend from America told me a lot about it, it sounds wonderful but they just don’t do anything like that here. It’s a shame. But I’m hoping to correct that as soon as I get to work as a lawyer.
Dr.Devine called CMonkey sadomasochistic, because he called me that in the first place after Dr.Devine said that I could be somewhat of a masochist. If you don’t see what he was trying to do and show there, just after he typed all those things out about how people will react to things like that, I don’t know what to say.
“Hoepfully the above hasn’t seemed like an attempt at destroying the foundations of your statements I was just curious.”
I like how you apologise for the very thing you were doing just after you obviously felt sorry for CMonkey.
Man, this is really fun and exquisite. I should be a psychologist.
@...Dr.Devine:Well, I understand where you’re coming from. I used to think like that all the time on the internet but the chance of being wrong of personal opinion is fairly easy, just saying.
@dieAntagonista: Really, I’ve been analyzing people since about sixth grade, and not much has changed in the way I diagnose. Its just now I have terms for what I’m communicating, which allows me to add depth to my analysis. You can do some basic level analysis of anyone you meet, degree or no.
The degree just means you can get paid for it.
And the bigger, more impressive degree you have, the more money people will pay to have you listen to them.
As I said before, I’m one of the select few in my field that actually makes assertions to patients and tells them what I glean from my analysis. In the hopes that they’ll actually attempt to change what they find wrong with themselves.
Really, they come to the conclusions themselves if you give them time, but since I’m not some lazy jackass who gets off on being paid to sit and do nothing while the person who hires me does the job they hired me for, just so I can charge them for longer.
Instead I’m competent.
And I offer free advice to ‘some” of the denizens of this page, mostly because I’m incredibly bored most of the time. Because the majority of my clients are easy to read, and I can understand everything I need to know about them personally in two sessions, understand the problem they came to me to solve in one, and give them a solution at the next one. And then have monthly check ups to see how its going with that solution.
@Putridity: Really, it’s not so much just an overuse of commas, but its the context the overuse falls in.
@Colombian:True, and yet, you don’t contradict me.
@nyokki:Sociopaths mostly, or “true” apathetic. And the sociopaths are easy to spot, because diagnostic methods for them are so well documented.
@...Dr.Devine:I don’t need to contradict you, because that’s not my purpose. I am searching for something. Just one teeny tiny characteristic personality of a person. Once i find it i can continue with my project. nothing more, nothing less.
Nice. Yeah I never really paid attention to humans until I got a book about body language at the library, by accident. Damn, I was so obsessed with it, the first months. You could have put me into a waiting room for days, and I would have just sat there, watching people talk, move, come in and out, for hours. Ever since I discovered the wonders of body language, I never get bored any more. It’s grand, I can only recommend it.
One thing I realised just recently, is that everyone is only talking about themselves. For example, when someone says, “I didn’t like that film, that man was really arrogant and so pretentious, etc”, what they’re really saying could be, “I’m so insecure and I’m afraid nobody is going to notice me anyway”. Of course this isn’t always the case, but it’s just so obvious that when people judge something or someone, they’re really only revealing things about themselves. (Including myself of course)
So your life sounds pretty exciting to me. Too bad it bores you, you should be enjoying it. No really, to me it sounds like something out of a film. I actually wrote a story about a psychologist like you. Except he’s married with children and he finds his life too perfect so he decides to take some very drastic actions to find out if this is really the right life for him.
Also, is it true that paranoia is an exaggerated form of ego?
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Oh yeah and, lulz.
CMonkey’s project, right.
Yeah actually, it’s pretty interesting. Apparently we’re his guinea pigs.
Puulaahi: where you from?
Immanuel: I’m ColombianMonkey
Puulaahi: ohhhh
Puulaahi lol
Immanuel: Emmanuel = middle name
Puulaahi: you like to change your nick dontcha
Immanuel: and if you click on my name
Immanuel: you see definition
Immanuel: of my name
Immanuel: well i like to proceed with harmless test
Immanuel: on people i’m cool with
Immanuel: push there buttons
Immanuel: see how far it goes
Colombian & terrible grammar.
The two may just be synonymous.
“on what more you spend your time thinking about me”
What?
And as for your “test”.
It sounds like illegitimate troll justification more than anything else.
And most trolls are only able to successfully maintain “apathy” because they maintain anonymity, as do the people around them. You on the other hand, are one of a familiar cast of characters, and you attempt to troll a group of people you are loosely aquatinted with. So, your test fails. As its not a test, its just you asserting an opinion. And besides, its completely irrelevant to your little freak-out I analyzed in the first place.
If you are referring to the freudian ego… I have a love-hate thing with freud. Though he is spot on on a lot of behavior and causality for that behavior, his causality for the causality–you argue with your mother—->this is due to tension with your mother—->So you want to sleep with her?
–Seems to sort of skip a few gaps in the logic chain.
And it really depends on what kind of paranoia it is.
Paranoia concerning people causing you, personally, physical or emotional damage, is to a degree expanding your ego. By saying you are in fact paranoid that you might get raped/murdered/hurt, you imply that you think you are attractive/interesting/important enough for those things to be worth doing. So in a twisted way…. yes.
