You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. (Lincoln quote)
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Amen.
Lincoln was a gangsta.
Honorable words.
WORD UP.
Lincoln is my homeboy.
Lincoln was a gayman. It’s true I’m watching something on the History Channel about it. But yeah, true words. Long live the Republic!
I wish he were president…..right now, fuck obama!!!!
@...nobody knows: HEY YOU CAN’T TALK THAT WAY ABOUT THE PRESIDENT. GO EASY ON HIM HE’S ONLY BEEN IN OFFICE FOR TWO MONTHS!*
* Unless, he is affiliated with the republican party in any way shape or form or is not a member of the Democratic Party of America.
He was a republican… and all I heard was “blah blah blah… the rich need to get richer”… Sounds like a bunch of status quo crap to me.
@...thelotuseater725:
Your rigth its been a dream with all of this economic success.
According my quick google research, the author of the quote is William J. H. Boetcker, not Lincoln.
www.quotationspage.com/quote/29645.html
(According to another page, it was Reagan who wrongly attributed it to Abe.)
Pretty good quote nonetheless.
Regardless, it is the complete and utter truth of a Deomcratic and Capitalist system, and the core of conservatism. We can no longer punish success and reward failure. Distribution of wealth is a system that has failed over and over again.
Why hello there. I am a dirty socialist. So far, my fellow dirty socialists and I are doing just fine.
Most of them are actually conservative republicans, but for some unorthodox reason, people agree that this system works.
For instance, we had no bailouts. Life is sweet.
@...dieAntagonista: Um..you have no banks.
“The false attribution of preferred quotation to more respectable speakers is the mark of a fool at best and a liar at worst. In other words, any asshole on the internet can pull whatever he wants out of his ass, say that some historical hero said it instead of the random douche that actually said it, then simply say ‘FTW’ because you’ve hijacked the earned respect of a great figure for your dumbass cause of the week.”
– Mahatma Gandhi, 1869-1948
@...dieAntagonista:
can i come live with you?
@...the3g_ipwn: That’s all? I thought you were going to rip my head off, only metaphorically of course.
Everyone knows authentic hippies don’t own wallets. So why bother with banks.
@...enough4:
Fuck Gandhi. Motherfucker killed his wife. And Lincoln owns your face.
@...nobody knows:
Yeah if you stop name calling me and if you can reach the upper cupboards in the kitchen.
@...nobody knows: Little known fact.
Huge worldwide economies and deficiencies born out of corruption and misallocations of assets can easy be repaired by one President, of one nation, in as little as two months.
Iraq?
One little country?
6 Long years?
Yeah, that’s no problem. World wide economic constriction? TWO FUCKING MONTHS, THAT’S HOW WE REPUBLICANS WOULD DO IT!
At risk of being called a commie, a Marxist, a damn dirty socialist, etc…..From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.
@...enough4:
I like it.
@...dieAntagonista: Tis why I am smitten with you, m’ lady.
Paul is the fucking man. Simple as that.
Except:
@...Paul_Is_Drunk: stop liking it.
@...the3g_ipwn: No way. But we disagree. We are supposed to rip each other’s heads off. Metaphorically. And that’s one of my weaknesses, when people say m’ lady to me. Stop it.
I like how you keep emphasizing “metaphorically.” Like I’m some kind of stalker/beheading serial killer, m’ lady.
“You can not strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. This is why I refuse to outlaw slavery. Weakening the economic prosperity of slave owners won’t make the slaves any stronger. This moral foundation behind my political legacy will likely not be fully understood until conservatives get onto the internet 150 years from now and falsely attribute a quote by some guy they’ve never heard of to me.”
– Abraham Lincoln, 1809-1965
@...the3g_ipwn: You like to play dirty don’t you. And no you got it all wrong, I just think the word metaphor is pretty. So I keep repeating it.
@...enough4:
Dude, there are countless politicians, authors and philosophers who get credit for things they didn’t say. So what. Lincoln was an exceptional man. But I guess you’d like him more if he were a pretentious conman and Buddhist who kills relatives in order to keep his credibility.
