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@...Dungholder:
when you turn 18, you have to register for selective service. At that point, you have to get your first “full service” physical (if you know what i mean) and then you get enrolled in the jury duty pool, and then your opinion means something.
Of course, that’s not what i was talking about.
I was telling you to shut up til then so you’d put X number of years behind you before spouting off more dumbsauce. Granted, it’ll still be retarded at 18, but at least it’ll be different
I will be better off because I wont drink. A theres a reason why Alcoholism is a disease. Its something that cant be helped unless you just never drink, Nobody knows if they can pick up a beer, drink half, then stop.
@...Phyreblade:
well said.
@...Dungholder:
wat
@...Dungholder: so. . . it’s better to live in fearful ignorance of your own powers, abilities and strengths, weaknesses and limitations?
How will you ever overcome anything?
hahahaha wtf dude. so youre saying if i drink ill overcome everything?
@...elzarcothepale: Exactly.
@...Dungholder: No, it actually has nothing to do with the drinking or not drinking at all. It’s about you being in control of your own fears, and of your own life, and not letting your fears control you.
Gaining the knowledge that you are not your father, and *you* are strong enough to drink if you want to, without becoming a drunk, gives you power.
Dagnabbit, I’m beginning to sound like Mr. Miyagi…
@...Phyreblade:
i smell a lost cause- give him a jude medal and call it a day
there are certain people who can drink and know when to stop because i know when to stop, people drink because they have different reasons for, people smoke weed for different reasons for. everybody is different, most people cannot handle drinks or weed. like for example, my classmate is addicted to weed, spends maybe 60 euro’s a week that’s 240 euro’s a month on weed alone, where as i smoke like once in a full moon, i got 911 & White Widow where the country i live in it’s fucking legal to buy and smoke, sitting on my desk as i see it everyday and still i have no urge to smoke it. i smoke cause when school,social & e-social tends to get out of hand, to keep me sane. for other people it’s alcohol. even thou i don’t agree on over use but still, look at this world. we don’t have freedom to talk, every century rights get taken away from us. listen man you ain’t got no right to label everyone “crack heads” cause crack heads are in the garbage looking for food or stealing shit for drugs. there are some good people who need a little break from life. seriously cannabis is a plant created by “supposable god” created. leave shit as it be.
i don’t know who you are or what you know but from your comments you seem simple minded go visit the world, go live in poverty, and go visit europe go study something called Multi-Culture and stop thinking that everything and everyone is how you think they are.
@...Phyreblade: Well in that case, I’m strong enough to not drink.
@...ColombianMonkey: I live with my mom and we only have about 2 years left til all our money runs out. @...elzarcothepale: You are still a wizard.
dude your a kid alright, later when you get older and stop and notice the world is a fucked up place.survival of the fittest, trust nobody because in *snap* they turn against you. your dad just wasn’t able to cope with the stress with jobs, and now he drinks too much. and what just because HE drinks and do fucked up shits does that means all the responsible drinkers have to suffer because your problem? hell no. these guys are not saying that it is okay to drink. but they are trying to get some information in your head that they have people who drink responsible. NOT EVERYONE IS LIKE YOUR DAD, OR YOUR LITTLE ClASSMATES BUDDIES. dude fucking lil kids smoke weed because they think it’s cool. there fucking retarted stupid dumbasses who will end up running your state because they have money. wake up and smell the fucking roses. they are different people who have different reasons to smoke or drink not like your immature dumbshit friends. i know about your retarded pseudo society how if your not in the in crow your with geeks or if you don’t do this your not cool. or if you don’t smoke you cannot chill with us. fucking stupid kids your American schools are teaching you. wake up the government are making retarded children, why ? so there easier to control. life is not awesome. it’s the hardest fucking thing you gotta do. you pass with obstacles in your life because they are there to teach you, you just need to listen to someone who has gone through this shit and took the right road and is WILLING to help you by informing you/teaching you something so YOU don’t end you like the rest fucktards. who are doing meth/ or driving drunk. yes there fucking bullshit. i lost so much friends and people i know with alcohol. with drunk driving, i hate it but what can i do. and yea it sucks for your dad to loose money but that is how people are. they think first of themself. YOU THINK THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO HELP FOR FREE? NOBODY IS DOING NOTHING FOR FREE. LEARN THIS TO YOUR HEART, what ever someone do they do for a benefit of themself.what you want to do get back at the guy? because your mad? then you will be no better than him. you can deny but the facts are there.