Dr.Devine how can you ever analyze a person if you never stand neutral?
I’m sure if it wasn’t for the money you’d be asking more questions than making statements.
But since you’re Bored it doesn’t shine that you’re in for the knowledge, experience. doing a hobby/job with passion.
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troll? lol…you’re putting me in the wrong category my friend.
@...Dr.Devine:
Yup. it helps to have a friend that enjoys being much smarter than everyone else so heavily enjoys being able to edit my writings. 😀 @...dieAntagonista:
I didn’t really care about the situation the argument was about… I was just backing Cmonkey up for funsies. Not to troll or any somesuch, just to add a bit of background chatter on a lighter note to attempt to stop what was spiraling down into a stone throwing match 😀
I wasn’t attacking Devine’s statements. I was asking if people’s changes in personality due to lack of ramifications make diagnosing someone over the internet difficult. @...Dr.Devine:
I still didn’t get an answer. As far as I have been able to tell, people get overly brave when the possibility of a punch in the face gets removed from the equation. You know for a fact that in person this argument would have been ended with “let’s agree to disagree” or some other confrontation avoidance mechanism. So how can you accurately diagnose Cmonkey or anyone for that matter when you in essence, are probably just diagnosing the persona they take up once the ultimate confrontation(violence) is no longer a possibility?
@...dieAntagonista: seriously?? what in this fucking world i have to get you off of me. there is over 10.000 members here how hard is it to ignore me and leave me alone. don’t you get it in your little brain the game is over, the joke is finished, i don’t want to feed your 2-face delusional sadomasochistic ego needs every time i start a discussion with you. you don’t have a life? do you need so much attention you need to feed of me? prove me wrong and keep your stupid comments to yourself. what you want me to do? degrade my morals to step to your level of stupidity? don’t you see no end? what do you want. how hard is it to keep your fingers from typing. seriously what do i have have to tell YOU for you to leave me the fuck alone with your 7 year old games. grow a fucking life please.
@...ColombianMonkey: Haha, I could show you like, at least 5 posts I made, that contain the exact same lines you said here.
I have my first little mini me.
@...dieAntagonista: is okay i was already expecting it already. running away from the question, typical… tsk tsk tsk
@...ColombianMonkey: Remember the hermaphrodite thread? That’s exactly what Luke and I said to you. That you don’t answer the question.
#aspojuvAaöjfafh. Oh my fucking god, this is too good.
And you never said tsk until now. I always say tsk. I’m rolling on the floor right now.
You got more issues than a magazine.
@...dieAntagonista: score one for your assumption skills. you actually believe i took tsk from you lol. seriously lay off the extreme/exotic drugs. gives you good feeling at first but fucks your head in the long run.
@...ColombianMonkey: Show me an older comment of yours when you used tsk. I bet 48 strawberries that you can’t find one.
I have never done any hard drugs, but maybe you should try some. They could help you with your 64 personalities.
“You got more issues than a magazine”
I am totally stealing this from you, and there’s nothing you can do about it
@...dieAntagonista: I’ve been learning French for 6 years,as part of my school learnin’. And I’m still not fluent. It’s a bad system.
Especially when you consider I’ve been learning Irish for 12, and I’m not fluent in that, either.
@...nyokki: But can you play the zither?
Also: Woo!
@...ColombianMonkey: Simmer down. This is the internet, the grand hate machine. Everyone hates everyone else, someone, somewhere is insulting you right this very minute, probably for sport more than spite, and there’s nothing you can do.
Nothing except to hate and insult as much as your pretty little head can handle.
@...ColombianMonkey: In fairness dude, you don’t use tsk. Ever.
Now, as an aside:
THE BIBLE LIVES
@...LukeV1-5: i don’t need to prove anything. it’s a word i use from time to time and doesn’t has to be this forum only and acting like she got a copyright on it r somethin. every word we say was made up by someone but you don’t see them going off like a bunch of seagulls saying “mine”.@...dieAntagonista: please get a detox, maybe would help you think clearly.
She’s not claiming she invented the word. She’s claiming that you’re imitating her use of the word on this forum. Which you very clearly are, as I’ve never seen you use it before, then DieA starts using it, then you start using it.
The dots, I have joined them.
And aren’t you the one who’s always like, “Oh, I am Colombian, we have piles of cocaine. See how we waste it.”
@...LukeV1-5:
Oh you can rob me any time.
Disappointing. But you’re still better at it than me. Except the not being fluent in Irish, that’s just unacceptable. Or actually, is there just a small group of people in Ireland, that is fluent in Irish? Probably. However, I’m going to learn Irish sooner or later. A quirky pretend language like that has to have a home in my brain.
@...LukeV1-5: Also, as you pointed out somewhere else. He’s not the first to do that. What is going on. Am I really that magnificent.
@...ColombianMonkey:
A detox, yeah, but is that going to rob me of my mad grammar skills. If you had a detox, I won’t have one. That’s all I’m saying really.
Also, I killed 6 mosquitoes and harassed one child, today. That means it’s summer. And I’m drunk.
Is wine still good if you left the bottle open for a month? I mean, it won’t get mouldy or anything right.
@...dieAntagonista:
“1.7 million Irish citizens are either fluent or semi-fluent in Irish”
So about 40%.