Need I say more.
@...dieAntagonista:
yes I’ll stop calling you, and yes I can reach the upper cupboards in the kitchen, anything else?
@...dieAntagonista:
“You like to play dirty don’t you.”
Only with you, m’ lady.
“Abraham Lincoln was an exceptional man, which is why I agree with everything he said, especially the things I freely acknowledge that he didn’t say. But only if what I’m pretending he said is something I already believed in. Those are my favorite Lincoln quotes. Let’s face it, Lincoln was awesome, unlike Gandhi, who was a murderous Buddhist. This simple fact will win me any argument on the internet instantly.”
– Benjamin Franklin, 1706-1790
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
– George W. Bush
“Some have asked me to define the Socratic ideal of reason. I define it thus: if presented with a quotation of dubious and contradictory origin, do not utilize your ability to scour all the great texts of the Royal Library at Alexandria within the blink of an eye for the truth. Rather, if the quotation defends your political views, believe it with all of your power, and should any soul seek to dissuade you of your preferred conclusion, attack him with great vigor and profanity. This, then, is reason defined.”
– Yahoo Serious, 1953-2189
“life’s a bitch, get a divorce” – MonkeyHitman
@...Puulaahi: I thought Rummie was going to shit a brick when Bush said that.
@...enough4: I like how Yahoo Serious lived 236 years. Does that mean he’ll make a comeback soon? Part of me thinks “Young Einstein” was amusing as hell. The rest of me is ashamed, and feels I should be flogged for admitting that.
@...enough4:
It’s funny how you assume that I agree with everything he said. Nobody agrees with everything anyone has ever said. What kind of planet are you on. And the quote in the picture is good, whether it’s by Abraham or not. I can like both. There are enough quotes and philosophies by Lincoln out there, where we know for a fact that he said or wrote those.
Your conclusions are so ridiculous, I don’t even know if I should feel insulted or amused.
And then you pull the, you just want to win an argument on the Internet-card – surprise! Every time you reply, you prove that that’s exactly what you are trying to do.
“Just buy me beer and everthing will be all right”
-Tiki god
@...MonkeyHitman:
Life’s not a bitch! Life is a beautiful woman
You only call her a bitch because she won’t let you get that pussy.
Maybe she didn’t feel y’all shared any similar interests
Or maybe you’re just an asshole who couldn’t sweet talk the princess.
– Aesop Rock
@...dieAntagonista:
I agree with everything anyone has ever said.
@...wookie_x: Rummie is the puppet master dude.
“Before we were married, my wife and I used to play a game called Let’s Go Get Lost. We’d be driving, and she would just tell me to turn. ‘Turn here, turn here, turn here.’ I’d say, ‘Baby, I know this town too well. I can’t get lost.’ And she’d say, “Turn, turn, turn.” Until we were out in Indian country, and they were shooting at us.”
– Tom Waits
@...dieAntagonista: Did you just propose to me?
@...dieAntagonista:
I see you are a diligent student of the teachings of the 78th President of the United States, the Right Honorable Yahoo Serious. You have done him proud.
I should warn you, however, that I read in a great book of literature that Abraham Lincoln sold poison milk to school children. I would not try to contrast Lincoln’s evils with Gandhi’s, lest you come across as a historical illiterate.
@...dieAntagonista: Tom Waits owns EVERYONE.
@...the3g_ipwn: HOW’D YOU GUESS. You’re my new favourite American republican, as of now. I have only three so that says something. The other two are married though. Wait, dead American republicans don’t count right? Anyhow, I have three who are alive. That should be enough. For now.
@...enough4:
Now I’d reply with my sincere thoughts or something, but it just doesn’t feel right. You don’t curse, you don’t offer any information as to who you admire so that I can make fun of you for it and you call me diligent. Fuck you.
@...HoChunk:
I know right.
