It’s even worse when you are a parent. I get such a weird mixture of emotions whenever i hear about the fucked up shit people do to their babies. It makes me want to cry yet at the same time scream in anger and just beat the ever living fuck out of people who do things like that. They don’t deserve to die although. Death is too easy, instead they deserve to suffer for their actions. They deserve to suffer every second of their life because that is all their child will have known if they weren’t rescued from the dumpster. Pure fucking terror. I think the sign was spray painted on there by a local church, but still it reminds me that people still do fucked up things like that. I think the worst thing i could ever do to my son is yell at him, and maybe if he was older ( like 10 or something) i would smack him.
It’s not that bad people.. I was once a dumpster baby, now look at me. It’s made me the criminal I am today.
Seriously though, babies deserve better. Like their own designated bin or something.
Let me play devil’s advocate for a moment here and raise the question: at what age does a human lose it’s -OMFG how dare you harm it- sacredness?
Why is a baby’s life more valuable than an adults? If anything, a baby hasn’t formed many attachments yet and has less to lose, other than a quantity of time, which is an illusion anyway.
“Hunt down the babykillers and shoot them” …kid, you are MISSING THE POINT
If it’s an eye for an eye you are advocating then why not hunt down and shoot everyone who ends another human’s life?
Don’t get me wrong, throwing a baby in a dumpster is abhorrent to me too, but you aren’t considering the hell someone’s life is already in / damned to, that they would even consider such an action in the first place. You don’t seem to realize how much it takes to make someone betray every natural instinct in the body and do something like this.
Hunting them down and shooting them is in no way shape or form solving the problem. That is arbitrary murder in and of itself and JUST as loathsome.
People do horrid things to each other. Always have, and probably always will. But your rage solves nothing. Morph your anger into compassion and you’ll help fix the problem instead of just increasing your aneurysm risk.
This is a symptom of a much larger disease.
But my greater point is that life is sacred at every age, or it isn’t at all. It’s a survival mechanism you are feeling and nature will kill you just as coldly at any age.
I know sylvanish is playing “devil’s advocate”, but I’m not really sure of the need to do so in this case; so….
Bullshit, if someone’s “already living in hell” and expressing that by killing babies, let them go there directly with a bullet to the head or the electric chair. Boo-hoo those poor baby killers. Being compassionate changes fuck-all. I’d say most people *are* compassionate…but there will always be sick fucks out there who do sick shit like this, and they don’t warrant a compassionate community to understand them. Compassion exists, but not everyone deserves it. Sometimes you forfeit your right to it.
The answer to the question, “at what age does a human lose it’s [sic] OMFG how dare you harm it sacredness” is never—but a baby can’t protect itself. It’s not about being human, it’s about vulnerability. The same is true of the elderly and people with mental health issues, et al.
As for hunting them down and shooting them, how about hunting them down, arresting and prosecuting them? That is the goal of law enforcement—and that *does* apply to anyone who commits murder, not just those who toss babies into dumpsters. It’s not a matter that they’ve been singled out in this example, but that they should be treated with the same justice as anyone else who would commit such a heinous crime.
Dude, I didn’t say anything about being compassionate. I wouldn’t want people like that anywhere near me.
But guess what, sick people do sick things. Oh you think that’s justice if you just hunt them down and kill them? How naive and idiotic of you.
The picture above, shows a system that has failed. If there are rich people, there have to be poor people also. Unless you have been poor, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Do you honestly think that if you just kill all the sick people that will solve anything? Think again. If this system still exists, and produces sick individuals, then you can kill sick fucks until you’re blue in the face.
But trying to solve the problem with poverty and education requires you to think, you don’t wanna do that right? Aw yeah. Let’s just kill all those motherfuckers, that will show them.
Too bad there is no such thing as evil. If you don’t take care of what caused people to become like this, killing ‘evil’ people will do shit.
Determinism, fuck yeah.
SumoSnipe (#4452)
15 years ago
My question is why people still dump a baby when nearly every major town and city here will take in a baby at firehouses, hospitals, police stations, no questions, no arrest. And while I may not like the Church, they at least still take in those left at their door.
@...rattybad: Good points. I’m glad you mentioned the factor of vulnerability.