@...LukeV1-5: A blatant lie.
@...joodles: AHA. I already assumed that that’s the case.
So what now. Is Irish dying. What can I do to help.
@...dieAntagonista: There are two main problems, number one is that very few people I know (maybe 5%) are able to have a conversation in Irish.
Irish is a compulsary subject in school from age 5 to 18, and it is very difficult, as old phrases/adages and literature are part of the course. People get disillusioned very quickly and just don’t bother.
A more serious problem is that the number of people with total fluency is reducing. A few people still speak Irish all day as their first language, but very few young people speak it as their main household language.
@...dieAntagonista: What can you do to help? I dunno, write ‘Irish is sexy’ on your boobs and flash people on the motorway.
@...LukeV1-5: have you ever heard of the word of misconception? she claims. I am the person who said the word and she has no proof that i chose to imitate her. just another assumption so she has something to type about.
@...ColombianMonkey: And have you heard of bullshittery. You still haven’t shown me where you used the word tsk. I dare you, show me even one single post of yours. Of course I have no proof that you’re imitating me, but I have proof that you never used certain words/ terms until now. FOR SOME REASON.
@...joodles: I see. That’s very sad, and I don’t like it at all.
But I guess it’s natural that people won’t bother with “traditional” things like that. Too bad. Though I will. I was already thinking of various ways of bringing Irish back. For example I could publish a collection of poems, in Irish. Become famous and all that, and everyone would recognise the beauty of Irish. Yeah that sounds plausible. No but seriously, I read somewhere that dozens of languages disappear every day, or something crazy like that. It doesn’t have to be like that.
I’m going to force my friend Ciarán to teach me Irish on a regular basis, right now.
“Irish is sexy” on boobs – flash people on the motorway, will do.
@...dieAntagonista: There are plenty of books and experts, it’s just that there are so many dialects, and so many millions of phrases, some are bound to die with the fluent native speakers.
See unemployment has always been really high in Irish-speaking areas, so people move to the city where they speak English all the time, that’s how it dies.
By all means learn some Irish, but unless Ciarán grew up speaking Irish in an Irish-speaking area and he teaches you everything he knows, you wouldn’t be doing a whole lot to preserve the language.
Some good phrases/adages, literally ‘old words’:
www.beo.ie/seanfhocail/all.asp
‘The fat person doesn’t understand the thin man, and if he does, it is usually too late.’ – lol.
Anyone who could teach you could only teach you the way it’s taught in school here.
That is to say, a fantastically stupid way.
And only like 4% of people speak it as a first language, I presume that people just say they can speak it fluently because they’ve spent so long learning it, and don’t think about it.
@...LukeV1-5: 4% sounds about right.
Seanfhocail ftw anyway, they’re the most fun way to learn some Irish.
congrats living on the internet 24/7 and trying so much methods to make me look like the bad person.
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EVERYONE HERE IS MY WITNESS, since dieA has done such a good job at making me look like a asshole I never was, i made a simple solution to stop this little stupid game which is my proof i want out and to be left alone.
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I give you 2 options, everything what happens on from here depends on you.
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IF YOU DON’T LIKE WHAT I COMMENT REFRAIN FROM TYPING AND WALK AWAY. CLEARLY I DIDN’T ASK FOR YOUR CONCERN OR COMMENT SO YOU JUST WAISTING YOUR TIME ON ME. IF I ASK YOUR CONCERN OR COMMENT I WOULD QUOTE YOU!!! IF I DON’T, MIND YOUR BUSINESS. SO YOU CAN SPEND YOUR TIME ON SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE.
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and just to make sure we both understand.
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it proves you need mental help with your delusional social dysfunctional sadomasochistic half brain which feeds off people who clearly don’t give a shit about you. so if you feel offended by what i say DON’T EVER COMMENT ME IF I DIDN’T ASK.
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so IF YOU DO COMMENT ME YOU HEREBY AGREE TO EVERYONE THAT YOU “need mental help with your delusional social dysfunctional sadomasochistic half brain which feeds off people who clearly don’t give a shit about you.”
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no smartass comments, no excuses, no comebacks just CHOICE 1 OR CHOICE 2.
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Choice 1 = you say nothing to me not even now! and you prove me wrong what i say about you. and you stick to choice 1.
Choice 2 =say something now or ever to me and prove everyone i am correct and continue you stupid war with me.
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make your choice.
just tired of your shit dieA and i want this to end.
Someone needs a hug….
…. if it’s any consolation, I don’t think you’re an asshole.
That’s silly, CM. You’re silly.
@...LukeV1-5: yes you are correct sir. i am silly.
lulz
I can do whatever I want Monkey, and there’s nothing you can do about that. You still got more issues than a magazine.
Butthurt Monkey is butthurt.
@...dieAntagonista: you can do what you want but you just acknowledge in your own words. good luck living that life. hope life fucks face you 🙂
“fucks face you”? What.
Hey, you’re the one who keeps replying to me. And you also keep commenting on the threads I created, in the forums.
Stop fighting why won’t you stop fighting, can’t everyone just get along for 5 minutes?
Aghhhhhhhhh!
@...joodles: The internet loses meaning if people are nice.