Jesus fucking christ, What the hell is it with you prObamas? Why is it that everyone who dislikes obama is automatically called a republican? and furthermore who in the hell said they expected the man to fix our economy in two months. Nobody is bitching about that
@...Paul_Is_Drunk: You know paul your sarcasm is not misplaced. I doubt the republicans would be any better and wouldn’t fuck things up as well. I am also not expecting the Obama to fix the world let alone our nation in two months. Although i can’t expect him to fix the nation BY USING MONEY WE DO NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR THE MONEY WE DIDN’T HAVE IN THE FIRST PLACE. Good god, i am not going to run up an 80,000 dollar credit card bill while my income is severely dented from a poor local economy and then take out a loan from another bank.
Also, why isn’t any of this money going to small buisnesses? There are thousands of people who are losing their businesses. Meanwhile your buddy Barack is handing taxpayer and borrowed money to people who are getting FUCKING MILLIION DOLLAR BONUS CHECKS for companies that are capable of surviving the recession? That is pretty much a paraphrase of what senator Byron Dorgan ( D-ND )said. My opposition to obama has nothing to do with political affiliations. In fact i was really happy at his choice for attorney general. For the first time The DEA is finally backing the fuck off of medicinal cannabis users.
Damn. I’m feeling all emo and left out here. I need to get me another cyberstalker. I guess first I would need to be, like, interesting or something.
That quote is not from Lincoln. Its from a Conservative university political sciences professor.
@...dieAntagonista: Sorry, m’ lady. I don’t consider myself as a republican. I’m a conservative. There is a difference.
I would be flattered, however, to be your new, favorite, American conservative.
@...dieAntagonista:
I admire anyone who embodies Dr. Serious’ teachings of responding with profanity and anger whenever someone corrects the record.
In short, I admire you, silly!
@...thelotuseater725: “…and furthermore who in the hell said they expected the man to fix our economy in two months. Nobody is bitching about that.”
You repeat yourself on multiple picture threads. Are your panties in a bunch? Need a tissue? Everything cannot happen at once as you said. As I recall Bush wrote some big checks too to “fix” the economy. So as far as I am concerned means jack shit to Obama. Any president person would have done it except maybe Ron Paul.But he would fuck shit up other places. You are just bitching cus you want to bitch. Just admit it, you already kinda have.
As for small businesses.
“”…and furthermore who in the hell said they expected the man to fix our economy in two months.”
@...thelotuseater725:
I know almost no one on M[c]S these days aside from dieAntagonista, and she only stands out because she also speaks German. I have a vague impression that you’re one of the people I agree with more often than not, but I can’t back that up.
However, you just pulled the most hypocritical move on the planet. You got upset that anyone against Obama is a Republican, and when I called out the fact the Republicans are highly critical without plans of their own, I’m a “prObama? hanging out with my “buddy Barack?”
When did I ever say I agreed with what Obama is doing? For Fuck’s sake, I’m a believer in propositional democracy.
@...camusapprentice: We already covered that dude.
@...dieAntagonista: Where do i fit in ? ( please say in your vagina or butthole…you can’t hear this because it is in parentheses)
“Look people, Darth Vader and Skeletor are plotting to take away your jobs. We need this one trillion dollar bailout bill so we can Reconstruct upon lion-o from our sister planet Third Earth to pilot voltron. Did i mention the Tree Octopus is endangered as well? Yeah it is. Anyways elect a black dude in 2008. Just trust me. And do not listen to that Nietzsche or albert Camus fag. They are muslims and they eat bald eagles for breakfast live on Al-jazeera. Palin-biden 08”
– Henry David Thoreau 2112-197666
life is no women i can tell you that .
pussy been glazed up soo much times, i wish it were like a wine. the older the better. sadly things don’t work like that.
@...thelotuseater725:
Wow.
~
I stand corrected.
~
I miss the days when Ciao, reboot, & mAgnUS BUTTfersoon were more regular. At least then it was creatively stupid arguments.
~
I still think I owe reboot a beer.
As mentioned, they were written in 1916 by the Rev. William J. H. Boetcker.
To call upon a much over-used addage, but nonetheless appropriate: “Arguing on the Internet is like the Special Olympics. Regardless of who wins, you’re still retarded.”