But I must remind you, that you will never see this in a compassionate community. The cities that spawn this sort of shit are -not- compassionate communities at all. They cold gray jungles and all manner of insanity lurks in their depths. It is in those places that shite like this happens, those places where compassion didn’t exist to begin with that drove someone with an obvious mental problem to do this.
The vicious cycle of abuse is a syndrome that perpetuates itself. If you believe in evil, you cannot trace it back to a source other than God or the cold Universe. The monsters are victims too. God is the only one truly worthy of blame in these situations.
Everyone deserves compassion and forgiveness for their ‘sins’ or no one does.
dieA makes a very important point. It’s the flaw in our entire justice system. The police hunt and punish, but this in no way solves the problem that creates the bad people in the first place. The problem is a poison at the very roots.
@...SumoSnipe: A good question, the only answer I can think of is, that a thinking, rational person would do that, while the person who would dump their baby in the trash is neither thinking nor rational and suffering from a serious mental sickness.
@...dieAntagonista:
well if we kill all the sick ****s, then such a population drop will of course free up alot of jobs and welfare cases, so all those normal people who are left, can carry on as normal, and those normal people who are on welfare can claim one of the job openings
@...macol:
after playing the GTA series, yeah you gotta have some place to dump the dead prostitues after you kill themfor money
Slaughter the poor and the sick! Slaughter the elderly! Burn them all and scatter their dust to the winds, never to be thought of again!
is essentially what Kommissar’s argument is.
SumoSnipe (#4452)
15 years ago
@...dieAntagonista: No, no guns. If you want to remove someone, then it must be as brutal,slow, painful and physically demanding a kill as possible for the killer and victim. I have set my standard for what it would take for me to kill a human outside of self defense. They must have pissed me off to the point that I will track them down and preform coronary bypass surgery on them with a gravy spoon.It should not be easy, and I want my target to know the who, the why, and feel every last second of the how they die.
As for where to put the corpses,my ancestors found that bodies make great fertilizer……
dieAntagonista (#)
15 years ago
@...SumoSnipe: My respect for you has reached a ridiculous point.
I liked especially the part with the gravy spoon. I’m taking notes here, man.
@KommissarKvC: Most of the people like that don’t have a job. Hell a lot of are not on welfare. The people who would do this are so desperate that when they do this they are stopping the baby from starving to death. They can’t fed them selves let alone another mouth.
@SumoSnipe: The government would approve that, they like to us our money for that.
Don’t get me wrong, throwing a baby in a dumpster is abhorrent to me too, but you aren’t considering the hell someone’s life is already in / damned to, that they would even consider such an action in the first place. You don’t seem to realize how much it takes to make someone betray every natural instinct in the body and do something like this.
I see what you are saying there and i agree with you in that it is horrible that someone even contemplates going to that point. But here is the thing; There is no good excuse in our nation to dump your baby in a trash can or trying to flush it down the toilet. This isn’t the 16th century where half of all births result in death for the child or mother. There is no longer a true need to choose for them a slow agonizing death by starvation or to end it quickly by snapping the neck or throwing it off a cliff. The united and most of europe has progressed past this barbaric practice of “disposing of the young.” If you have a child you can not keep you can leave it at a firehouse, police station, on someones doorstep, a hospital, a library, a rescue squad house,a restaurant, hell even next too a fucking crosswalk if you have too. If you live in a rural area you can call the police or even drive to a safe location and leave it there. Don’t have a license? well that’s fucking tough, it’s better to get pulled over for driving without a license than to kill your child. There is no reason anyone should feel pity for these people. More than likely they killed for the purpose of convenience instead of necccesity. If you leave it in a dumpster or kill it for whatever reason there is there are only one explanation. You have absolutely no value on human life in any form. Do these people deserve to be killed? No, they don’t, nobody truly deserves to die. Timothy McVeigh didn’t deserve to die and neither did Joseph Stalin. But they deserved punishment. Maybe af1 And these people who do these things deserve punishment be it at the hands of god or man.
But there is another thing. And i know this may sound contradictory to what i said, but i think everyone -including the most abhorrent- deserves a chance to show remorse for their actions. As much hate and anger these people fill me with i can’t help but feel sorry that such a thing should ever occcur in someones thought process, especially when there are more viable options.