SO SHUT THE HELL UP AND GET BACK IN THE KITCHEN, WOMAN
And thus the balance is restored.
@...LukeV1-5: Fighting is ok, if it’s a proper argument, now they’re just poking fun at each other and hurting each other’s butts.
And I AM in the kitchen, cooking Polish dumplings.
and tomorrow evening, there shall be a post of cupcakes I baked.
Whisht.
@...joodles: @...LukeV1-5: @...dieAntagonista: @...ColombianMonkey:
Would like to thank you all from the sphincter of my heart. I just got back to work after being sick and as ill as I was, it is nothing compared to this shite.
But I read my email inbox and read the pointless argument that occurred and immediately felt better. Even my cup of tea is more delicious.
Special thanks goto Joodles and Luke for the spunky little comments of logic which were injected every time this got tedious. Cmonkey and DieA… Fight more often and try to be funnier. The funnier you are with your logic and arguments, the more people agree with you.
If gallileo (incorrectly spelt) had of made a racist joke whilst saying earth wasn’t the centre of the universe, he would have been hailed instead of put in jail..
😀
Lots of love,
Putridity.
Damnit! I should have said
“Hailed instead of Jailed”
Could have rhymed and everything.
@...Putridity: That would have been too awesome.
The tubes, they are only under warranty up to 40 Awesome.
HEY
I could type out another Iron Maiden song, if people feel that is necessary.
Perhaps Fortunes of War.
You have been warned.
You know what? It isn’t necessary.
MEN AND WOMEN OF BIBLE TOWN, REJOICE
WE HAVE SUCCEEDED IN OUR QUEST!
Moldy Bible is #1 and #2 on Top Commented Posts For All Time.
On the other hand only 7 people have rated this one and 42 on the original.
@...nyokki: And yet, I feel like we’ve really accomplished something here.
@...LukeV1-5: We’ve also found out that you can’t force a thread.
@...nyokki: yes you can 😛
@...nyokki: Is that not what we just did?
I think I may be working to a different program to you.
Alright, this thread seems to have died. SO.
The doctor has arrived with medication.
Albeit disgusting nasty horrid medicine.
But medicine nonetheless.
And with that, I leave this here.
www.tuckermax.com/archives/entries/date/tucker_tries_buttsex_hilarity_does_not_ensue.phtml#278
And ask you to discuss.
ALso, sorry I spaced out elaborating on exactly why I think you are a masochist.
When I said it, I wasn’t really thinking it through all the way. Too a finite degree, everyone is a masochist, and there are definitely subtleties to everyone’s personalized versions.
In the case you mentioned, being insulted by people you don’t know, its not necessarily true that there is any emotional pain deriving from it, its more of a lack of control. The primary reasons sadism/masochism develop are out of control (or a lack thereof) complexes.
Since you seem to be a rather together, somewhat confident person, (I don’t/can’t know for certain, as I’ve never met you in person, and can’t just know by reading your body language), I would assume you have relatively decent self control.
As a result, when someone you’ve never met drops you an insult, you momentarily feel a loss of control, which, for you at least, feels sort of good.
Sorry this was so fucking late….
That last bit was directed @dieAntagonista.
@...Dr.Devine: nice anal experience. talk about a story for Christmas.
@...Dr.Devine:
Yeah it’s late but it’s fucking awesome. What a twist. Yeah I am pretty confident, though I know what you mean. You would have to go all body language reading on me to know for sure. I have read so many books on body language, it’s not even funny. So I am normal, but kind of not at the same time. Man I’m pretty fantastic.
Also, I’m really high on the things you said right now. I need to hang out with more psychologists. Do they all say dope things like this. I hope so.
ANd if that posts like three or four times, but slightly different each time, blame tiki, not me. it didn’t post the last three submissions, so I kept copying and pasting, and retyping the bits I missed.
@...dieAntagonista: Most of the colleagues in my practice are pretty dry and boring actually. They usually proscribe themselves to sit back and let the patient talk the whole session…. We disagree on certain ideological points. Lets leave it at that. They’d rather not work to make their money. Lazy fuckers.
And:
I’m bored, and my client is excessively easy to understand. She’s an addictive personality, and is attempting to articulate that she feels her husband doesn’t find her attractive any more, because he doesn’t take her anywhere. Dead serious. She doesn’t need a therapist, she needs a boyfriend to cheat on her husband with.
Yes, I did just say it. It’s the truth, and I’d bet at least $20 that by our fourth session she’ll say something to the tune of that.
BUT ANYWAYS:
Mostly since I’m bored, partially because I want to sex dieA, I’m going to analyze monkey. Because I can.
Because he’s easy to read, even without body language to back it up. And because he gets really agitated when people tell him he’s wrong, or try to make any assumptions about him.
@...ColombianMonkey:
“IF YOU DON’T LIKE WHAT I COMMENT REFRAIN FROM TYPING AND WALK AWAY. CLEARLY I DIDN’T ASK FOR YOUR CONCERN OR COMMENT SO YOU JUST WAISTING YOUR TIME ON ME. IF I ASK YOUR CONCERN OR COMMENT I WOULD QUOTE YOU!!! IF I DON’T, MIND YOUR BUSINESS. SO YOU CAN SPEND YOUR TIME ON SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE…..
it proves you need mental help with your delusional social dysfunctional sadomasochistic half brain which feeds off people who clearly don’t give a shit about you. so if you feel offended by what i say DON’T EVER COMMENT ME IF I DIDN’T ASK.”