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seriously how can you say something like that if you never even touched it. if you ever decide to try weed responsible do it because you want to be educated not because your friends want to try it. if they were your friends truly, they would stop you, if they were your friends they would remind you not to drink too much. your friends protect you, not destroy you.
i really respect how that you don’t smoke or drink alcohol, when i reached in holland that is when i tried weed responsible. I could have tried it since i was small back home on my island but i choose not to. because i had someone there to tell me right from wrong and why. and if you choose not to drink or smoke now, it’s a very good choice but don’t stand behind because they are evil but cause there not. too much of everything is a bad thing. too much money is bad because you will end up like a selfish bastard like the guy who cleaned your dad 50k… relate to anything. and i hope you will Open up, and realize that there is no escuse for you to be like the rest of the dumb asses in your school or so. you are just misguided that’s all.
Life is a balance, only you can choose which life you want to lead. have cup and fill it to 50% and ask yourself is it half empty or half full.
@...elzarcothepale: Oh that’s what that smell was…? I thought it was barbecue chicken… Was making me hungry… 🙂
@...Dungholder: LOL, no, that’s not a demonstration of strength, just toothless showboating. I think it would be more accurate to say you don’t want to try drinking because you are too afraid that you might turn out to be like your father. There’s a big difference between that, and what you seem to think are the real reasons you have decided not to drink, the vast majority of which are not entirely true.
I’m not saying you need to go and down a beer bong, just to prove that you can, but you really need to examine where your ideas about why these things can be bad came from. You are awash in a sea of half truths, full fledged lies and misconceptions, and unless you are willing to stop eating the propaganda everyone has fed you, and start thinking for yourself, you will never really understand why your dad did what he did, and whether or not you will do the same.
You can blame alcohol all you want, but alcohol is an inanimate substance. And weed is a dead plant. Neither of which can *make* you do anything. This is the bit you seem to be ignoring. You don’t want to drink? Fine. You don’t want to blame your dad for what he did? OK then.
But don’t blame the alcohol for it and talk as though anyone else who drinks is dumb. Some people can handle it, some people can’t. That’s not the alcohols fault. It’s usually the fault of people who didn’t know their own limits, or knew them and didn’t care. Everything that happens afterwards is entirely their fault, whether you want to admit it or not…
@...Phyreblade: “Neither of which can *make* you do anything.” Excuse me? So you’re saying that people swerve around in the middle of the road and hit a small child on purpose? Alcohol has ruined 5 of my family members lives. I think that’s enough to realize that alcohol cant help you in any way. If you CAN drink in moderation like you’re supposed to then who cares? It’s just a beverage. But what if you cant drink in moderation. Some people can’t just have ONE beer. That’s what creates an alcoholic. So why even start drinking? One of my uncles had a seizure because he didn’t drink before noontime one day because he had to pick his daughters up from school. His wife, my aunt, got a DUI a month ago and lost her license until she pays 45 dollars for 40 classes(scam). I’m done arguing because nobody is getting their point across. I did like having these arguments though it dulled my boredom.
On another note. Listen to my bands horrible recordings at Myspace.com/Hulksmashtheworld !
Don’t judge the recordings, we recorded them with a mic our vocalist uses for World of Warcraft.
Guys… this problem is obviously much deeper than we thought. Dungholder was abused as a child and not held enough by his mother. He is clearly a depressed McCain supporter who sees no hope left for America. The spiraling economy has him worried about the welfare of his family, and he just wants some support. He just needs someone to hold him and tell him it is all going to work out.
I suggest going to an Evangelical Church. I have a feeling that you would fit right in there.
@...Dungholder:
www.myspace.com/Hulksmashtheworld
naw dude,
dude.
naw.
that’s just wrong.
learn 2 music- and i’m not talking about the recording quality.
I still am a child, I cant vote, Nobody sees hope for America, and I hate churches because everyone is so sure of themselves when in reality nobody is sure.
@...Dungholder:
Nobody isn’t posting in this thread- but I’m not sure if he’s an optimist or not.