“Hunting them down and shooting them is in no way shape or form solving the problem. That is arbitrary murder in and of itself and JUST as loathsome.”
Agreed.
“People do horrid things to each other. Always have, and probably always will. But your rage solves nothing. Morph your anger into compassion and you’ll help fix the problem instead of just increasing your aneurysm risk.”
I agree to an extent, but i don’t think compassion will solve it any better than murder will. I could have written adolph hitler a bunch of letters about how much compassion i have for him or how sorry i felt that he viewed the jews as animals and it wouldn’t have stopped him from building dachau or birkenau.
But my greater point is that life is sacred at every age, or it isn’t at all.
You people should learn from Deadpool. Use your best superpower, COMMON SENSE.
Overpopulation
Poverty
Extra expenses
Headaches
You can solve all these by simply KILLING THE CHILD.
Kill the mother fucker, he won’t be missed by anyone if he’s not gonna be missed by you.
Stop being greedy fucks that want preserve every single miserable worthless human life out there, there’s more than 6 billion, there’s more than enough to spare.
Kill the babies with the dumpster, toilet, blender, hammer, whatever the fuck is handy at the moment. Think about the harm you’re doing by allowing another greedy son of a bitch like you to enter the world and fill it with yet another being with filthy one-track mind about how you HAVE to procreate or about how you HAVE to stay with the consequences of your mistakes for your whole life instead of using the most OBVIOUS method.
You pussies choose your hearts rather than your brains, that’s your fucking undoing.
@...dieAntagonista:
no, my personal list of executions is already booked full of drug users, the baby killers will have to book in with another Kommissar
What’s really sick about this is that the parent(s) of the babies are the ones who are throwing them away. Not being a parent myself, I can’t understand how someone could have a baby then dump it like garbage. It’s just fucked up.
that makes the places so much nicer knowing that enough sick ****s dump their babies into the bins
seriously, hunt down the babykillers and shoot them
@...KommissarKvC:
Wow something we agree on.
It’s even worse when you are a parent. I get such a weird mixture of emotions whenever i hear about the fucked up shit people do to their babies. It makes me want to cry yet at the same time scream in anger and just beat the ever living fuck out of people who do things like that. They don’t deserve to die although. Death is too easy, instead they deserve to suffer for their actions. They deserve to suffer every second of their life because that is all their child will have known if they weren’t rescued from the dumpster. Pure fucking terror. I think the sign was spray painted on there by a local church, but still it reminds me that people still do fucked up things like that. I think the worst thing i could ever do to my son is yell at him, and maybe if he was older ( like 10 or something) i would smack him.
It’s not that bad people.. I was once a dumpster baby, now look at me. It’s made me the criminal I am today.
Seriously though, babies deserve better. Like their own designated bin or something.
What’s worse than a baby in a dumpster?
A baby in three dumpsters.
What’s worse than a baby in three dumpsters?
Three dumpsters in a baby.
Let me play devil’s advocate for a moment here and raise the question: at what age does a human lose it’s -OMFG how dare you harm it- sacredness?
Why is a baby’s life more valuable than an adults? If anything, a baby hasn’t formed many attachments yet and has less to lose, other than a quantity of time, which is an illusion anyway.
“Hunt down the babykillers and shoot them” …kid, you are MISSING THE POINT
If it’s an eye for an eye you are advocating then why not hunt down and shoot everyone who ends another human’s life?
Don’t get me wrong, throwing a baby in a dumpster is abhorrent to me too, but you aren’t considering the hell someone’s life is already in / damned to, that they would even consider such an action in the first place. You don’t seem to realize how much it takes to make someone betray every natural instinct in the body and do something like this.
Hunting them down and shooting them is in no way shape or form solving the problem. That is arbitrary murder in and of itself and JUST as loathsome.
People do horrid things to each other. Always have, and probably always will. But your rage solves nothing. Morph your anger into compassion and you’ll help fix the problem instead of just increasing your aneurysm risk.
This is a symptom of a much larger disease.
But my greater point is that life is sacred at every age, or it isn’t at all. It’s a survival mechanism you are feeling and nature will kill you just as coldly at any age.
I agree with sylvanish.
Someone who is so sick that they would do such a thing, are already living in hell.