…ok tiki, wtf is happening here? I just tried breaking it into several comments, none of which are sending.
And I tried sending it in an entire unbroken form, three times. That didn’t work either.
…..damn it.
@...Dr.Devine:
I had the same thing happen to me. And not just once. It seems like, the more eager I am to post my comment, the less likely it is that it’s going to get through. Science, man. You can try to repost it later, I can’t deny it, I’m itching to hear what you have to say.
So that’s too bad. Yeah I kind of expected the typical psychologist to be a snob. Not that, that wouldn’t be hot but you know what I mean.
And that’s extremely interesting. I can’t say that I wasn’t wondering if actual “experts” would be too proud to admit that something like cheating on your partner could “cure” their relationship. Something of that nature. I am kind of a social retard, so I don’t know too much about these things.
Also, I can’t help but be irrationally proud that a psychologist wants to sex me. So am I going to have to lie on your couch and then we play doctor or what.
@...dieAntagonista:
I’ve decided to stop trying, at least until tomorrow.
The worst part is that my lame ass complaints about not getting shit through went through, and not the actual content.
@...dieAntagonista:
And now that you made it too easy, no. No we aren’t.
Because I’m a sadistic semi-psychotic freak. 😀
I would like to begin with a concept I buy into, because it seems to have worked on me and most of my clientele, which is the idea that people adopt the behavior that is projected on them.
YESSSSS
I’VE GOT IT!
I have to wait about three minutes in between posts.
Awwww.
Still doesn’t work. I thought I had a formula going…
A “good” example is the geek at the back of the classroom who everyone bullies and calls a gay. He futilely attempts to tell his agitators that he is not homosexual, and often will weave logical arguments to convince his tormentors otherwise.
Ultimately, any response at all gives validity to their teasing, because it acknowledges that it exists. This validity exists both for the tormentors and the tormented, so the tormentors keep tormenting and the tormented keep arguing against it.
Eventually, the result is that on a subconcious/ unconcious level. the geek begins to beleive he is homosexual. This bleed over into his conciousness, and he begins responding to gay stimuli. Sadly enough, there are two results: he accepts this or represses it; or he kills himself out of confusion and self-disgust.
The same principle applies here, but a slightly different case. (Of course)
We called monkey an illiterate, semi-psychotic freak, with deep insecurity issues.
He told us not to comment because he didn’t care. A weak argument which probably didn’t even convince him.
Apathy isn’t something you can prove via empirical argument: the very idea is that you don’t care, and thus don’t need to prove anything or respond. Which is really besides the point, but I was a debater, and old habits die hard.
He continued to insist he didn’t care, and attempting to insult the people who kept making fun of him. The end result is that he becomes what he argues he isn’t: someone who cares.
As we continue to call him out on it, he gets more and more agitated, to the point where he begins using expert terms to project his confused persona on us, in the hopes of demonizing it to get rid of it. Which doesn’t work.
So as we continue to bring attention to it, he gets more and more steamed. Regardless of the context its being portrayed in, he still gets a nice blast of fury rushing through his veins, to the point at which he probably doesn’t read the posts or opinions all the way through any more, and just responds to them in an assumed negative context, the predictable fuck.
By projecting that persona on him, he becomes it.
Albeit, since hes an adult and not an impressionable teen, it probably isn’t going to change his life much, but hey.
And that is all that I had copied before tiki’s server decided to shit on me.
And now that I managed to get that out, I’m not all tweaked over it. @...dieAntagonista: Now I feel like playing doctor. (Growls erotically, and flips on stereo. “Lets get it on” fills the thread.)
@...rest: Excuse us for a moment.
Wow. Ok yeah I can see how that could work out. So is this a common thing. And what kind of people are immune to this. If it’s even possible.
This is probably going to piss Monkey off, but I can’t get over how fascinating it is. It makes me want to study psychology. Which I’m never going to, but I’m definitely going to finally read some of the very delicate pdf files I have on my hard drive. HOORAY FOR PIRACY.
“Apathy isn’t something you can prove via empirical argument: the very idea is that you don’t care, and thus don’t need to prove anything or respond. Which is really besides the point, but I was a debater, and old habits die hard.”
I enjoyed especially this part. Hey I like debating also. My friend from America said I should join a debating society but we don’t have that kind of thing here, which makes me very very sad.
And Monkey is 19 years old. So he’s still technically a teen. I’m sorry I’m just being childish.
Also, even though I have never heard anyone growl, I can imagine it could be very sexy, but here’s the craziest part, this “Because I’m a sadistic semi-psychotic freak.” – got me all excited.
I’m twisted. I need a corkscrew.
cool text Dr.Devine, It’s nice to see how it all comes out to be. But not to go against your expertise but the internet is a very futile place for “reading” people.
@...dieAntagonista: Dude, I know the pain of not having a debate team.
My dad won some money on the tellyvidgen a few years ago, so my arents were like, “Yeah, Luke will go to a private school, because it is obviously better”
But they were totally wrong.