In any case, keep your blinders on for now- just remember this conversation when you get them removed- you’re gonna feel like a douchenozzle.
I love being a douchenozzle
getting back to the post though, what kind of D-bag took this picture in the first place? i hope he or she feels like shit, man.
@...Dungholder:
okay- though it’s an odd person who talks shit on smoking pot, but advocates the oral acceptance of vaginal enemas. I mean. . .for someone as “Straight Edge” as you, that seems awfully promiscuous.
Yes because im literally a douchenozzle. I bet you can turn me into one with one of your magical spells
@... Dungholder
Aaron, is that you?
oh, silly boy, just because something has a “z” in it doesn’t mean it is magical in nature.
I told you before- my name, “el zarco” means “the blue eyed” in Portuguese, but it only apples to those of the “Latin” persuasion. Since I am practically an albino- “the pale” had to be added to make it my own.
I got the term not from a weaksauce Rowlings books, but from Madeline L’Engle’s “A Swiftly Tilting Planet” wherein a pivotal world figure turns out to be either a dangerous revolutionary and terrorist or a world leader and peaceful visionary based on events that the main character in the book influences in the past.
In a nutshell, i picked the name because of the idea that all over our lives are of consequence, and our choices echo across generations.
So yes. You’re right. You’re not literally a douchenozzle, you just have no problem being compared to one.
My name is Jake Freakin’ Walker, and I can spit that statement out with the same level of intensity as Indigo Montoya because my ego makes a rapper’s mic persona look like a cutter. On my tombstone, the following will be blowtorched:
“You know, you’re not as cool as you think you are.”
“No one on the planet is as cool as I think I am.”
So go ahead.
Sing your sad(read: bad) music.
Mark your hands in black,
and live as small as possible.
I’ve got a pot of awesomesauce on the stove,
and there’s a Veronica Mars episode cued up on the next tab.
Whether you want to admit it to yourself or not-
you’ll inch the rest of your way through your best years trying to feel this great.
Magical ain’t got shit on Jake Walker.
ha. i said apples.
elzarco, you smell
@...Dungholder:
It’s our whole argument to you and your behavior here.
@...elzarcothepale: *sigh* You were right. I stand corrected…
@...nyokki: So you’re saying that I think i’m sure…but nobody is actually sure? I’m pretty sure everyone knows that alcohol and drugs are a waste, it’s just that nobody likes to admit it. *wink*
@...Dungholder: Whew! Fell that breeze? No?
err *feel*
@...Dungholder: No, it’s that you’re so dead set on what you “know” and that you absolutely refuse to listen to any goddamn common sense or logic. After reading you’re posts, you really are like your alcoholic family members. They hid behind alcohol and you hide behind your stubbornness. It’s sad really.
@...Jaypeezy: Good point. He really is hiding in his own way and it distorts his mind more than drugs would.
I just don’t understand how someone who has never tried something can be so adamantly against it, preaching so incoherently and passionately. If you don’t know, go learn and come back. Until then, please, STFU.
Honestly, I don’t necessarily have an issue with someone being vehemently against something, even if they have never personally experienced it. After all, I have yet to shoot myself in the foot, but I certainly wouldn’t want to try it.
What makes no sense to me is when people make a personal life decision about something, and then tack on a whole slew of baseless implications with no apparent justification, that must somehow apply to everyone else.
He’s sitting there calling any one who smokes or drinks, or even disagrees with his point of view, dumb, retarded, etc., when it’s painfully clear he has no real clue about the factual mechanics of substance abuse.
If ignorance is bliss, he’s in 7th heaven. Just stay away from the edges of those clouds, dude. It’ll be a really, really, long way down if you ever trip and fall…
POOP
@...Dungholder: You have some sort of fixation on excrement don’t you…? 🙂
if he smoked during the olympics, his piss would have narc’d him out
I am excrement
@...Dungholder: Aaaaalrighty then. You may want to have that looked at…
@...Dungholder:
i repeat my request:
just shut up for a couple years.
You’ll feel better.
What is going on here.
I can dispute all you people’s laughable arguments with only one quote by a man greater than you will ever be.
“I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they’ve always worked for me.”
It’s alright. Continue being straight edge. Nobody is going to fucking remember you anyway.