ALL politicians suck. Their party affiliation is simply a label which associates them with which nut they’re sucking. The President is just another dick subject to the will of the nuts.
They have one job and one focus: re-election. They couldn’t care less about you or what you think. It is entertaining to read, however. So, please continue.
In during shitstorm.
@...Paul_Is_Drunk: Well i suppose you are right there Paul (you damn drunk). I’ve been in defense mode all day (long story, it involves youtube, allergy season, the local PD and for some reason there were pollsters all over my subdivision today) so i guess i took what you said out of context and reacted rudely/smugly. For that i apologize. Would you like some fresh Tree Octopus or Crocoduck?
@...Puulaahi: Dude i am always bitching about the government.And the reason i keep same exact arguments keep coming up over and over again. The major corporations aren’t the ones that are in need of a bailout right now it is the thousands if not millions of small mom and pop shops that not only purchase from but give the major corporations buisness that need to be “bailed out” Why are we giving money to these multi-billion dollar firms like AIG, Merrel Lynch when they are part of the reason we are in this fucktarded scat bukkake to begin with? In two fucking months we are already over two trillion dollars in debt AND that is not counting when bush signed the initial bailout! Yeah it isn’t an obama specific issue, but you are fucking kidding yourself if you think he is making it better. This isn’t an argument of time this is an argument of policy. And nobody else seems to get that, they just automatically assume it is the republicans or conservatives acting like partisan jackasses.
@...enough4:
Beg your pardon. Are you new here? Have you heard of those noble things called sarcasm and humour? No? Try it out sometime, it’s healthy, but you gotta pull your head out of your ass all by yourself I’m afraid.
“whenever someone corrects the record”
Yeah, you corrected errors you yourself created, bravo!
Oh look, Tom said he feels good when he has a little money in his bank account. That means Tom is a capitalist swine! Hooray. I corrected the record. I am the record corrector. Now someone send me flowers and some alcohol to celebrate.
@...the3g_ipwn: Oops. I could have sworn you said you were a republican. Some while ago or something. Hm, alright that has got to be a conflict of some sort now. Then you’ll be my only favourite American conservative. I’m not sure if I know any others.
Which brings me to thelotuseater725. Yeah you were one of the other married republicans, as a matter of fact. Now don’t say you aren’t a republican either.
The third and last republican is Ron Paul by the way. Or second I guess.
Goddamn you Americans, why you gotta be so complicated. It’s 5am and I have to go to school in a few.
@...dieAntagonista: I have plastic flowers and a bottle of bourbon I’ll share, but you gots to come get it!
@...dieAntagonista:
No, I’m afraid I have never heard of these mythical creatures you call “sarcasm” and “humour”.
Are they related to Lincoln’s list of “cannots”, which the corrected record clearly shows were written by him and not by some random person like, oh, Rev. William J. H. Boetcker? I’ve re-read the thing like 40 times, and I see no reference to “sarcasm” or “humour.”
I will consult the Yahoo Serious Presidential Library immediately to investigate. I will report back my findings as soon as possible.
@...enough4:
I’ll do this only once, because I’m not sure if you’re being serious, since I don’t know anything about you.
So I said “You don’t curse, you don’t offer any information as to who you admire so that I can make fun of you for it and you call me diligent. Fuck you.”
If you don’t get that when I say, “you don’t offer any information as to who you admire so that I can make fun of you” – is a joke, I really don’t know what to tell you.
And then I act as if I feel insulted because you called me diligent.
WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED.
And I didn’t mean the thing about Abraham’s quote, or non quote. I meant how you jumped to conclusions, like that obviously I agree with everything Abraham has ever said or done etc.
@...wookie_x: That’s a deal. But only if you throw in a – How to identify zombies – bonus.
@...dieAntagonista:
What about a bundle pack of the Zombie Survival Guide and World War Z?