My school has nothing. Hell, they had to fence off the back of the building because bits were falling off.
Well, it has an OK computer lab, and it teaches Latin.
But apart from that, it has fuck all. No debate teams, very few sports thingies, no clubs of any kind.
4 grand a year for the bare minimum.
@...LukeV1-5:
Whoa. I don’t know if you’ll believe me, but almost the same thing happened to me. There are a few differences though.
I was forced to go to a private school because the only other school rejected me because of my lack of religion. (I must have mentioned that 82 times on this site).
And so we also thought that the private school would be much better anyway. ‘Cause private schools are expensive and good, right. Right. Except this one. Several times a month, the classes would be held outside in the backyard, because there was some new huge crack in the wall somewhere and they were afraid the building would implode and kill the students. And teachers.
We had ninja nuns though. The computer lap was a joke and we had one classroom that was so tiny, you could almost reach both walls with your hands.
Too bad I don’t have a picture of it on my computer, but all buildings here are very baroque-ish. It looks kind of like this, except in white.
Good times. Seriously, this shitty school with a headmistress who would never shave her legs, and when they would take a picture of us for the newspaper because of some project she would always shove me in front of her so that they don’t have her hairy legs in a photo, made me a better person.
And mine was 8 grand a year. I don’t know how much that would be for you, but it’s a goddamn lot.
You’re awesome though. I have immense respect for fellow shitty private schoolers.
@...dieAntagonista: Yeah, 8 grand would be huge. See, my dad won 64k on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire, so that was the real reason. We only ended up with half of it, because my dad’s business accountant had been ripping him off for years, not paying the money my dad gave him to pay for his business’ tax to the taxman, and then he died, so we couldn’t be like, Man, where’s our cashy money.
My school is pretty shitty, and it doesn’t even have the bonus of looking nice like yours did. Once the roof fell in a bit in one of the classrooms, but the room was empty, so no one died. And very occasionally, a room will spontaneously fill with pigeons. The teachers are good though. One guy, Mr Corcoran, is super awesome, and he tried to row across the Atlantic last summer, but they had to call it off because their canoe thing broke.
Oh, and there’s Giant Polish Janitor, who was a doctor in Poland, but now is not a doctor. He could break you with his ear, he is that giant.
But anyway. If my dad hadn’t won, I’d have gone to Newpark, which, despite, or, more correctly, because of being a government run school, is fucking awesome. All shiny and modern. All the friends I have who go there are always like, “Sorry, won’t be out tonight, I have a debate on the value of Petrarch’s influence on the dawn of humanist Renaissance painters tomorrow that I have to prepare for, and also my Technology teacher is clearing some time for me in the computer lab so that I can finish inputting my quantum calculations into the number cruncher”.
And then the rest of my private school friends and I scrape together enough money to light a fire on the beach and get wasted.
But we can’t get properly drunk, because the way out of the beach is rocky and high up and sharp, and you have to keep an eye on the tide, so that you don’t drown, and besides, we couldn’t afford it.
But anyway, my school headmaster is awesome. He’s really, really thing, and he’s always wearing a black leather trenchcoat, so the suspicion is that he is in fact Boris Kalashnikov, infamous Eastern European assassin, secretly the brother of the king of Sweden.
But he’s retiring this year, because we had a new budget recently, the government I mean, and they were like, “Dude’s, we’re, uh, we’re going totax your pensions”.
And he was like, this budget is coming in in December.
I am getting the fuck out of my job before December.
Also, you know what’s annoying? Fees are usually 3 grand, but they’re tearing down the school and building a new one, all sleek and modern and fancy, so we’ve been paying of rit with bigger fees.
And they’re starting construction the summer I leave the school. What the hell, man.
Soo…yeah.
We are very good at rugby, though.
@...LukeV1-5:
Haha oh my, that is hilarious, exciting, romantic and tragic all at once.
Well for one, it’s pretty amazing that your father won, and sad that he got ripped off like that. I’m sorry.
But in all honesty, your school keeps getting better and better. I mean, rooms full of pigeons. Come on. How can you not find that dope. And Mr. Cocoran does sound like a fantastic person. My teachers were all strange quirky with questionable habits. Also, I had some weird connection with the majority of them, because they all live in the same small town as me. For example my English teacher, her eldest son is a skiing teacher. So a few years back when I took lessons together with his little sister, we were on the same bus on the way to some mountain, and I threw up on her. But not just casually, I threw up between the seats in front of me, right on her jacket. At first she didn’t notice because she was looking out the window.
I never liked her anyway.
And yeah, I can relate. The big yellow castle school one, I have friends who go there to school as well. And they would always say things like, so I said to Matthew- and I ask, wait, who’s Matthew? And they would say, Ah that’s one of the American exchange students. Anyway, so after we had this world famous orchestra play in the big hall, we were all invited by the mayor to explore old prisons under the church. etc.
Oh yeah, and one time, the Dalai Lama actually visited their school. I’m not even kidding. You could look this up probably and find out where I live exactly and everything, but I need to vent.
I also like the fire at beach thing. See, we don’t even have any beaches. And we have done something quite similar. Though it was at a river, and we were bullshitting around in some old ruins. I believe that’s when I smoked weed for the first time.