@...dieAntagonista: Thompson is a sick and twisted individual…and I love him for it. 😉
@...dieAntagonista: Not that I want to be remembered, but you’re saying I wont be remembered because I don’t drink or do drugs. Who the fuck is gunna remember you? You die, get buried, and after about 2 weeks nobody cares about your worthless rotting corpse. Sounds pretty ugly, but thats reality. And you look pretty ugly, thats also reality. You should be in the kitchen anyways, you can actually do some good there.
~TROLL DETECTED~
@...Dungholder: Man… Your troll-fu is exceedingly strong… Do you forget about the friends you’ve lost after two weeks? That’s too bad. But that’s not reality. That’s you. I remember each and every one of mine.
@...dieAntagonista:
Very nice.
@...Dungholder:
No that is essentially not what I was saying.
You’re not going to be remembered, not because you don’t do alcohol or drugs, but because you have an attitude and a personality uglier than a 3 week old pimple on the Queen’s ass.
Yeah come on, let’s see your face honey.
@...Dungholder: AAre you sure you don’t want to insult her by w/ “Your mama wears army boots”?
I dont have a bad attitude, its just the fact that you people cant get the fact that drugs and alcohol are stupid into your brain. Myspace.com/dungholder
@...nyokki: Hahahaha.
@...Dungholder:
Nobody claimed alcohol and drugs are directly good for your brain. What you don’t realise, the majority of people who commented on here are extremely intelligent, stable and a lot more experienced than you.
You’re 16 years old, I can’t say that I’m not impressed that you don’t see any need for alcohol & drugs.
But what do you know about how the world functions and what is good for whom and what isn’t?
Do you eat any processed foods from the supermarket? Of course you do. Surprise, these things are pumped FULL with chemicals that you would call drugs. Have you ever needed some aspirin because you had a headache? Again, you’re manipulating your body by way of chemicals.
Michael Phelps is the best example. Look at what he has accomplished and we know for a fact that he smoked weed. Do you think you’re ever going to be as successful as him? Yeah, I doubt it too.
Go live your life and do what you think is right, but don’t tell other people why they shouldn’t eat this or smoke that when you yourself are an addict as well. Your drugs just happen to be legal.
@...nyokki:
To which die would probably answer “Yes, she does.” LOL.
@...dieAntagonista:
The ugly attitude seems to come from severe lack of experience and almost no social skills. Calling people and himself “dumb”, “gay”, etc. is a glaring sign that this kid has almost no vocabulary. I blame the system.
@...Annarchy:
Hehe. Well you know how it is these days, pseudo homophobia is hip! I blame the system also.
@...dieAntagonista: Phelps didn’t use drugs while he was in the Olympics…because he wouldn’t perform well if he did. Also, the chemicals in processed food don’t bake your brain and I’m not fat or unhealthy so I could care less what the chemicals do to your body. Look what drugs did to Nostradamus… he sat in an attic all day doing drugs making shitty little poems “predicting the future” and whenever some big world event happens people skim through them to figure out which one sounds like it would fit the description. – wrote that while drinking a glass of milk and I always have a cup of water right next to me. Every once in a while i’ll crack open a coke and then feel my teeth crumbling and go back to the water. I’m also eating a homemade cupcake…not exactly healthy but its beats twinkies. Pretty sure I’m not a junk food addict.
@...dieAntagonista: You’re still ugly btw
@...Dungholder:
Haha. I’m ugly? That’s debatable. What is out of the question, is that I’m not a whale, unlike your girlfriend.
If I was you I wouldn’t let those cupcakes lie around when she comes over.
And chemicals in food don’t bake your brain? You mean that’s why the most powerful country in the world is also the fattest, with 58 Million people who are overweight? That’s 7 times more people than my entire country has.
Only a brainwashed person would continue to eat like that.
I’m sorry, the statistics are against you, the way gravity is against your girlfriend’s fat ass.
I’m pretty sure that 130 lbs doesn’t make someone a fat ass but if it does then that would explain the US being the fattest country in the world. I’m also pretty sure that you being ugly is not debatable.