@...Sticky: Sounds good. I got the Zombie Survival guide already but I still haven’t got around to reading it. I’m a procrastinating motherfucker, especially when it comes to important things like SURVIVAL GUIDES. I mean, I’d be screwed, should the world end today. Totally. On the other hand, I still got Milla Jovovich chained in my garage so that should be of some use, at least.
But I need World War Z.
@...dieAntagonista:
I’ll send you WWZ. Srsly. Give me a real address and the book is yours.
@...dieAntagonista:
Your inability to tell if if I’m being sarcastic, even though I’ve been dumping barrels of it in every post I’ve made this thread, is probably related to your belief that I ever accused anyone of “agree[ing] with everything Abraham has ever said or done,” an odd conclusion considering that at no point has anything Abraham Lincoln *actually said* ever been brought up on this thread. I can’t tell you what this relationship means, but it’s something you might want to look into.
Beyond that, I apologize for being “new,” which is the obvious culprit of your confusion. I also apologize for calling you “diligent”, which was my error.
@...Sticky:
asdgfäjkh;fkh. Are you being serious? Well you could send me a postcard first, to test if the address I give you is real. That’s what I would do. I’ll send you something in return. I could send you my cat, she likes to sleep on books. Or no, she’s pretty xenophobic so that’s probably a bad idea. I could send you Swiss chocolate. Ah we’ll find something. I’ll send you an email as soon as I log in. Like I said, procrastinating. Omg I’m excited.
@...dieAntagonista: Lol. Shall I send you a picture of my own fuzzy little bastard? 😛
@...enough4:
Your reply made me laugh real hard. And yea I knew you were being sarcastic for the most part, but I’m self-righteous and felt the need to explain myself anyway.
I like when people are arrogant like that with me so I’ll stop now.
Oh, die, I never got around to asking, did you ever read my Psychology term paper, or has that fallen victim to your procrastination? 😉
@...Sticky: Haha no! Don’t tell me what it’s gonna be. That’s how you’ll be able to tell if I got it. Besides I like surprises. Or I guess I could just take a picture of myself with the card. Do as you please. Omg I’m excited. I got postcards and stuff from all over the place, except America and Cambodia. Do they even have postcards in Cambodia? Ah fuck ’em.
Oh shit. I totally did, Sticky. I’m sorry I never told you how amazed I was by it. I even plagiarised three lines from it already. My professor Pölzl was very pleased. He says you’re a little long winded but impressive nevertheless.
“I am not rich enough to be a Republican, and cannot afford to be a Democrat.”
My Dad. 1937-may the sun never set on His Works.
Ignore me, just need to subscribe.
@...dieAntagonista:
Well you know what, i am a republican. I am also a democrat as well. Infact i am a Democratic Constitutional Republican I will explain why. I am a republican because i believe that no voice should go unheard no matter how small, and that the majority does not have the right to opress the minority on any issue of Race, Religion, sexual orientation. I am a democrat because i also believe that the minority does not have a right to oppress the majority for race, religion, or sexual orientation. I am a constitutionalist because I believe that in order for a republic to work we must not let men go mad with power. Every human is born with inalienable rights. the founders of the USA described them as god given rights. If you wish to learn about these god given rights ( and other ones specific to our nation/culture) then just read the Bill of Rights.
So yeah, i am a republican. I am a democratic republican.
Politicians are so simple. Every nationality, every ideology, every facet of society they handle…same fucking story and bullshit. All you can do is pick the lesser evil and hope your guy/girl does what they said they would do. Yet everyone is blinded by stupid fucking labels, pointless trash talk that changes nothing and pining about their ideology. Forgetting completely about the greater good and even the problems.
I’m an Independent that is not registered to any party. I just happen to lean left. I am a Constitutionalist/ Libertarian(which is a better term) too. But I also believe in small govt too. I am as hypocritical as the system. I believe in free market as long as there are restrictions.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
The foundation of all my political beliefs. It’s from the Declaration of Independence, but should be the simple principal behind everything in this country. Unfortunately most seem to forget it in the pursuit of their own selfishness, corruption and zealot beer goggles. A quote so precise and yet so broad in scope.
either way any evil, lesser evil will fuck the us so fuck the system and fuck the government. we should pretty much work like this someone says something stupid shoot em.