Your headmaster sounds amazing as well. Aw man. That’s so sad. It’s much worse for my school though. They’re going to close it probably.
Haha, yeah once again, this is incredibly ridiculous. So my old class, the classroom we had, was the worst of all. We had to renovate it. I can’t remember how, but they made us pay a lot of money to make it look all fancy. It was going to be the room. Where the headmistress would take parents if they were considering to send their kids there. So that happened the last year I went there, I had to pay and then leave. She’s a very shady and strict woman. But she’s the reason why I love mathematics and why I’m disciplined.
So there can be only one conclusion. The reason why you’re so interesting with a most precious personality, is because of your school. Oh yeah most definitely.
No one is immune, which is why I like the concept. Not even stone cold buddhist monks are immune. You find the right name to call them, and start doing it enough, and sure enough, long term damage appears.
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ANd this was my private school. ANd yes, this picture is indeed found as a part of it’s new “virtual tour”.
Probably the only liberal arts high school education in the great state of Utah. Excellent debate program.
And really? No debating society in Austria? That seems somewhat surprising to me…
To be fair, the countries with the more reputable programs/societies are France and Germany, but I figured there would be an Austrian team, so that the euro-circuit could have an underdog to kick around, and eventually see come out on top.
And monkey…. oh nevermind.
After all, what’s a guy going to say to a sadomasochistic illiterate?
I have decided to jump the fence in this argument because CMonkey needs at least on gangsta such as me standing behind him shouting “Yeah!” after everything he says.
So here goes.
I have compeltely forgotted what the argument was about and lack the conviction, will and neccessary motivation to re-read the entire agrument so I will summarise what my lengthy, linguistic and self-righteous response would be to: I am right, You are wrong. This is why: You suck!
I think I win.
Yeah CMonkey! We REIGN! *fistbump offered*
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@...Dr.Devine: i could pick up numerous reasons why you said it, even thou you already know what i said. but i rather hear from you instead.
@...Putridity: lolwut??
@...ColombianMonkey: YEAH!!!!
@...Dr.Devine: You got burned babeh!!!!
@...ColombianMonkey: *fistbump*
I am an excellent krew member.
See me represent!
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….What?
I only asserted what, in my professional opinion, was occurring. And, no, the internet is actually a very good place to read people. Depending on how they phrase their writing, and their word choice, as well as their use of correct grammar and punctuation, can tell you an awful lot about people. Though reading people in person is easier, what with the body language and thousands of visual cues people give off, a person’s conversational writing style can often lend to analysis as well as any twitch, or eye contact.
Which is why the exercise was not futile. And why your response was predictable.
@...Dr.Devine: It is actually rather impressive that you are offering free advice to all of the denizens of this page. Or at least a select few. I must ask though, how does punctuation fall into play here? some cases such as mine fall into the bad punctuation for the sheer lack of understanding. I have been informed in the past I am over zealous with comma’s. How about the fact that people never show a true representation of thier public selves on the internet because of the safety in anonymity? Do all these things come into play and coult the plausibly throw your (probably the wrong term->) diagnosis of colombian monkey.
Hoepfully the above hasn’t seemed like an attempt at destroying the foundations of your statements I was just curious.
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@...Dr.Devine: What type of person would have an un-predictable response?
@...Dr.Devine:
Your school looks very pretty and American. I like it a lot.
And that’s incredibly nifty. I was always convinced that there had to be some kind of mastermind type person who would be immune.
About the debating society, I think you misunderstood me. I actually have no idea, if there’s an official one or anything. If there is, I have never heard of it. But none of the schools here have debating classes and things like that. My friend from America told me a lot about it, it sounds wonderful but they just don’t do anything like that here. It’s a shame. But I’m hoping to correct that as soon as I get to work as a lawyer.
@...Putridity:
Dr.Devine called CMonkey sadomasochistic, because he called me that in the first place after Dr.Devine said that I could be somewhat of a masochist. If you don’t see what he was trying to do and show there, just after he typed all those things out about how people will react to things like that, I don’t know what to say.
“Hoepfully the above hasn’t seemed like an attempt at destroying the foundations of your statements I was just curious.”
I like how you apologise for the very thing you were doing just after you obviously felt sorry for CMonkey.
Man, this is really fun and exquisite. I should be a psychologist.
@...Dr.Devine:Well, I understand where you’re coming from. I used to think like that all the time on the internet but the chance of being wrong of personal opinion is fairly easy, just saying.
@dieAntagonista: Really, I’ve been analyzing people since about sixth grade, and not much has changed in the way I diagnose. Its just now I have terms for what I’m communicating, which allows me to add depth to my analysis. You can do some basic level analysis of anyone you meet, degree or no.
The degree just means you can get paid for it.
And the bigger, more impressive degree you have, the more money people will pay to have you listen to them.
As I said before, I’m one of the select few in my field that actually makes assertions to patients and tells them what I glean from my analysis. In the hopes that they’ll actually attempt to change what they find wrong with themselves.
Really, they come to the conclusions themselves if you give them time, but since I’m not some lazy jackass who gets off on being paid to sit and do nothing while the person who hires me does the job they hired me for, just so I can charge them for longer.