Never be a brick inside your wall
Fuck that I’d rather see you fall
I’m not stayin silent like the rest
It’s time for me to get this off my chest
I yell because you’ll hear me if I shout
Don’t care if you don’t like what I’m about
Don’t care if you don’t like whats comin out
I’m never gunna shut my fuckin mouth
Fuck you I ain’t playin my tongue
I’ll shut up the day I’m fucking dead.
Yep, pretty much sums it up.
That’s deep.
It also sums up my attitude towards you pretty well.
Also I could care less if the US was full of fatasses.
We’re all fucked because we dont agree,
with a nation that wont move their feet,
in their melting of boiling grease,
all they ever do is work and eat,
and every kids raised on cable TV,
but they wont ever brainwash me,
we wont hold their M16s,
and they wont choose the thoughts we fucking think.
Forever a Burden we shall be,
We got the whole world at our fucking feet.
Also pretty much sums it up, I would hope so because those are the lyrics to one of my bands songs.
@...Dungholder:
Did I hit a nerve there? Look at him, he’s throwing emo lyrics at me.
Well hey, I think she looks like a man, which makes it even since you look like a girl.
About kids being raised on cable TV, look at yourself child, you’re a walking billboard.
Even your words are empty. Is that supposed to be hate? Rage? I don’t feel insulted yet, try again.
How are those lyrics emo at all? If they were emo my bands name would be something like “bleeding rivers full of butterflies burning” or something wicked gay like that and the lyrics would be talking about how depressing life is and how I should pretend to kill myself by cutting myself or taking a ton of pills when in reality im not actually trying to kill myself. Of course you think my girlfriend looks like a man, how else are you gunna feel better about yourself? Which also supports the fact that you think that I look like a female. If you think you’re that good looking why don’t you get into modeling? OH! BECAUSE YOU’RE NOT! I REMEMBER NOW! Yay.
Also I rarely ever watch TV and if I do its either Discovery channel, or the History channel.
This is getting boring.
Where is Caio when you need him? I never knew how to appreciate discussions with him. Now I do.
Your insults were cheap so I gave you some cheap insults back. I doubt you can comprehend anything else.
Your lyrics are emo because it’s repetitive shit about how the world sucks and of course you gotta say fuck a lot or else nobody is going to take you seriously.
Oh and hey, see even with all the alcohol and drugs baking my brain, I have already more accomplished than you when I was your age.
You say the world sucks – I for one love it. You have but only one life.
If your anger was at least real, I could understand. But you’re just a spoiled suburban brat with a chubby girlfriend.
There’s a million kids like you out there. Try and come up with something new.
You offer a lot of cheap things I bet. Work those corners! And btw since when did the world not suck? Look at the US govt and economy, it all sucks because someone was getting paid to fuck it up. Greed runs this world and if you can’t realize that then you shouldn’t be alive.
@...dieAntagonista:
I for one am enjoying the hell out of this. It’s unfortunate that you are battling an unarmed boy, but that makes it more entertaining!
Try and come up with something new? This is pretty fucking new to me considering every kid I know does drugs or drinks alcohol. If my anger wasn’t real then I wouldn’t be arguing with some ugly she-male that wants to get cucked. And even if my gf was chubby its better than having a girl you can pick the pieces of dead cow out of your teeth with. And by calling someone chubby you’re probably offending a ton of people on this website… and I bet you weren’t in love at the age of 16 so no you haven’t accomplished more than me, except maybe having a gross face.
@...Annarchy: ♥
@...Dungholder:
I don’t see any love in your life. You’re telling people they should die, you act like you look like some under age Brad Pitt and in your free time you make shitty music. That or you try to teach people twice your age on websites what they should or shouldn’t do.
You are what you think of all day. From the things you have said so far, it appears you don’t like what you see when you look in the mirror. Which is why attractiveness was the first thing you brought up when you replied to me.
I can see through you as if I were looking at a piece of glass.
Well obviously you can’t see through me because you’re looking AT the glass, try looking through it for once, most people don’t.
Most of the people on this site are amazingly gorgeous. Not just because I have seen their face, but because they’re intelligent and genuine.
This Is what makes a person beautiful to me, you understand that?
I can’t imagine how anyone but an ugly dog could love someone like you. Your lack of character is the only insulting thing on this site as of now.