@...MonkeyHitman:
Monkey, this is your father turn to the dark side.
@...nobody knows: i’m trying to understand if it’s “Monkey, this is your father *pause* turn to the dark side” or “Monkey, this is your father turn(ing) to the dark side”. Either way moi father is considered a god and should not be spoken in mouth of foul beasts if they wish to live (happily).
ever saw king kong? dnt want to get owned? you know what to do lol
HURR POLITICAL FLAMING HATE SPEECH!!! LOL
Seriously, though. We are letting some plunder from the public treasury at the expense of all.
The more government we have the less free and prosperous we will be. The more we allow lobbyists of any special interest, whether they be for “such-and-such” rights, for a business to get ahead of their competition through a government-granted monopolies and subsidies, or for the powerful few to have more influence over lawmaking than the people who vote for elected officials, the deeper we slip into an Oligarchy and away from a Republic.
@...dieAntagonista:
Long-winded is my specialty. When you get assigned a 1000 word paper out of fucking nowhere asking for analysis of Antigone your freshman year of high school and you get points deducted if you’re short on words, you become long-winded by default. That said, I’m the master of meaningful bullshit. I can say tons of shit, and even if it doesn’t mean anything, it sounds good. 😀
Too imply that the rich are hurt because they have to bear an economic burden that they caused is entire bogus. Lincoln may have said that you shouldn’t tear down the rich to build of the poor, but nothing going on in America today is doing that.
And, unless you’re one of the very rich in this country, what the fuck are you doing agreeing? You might not be poor, but most of you probably aren’t upper class–if you were, you wouldn’t have time to fuck around on MCS all day.
@...Sticky: Yeah and I love it.
@...rattybad:
So you have to be rich in order to agree with a philosophy that revolves around the rich? What. You’re like my teacher at the business academy. We had this discussion, who should earn the most money. The people who study for the most years, the people who do the hardest work, the people who have the most life threatening jobs, etc. Well a lot of us came to the conclusion that the people with the most life threatening jobs are the ones who should earn the most. You know what her answer was? “Well then what are you doing here at a business academy.”
That’s not how it works. You can do one thing, and recognise the significance of another at the same time.
Also, I’m pretty sure that the upper class have enough time to do whatever they want all day long.
And I don’t even mess around here all day, I do it all night. Thank you very goddamn much.
@...rattybad: because dieA is a creature of the night
@...SumoSnipe: Hey, we Transylvanian people are born like that. The whole suck people’s blood until they die thing is all made up though. We suck just long enough to make them feel all loopy.
Loopy is such a great word.
@...dieAntagonista: Out of curiosity, Is there any particular reason to suck peeps blood until loopiness instead of death? Doesn’t that leave witnesses? Inquiring minds want to know…
@...Phyreblade: Haha. So what would you find more suspicious: A few confused people who look like they were bitten by some animal and they keep talking about “vampires”, or when several people go missing/ are found dead.
Besides, if you don’t kill them, they are like walking blood donaters. Donater is not a word, is it. Well it is now.
@...dieAntagonista: Donor, but donater makes the point also. This is English, we make up words all the time.
@...dieAntagonista: Errrm… You have a point. My bad. Please carry on loopying then. 🙂
@...dieAntagonista: Apparently you have been a very busy with the sucking, cause a lot of this thread seems pretty loopy.
@...dieAntagonista:
The point isn’t who should make the most money, anyway, but whether the wealthy are being hurt by having to pay more taxes (as the quote by Lincoln implies). Because the wealthy have more opportunities to take advantage of the system, as they’re the ones with positions of political and economic influence, then most policies favor the rich and not the poor, so to ask the wealthy to take care of the poor with social programs only evens the playing field. So if you’re not rich, and you espouse a pro-rich policy, then you’re a fucknut with no sense, and you should go drown yourself in the nearest lake.
@...rattybad:
What quote by Lincoln?