Instead I’m competent.
And I offer free advice to ‘some” of the denizens of this page, mostly because I’m incredibly bored most of the time. Because the majority of my clients are easy to read, and I can understand everything I need to know about them personally in two sessions, understand the problem they came to me to solve in one, and give them a solution at the next one. And then have monthly check ups to see how its going with that solution.
@Putridity: Really, it’s not so much just an overuse of commas, but its the context the overuse falls in.
@Colombian:True, and yet, you don’t contradict me.
@nyokki:Sociopaths mostly, or “true” apathetic. And the sociopaths are easy to spot, because diagnostic methods for them are so well documented.
@...Dr.Devine:I don’t need to contradict you, because that’s not my purpose. I am searching for something. Just one teeny tiny characteristic personality of a person. Once i find it i can continue with my project. nothing more, nothing less.
@...ColombianMonkey: Your project is stupid, I suggest you halt it.
@...Dr.Devine:
Nice. Yeah I never really paid attention to humans until I got a book about body language at the library, by accident. Damn, I was so obsessed with it, the first months. You could have put me into a waiting room for days, and I would have just sat there, watching people talk, move, come in and out, for hours. Ever since I discovered the wonders of body language, I never get bored any more. It’s grand, I can only recommend it.
One thing I realised just recently, is that everyone is only talking about themselves. For example, when someone says, “I didn’t like that film, that man was really arrogant and so pretentious, etc”, what they’re really saying could be, “I’m so insecure and I’m afraid nobody is going to notice me anyway”. Of course this isn’t always the case, but it’s just so obvious that when people judge something or someone, they’re really only revealing things about themselves. (Including myself of course)
So your life sounds pretty exciting to me. Too bad it bores you, you should be enjoying it. No really, to me it sounds like something out of a film. I actually wrote a story about a psychologist like you. Except he’s married with children and he finds his life too perfect so he decides to take some very drastic actions to find out if this is really the right life for him.
Also, is it true that paranoia is an exaggerated form of ego?
Oh yeah and, lulz.
CMonkey’s project, right.
Yeah actually, it’s pretty interesting. Apparently we’re his guinea pigs.
Puulaahi: where you from?
Immanuel: I’m ColombianMonkey
Puulaahi: ohhhh
Puulaahi lol
Immanuel: Emmanuel = middle name
Puulaahi: you like to change your nick dontcha
Immanuel: and if you click on my name
Immanuel: you see definition
Immanuel: of my name
Immanuel: well i like to proceed with harmless test
Immanuel: on people i’m cool with
Immanuel: push there buttons
Immanuel: see how far it goes
I’m blushing that you think about me everyday. We should meet.
my mind craves to know on what more you spend your time thinking about me ^_^
Colombian & terrible grammar.
The two may just be synonymous.
“on what more you spend your time thinking about me”
What?
And as for your “test”.
It sounds like illegitimate troll justification more than anything else.
And most trolls are only able to successfully maintain “apathy” because they maintain anonymity, as do the people around them. You on the other hand, are one of a familiar cast of characters, and you attempt to troll a group of people you are loosely aquatinted with. So, your test fails. As its not a test, its just you asserting an opinion. And besides, its completely irrelevant to your little freak-out I analyzed in the first place.
If you are referring to the freudian ego… I have a love-hate thing with freud. Though he is spot on on a lot of behavior and causality for that behavior, his causality for the causality–you argue with your mother—->this is due to tension with your mother—->So you want to sleep with her?
–Seems to sort of skip a few gaps in the logic chain.
And it really depends on what kind of paranoia it is.
Paranoia concerning people causing you, personally, physical or emotional damage, is to a degree expanding your ego. By saying you are in fact paranoid that you might get raped/murdered/hurt, you imply that you think you are attractive/interesting/important enough for those things to be worth doing. So in a twisted way…. yes.
Dr.Devine how can you ever analyze a person if you never stand neutral?
I’m sure if it wasn’t for the money you’d be asking more questions than making statements.
But since you’re Bored it doesn’t shine that you’re in for the knowledge, experience. doing a hobby/job with passion.
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troll? lol…you’re putting me in the wrong category my friend.
@...Dr.Devine:
Yup. it helps to have a friend that enjoys being much smarter than everyone else so heavily enjoys being able to edit my writings. 😀
@...dieAntagonista:
I didn’t really care about the situation the argument was about… I was just backing Cmonkey up for funsies. Not to troll or any somesuch, just to add a bit of background chatter on a lighter note to attempt to stop what was spiraling down into a stone throwing match 😀
I wasn’t attacking Devine’s statements. I was asking if people’s changes in personality due to lack of ramifications make diagnosing someone over the internet difficult.
@...Dr.Devine:
I still didn’t get an answer. As far as I have been able to tell, people get overly brave when the possibility of a punch in the face gets removed from the equation. You know for a fact that in person this argument would have been ended with “let’s agree to disagree” or some other confrontation avoidance mechanism. So how can you accurately diagnose Cmonkey or anyone for that matter when you in essence, are probably just diagnosing the persona they take up once the ultimate confrontation(violence) is no longer a possibility?
Lots of love,
Putri.