@...venek: Hear hear. That means we have already 3 vegans on the site. You, RSI and me. Awesomesauce.

@...Annarchy: No way. Is that true? How sweet is that. The more the merrier! Also, the more I learn about you, the more awesome you get.

I don’t even know if I count as a vegan yet. I hesitate to tell people, because the usual answer I get is, what? You have been vegan for only 6 months? Oh it’s just a phase.

But I haven’t eaten any meat or fish since I was 13 so that counts I’m sure.

@...Annarchy:
Aw. Ditto. And being put together with nyokki makes me feel all proud also.

Yes I agree with you, but to most people it’s absurd to be vegan and they think it’s impossible to survive like that.

I know for a fact that not every person is built that way, to be healthy on a vegan diet. It’s especially hard without the milk and fish products. It’s hard for the body to get vitamin B12 without those.

For example, I have a neighbour who tried it for a few months. She gained 10 pounds and didn’t feel good at all. Then there’s a lady from Australia I know, she did it for one year, is very toned, her hair stopped falling out and she feels great.

@...Annarchy:
Indeed. Although I’m a vegan for environmental reasons, mostly. Most people assume that means I’m a hardcore fundamentalist environmentalist and that I think everyone should become vegan. The most difficult part about being vegan is explaining yourself.

@...x:
Hooray. Tempeh sounds good. I just discovered it. But I doubt they sell it here.
To be honest I’m not a huge tofu & co fan. I mean they’re good every now and then, but I don’t eat more of it then I ate at any other time.

Actually, I don’t think killing animals is cruel. It’s nature. Animals kill each other for food also, why is it wrong if humans, just another kind of animal, do the same?

The real problem is mass production. We kill more than we eat, and we do it in the most horrible ways. Now I have no problem with Joe who has his own farm, a few cows and pigs.
But then you have Tom who is a greedy fucking bastard, and abuses this source to make as much money as possible.

So my point is, Tom sucks. Hard.

@...Sticky:

Of all the arguments you could have picked, you picked the one that isn’t true haha. We are not designed to eat meat. We are designed to eat fruits, nuts and vegetables. On the other hand, humans wouldn’t be what they are today, without meat. But technically, the majority of the population could survive perfectly without meat. The only problem is that it’s difficult to get enough protein without meat.

And then there’s the fact that a lot of people consider meat part of their culture, like you said.

Also, I have cooked with meat for friends when they came over. Still do. I’m not a snob or anything.

But yea, food is only fuel, nothing more nothing less. I eat to keep alive, not because it tastes good. And I admit, eating a vegan diet is not very spectacular. But it does feel good, to know that you’re not supporting this system that ruins this planet one bite at a time.

It’s not just us hippies who think that way either.
RSIxidor sent me this link about the German government. They have announced that it would be better if the people were to eat meat just for special occasions, and not every single day.

I commented before I saw your last comment.

“but it’s one that will endure until the end of time”

I doubt that. All it needs for those people who can afford to cut back on the meat is one big horrible event. Which may be closer than one would assume.

Trust me, when people start to feel really threatened, they will learn to survive with little meat way quicker than you would think.

@...Sticky:
Uh, I haven’t eaten any tofu in months. And I’m doing fine. These meat replacement things, are not actually necessary. They just make it easier. And yeah I know, don’t worry. I’m not trying to tell you you should stop eating meat. Just that it’s perfectly normal and natural.

I mean just look at elephants. They’re huge, and they get their protein only from plants. I think these meat replacement foods are just being used to make some more money.

Oh god. Everyone turns into another greedy Tom for me. What is wrong with me.

@...Sticky:

Haha, if you read ALL OF my comments you’d know. Here.

I’m sorry I got stuff to do. ):

Soon. I promise.

@...CathyLong:

Wow. I applaud you. When I was little, I used to help my grandmother kill chickens. It was quite the adventure. But besides that, I’ve never killed anything. Wait, people’s egos don’t count as an animal right?
Oh yeah totally, I know that most people are aware. It’s not about the killing, it’s about what it does to the environment. People still don’t see the connection.

@...gx5000:

Thank you good sir. Haha Dennis Leary. What a guy.

@...Sticky: Oh snap. I’m a monster.