I’d rather be ugly than a dumb piece of shit like you who knows nothing but melodramatic anger and hate.
i have a 3 week old pimple on my ass 😮
@...dieAntagonista:
you are wasting your time & effort, do what i do, associate with people who know how to understand and able to reply with same intelligence. just leave them be.
@...ColombianMonkey: = smart
@...ColombianMonkey:
SEE, I told you what would happen should I comment in this thread. Are you happy now?
@...Dungholder:
Bahahaha. Dude, he was insulting you. Bloody hell this is hilarious.
Alright I think I’m done here. Someone this stupid really doesn’t deserve that much attention. Minus the lulz part of course.
@...dieAntagonista: He’s smart because hes telling you that you were wasting your time. I don’t care if he was insulting me, he’s still smart for telling you to stop wasting your time. There’s a difference between calling someone smart and agreeing with them. Sow.
@...Dungholder: you need some.
@...dieAntagonista: yea your right, my apologies. thought you’d enjoyed it but now it’s just retarded.
Why am I arguing with a female? They’re always wrong ahaha
Yeah you douchebag, that’s because he’s my friend and thinks I’m too smart for you.
I didn’t think it was worth it until now.
That’s the great Monkey for you.
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I don’t care what he thinks! I’m just saying he’s smart because he told you you were wasting your time!
Fuck the world
Fuck reality
Fuck your job
Fuck your salary
Fuck your race
Fuck your color
Fuck your country
Fuck your culture
Fuck your government
Fuck the rich
Fuck the wealth
Fuck you all and
Fuck myself
IM DONE!
i am really starting to wonder if you really have a girlfriend or you just lie to her about yourself all the time. both way i hope you make something better of yourself, not for you but the people who have to spend there life around you.
♥
Alright I’m going to use this thread as reference from now on.
If anyone should doubt my methods ever again, just look at what I did with this kid.
Granted it was easy, but hey, how often do you encounter trolls anymore? They’re dying out.
@...ColombianMonkey: Don’t worry I tell her that women are always wrong. She doesn’t agree. Further proving my point.
@...dieAntagonista: you need to get online :P. but my laptop battery is dying, and forgot adapter at school so manana!
@...Dungholder: you should learn to choose the right words
What did you do with me?
mañana*
Other than have a serious argument with a 16 year old… makes you look wicked smart
I’m only 3 years older than you.
Trolls have gotten rare, and a student like me with too much time on her hands has got to fill in the gaps somehow right.
I don’t even know wtf an internet troll is
This is now the 2nd most commented on post. Still a ways to go to catch a moldy bible though.
@...Dungholder: for definition, consult a mirror.
@...nyokki: *Nothing* will ever match the epic win that is The Moldy Bible.
@...Phyreblade: I know, but emoturd is proving to have staying power that rivals that of riverdickdragon.
Subway supports Phelps.
@...nyokki: nice name for rdd and now. i support subway because they support him lol fail@...kellogz lol
@...Dungholder:
I had to step out for a sec- grandpa died,
but I’m glad to see that Die stepped in nicely-
we deliver a pretty stellar long distance tag-team beat down, if I do say so myself.
“Fuck you all and
Fuck myself
IM DONE!”
didn’t this mean you were gonna shut the hell off and bail?
I’ve got to work til tonight, but I’m more than happy to continue our “frank exchange of ideas”
I put it in qoutes because you haven’t had an original thought in your head since conception, and you can’t really take credit for those.
Go hide under your bridge til you grow up.
@...elzarcothepale: “I had to step out for a sec- grandpa died” < LAWL
@...Dungholder:
i’m not sure if you’re laughing at my mother’s father dying or if you just find me amusing in general.
Honestly, it doesn’t really matter. What matters is that you said “lawl.”
Really?
People who like me could do a better job of trying to get a rise out of me.
I wish I could play devil’s advocate and help you think up pithy and cutting insults to help you in this flamethread, but I don’t have the time to smoke emough pot to get me dumbed down to the point where we could relate.
I could probably beer bong some grain alcohol and just burn out half my grey matter, but helping you make up insults isn’t worth it.
It’s funny- the real reasons to avoid drugs and alcohol are rendered moot by your natural ignorance and poor potential
It’s funny- the real reasons to avoid drugs and alcohol are rendered moot by your natural ignorance and poor potential
Fucking A.