Fuck that, if I have a kid I have the right to put it wherever I want.
Babies… Fun to make, fun to eat.
I know sylvanish is playing “devil’s advocate”, but I’m not really sure of the need to do so in this case; so….
Bullshit, if someone’s “already living in hell” and expressing that by killing babies, let them go there directly with a bullet to the head or the electric chair. Boo-hoo those poor baby killers. Being compassionate changes fuck-all. I’d say most people *are* compassionate…but there will always be sick fucks out there who do sick shit like this, and they don’t warrant a compassionate community to understand them. Compassion exists, but not everyone deserves it. Sometimes you forfeit your right to it.
The answer to the question, “at what age does a human lose it’s [sic] OMFG how dare you harm it sacredness” is never—but a baby can’t protect itself. It’s not about being human, it’s about vulnerability. The same is true of the elderly and people with mental health issues, et al.
As for hunting them down and shooting them, how about hunting them down, arresting and prosecuting them? That is the goal of law enforcement—and that *does* apply to anyone who commits murder, not just those who toss babies into dumpsters. It’s not a matter that they’ve been singled out in this example, but that they should be treated with the same justice as anyone else who would commit such a heinous crime.
@...rattybad:
Dude, I didn’t say anything about being compassionate. I wouldn’t want people like that anywhere near me.
But guess what, sick people do sick things. Oh you think that’s justice if you just hunt them down and kill them? How naive and idiotic of you.
The picture above, shows a system that has failed. If there are rich people, there have to be poor people also. Unless you have been poor, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Do you honestly think that if you just kill all the sick people that will solve anything? Think again. If this system still exists, and produces sick individuals, then you can kill sick fucks until you’re blue in the face.
But trying to solve the problem with poverty and education requires you to think, you don’t wanna do that right? Aw yeah. Let’s just kill all those motherfuckers, that will show them.
Too bad there is no such thing as evil. If you don’t take care of what caused people to become like this, killing ‘evil’ people will do shit.
Determinism, fuck yeah.
My question is why people still dump a baby when nearly every major town and city here will take in a baby at firehouses, hospitals, police stations, no questions, no arrest. And while I may not like the Church, they at least still take in those left at their door.
The baby dumpster is the next block over. This one is for dead prostitute dumping.
Demon – did you take that pic? Are you here in Denver?
@...rattybad: Good points. I’m glad you mentioned the factor of vulnerability.
But I must remind you, that you will never see this in a compassionate community. The cities that spawn this sort of shit are -not- compassionate communities at all. They cold gray jungles and all manner of insanity lurks in their depths. It is in those places that shite like this happens, those places where compassion didn’t exist to begin with that drove someone with an obvious mental problem to do this.
The vicious cycle of abuse is a syndrome that perpetuates itself. If you believe in evil, you cannot trace it back to a source other than God or the cold Universe. The monsters are victims too. God is the only one truly worthy of blame in these situations.
Everyone deserves compassion and forgiveness for their ‘sins’ or no one does.
dieA makes a very important point. It’s the flaw in our entire justice system. The police hunt and punish, but this in no way solves the problem that creates the bad people in the first place. The problem is a poison at the very roots.
@...SumoSnipe: A good question, the only answer I can think of is, that a thinking, rational person would do that, while the person who would dump their baby in the trash is neither thinking nor rational and suffering from a serious mental sickness.
BFI
“Black Family Inside”
@...borongas: I always say, “Big Fucking Idiot” when I see BFI.
NO BABIES
“Thus curing the problem once and for all.”
“But…”
“ONCE AND FOR ALL!!”
Yeah, that labeling will guarantee no baby will ever be dumped there again. Why do I feel like singing that song from Family Guy?
“I’m a prom-night dumpster baby!”
@...dieAntagonista:
well if we kill all the sick ****s, then such a population drop will of course free up alot of jobs and welfare cases, so all those normal people who are left, can carry on as normal, and those normal people who are on welfare can claim one of the job openings
@...macol:
after playing the GTA series, yeah you gotta have some place to dump the dead prostitues after you kill themfor money
@...KommissarKvC:
Nice. Let me guess, you would personally take care of that problem if they gave you enough guns and permission.
So what about the corpses? Where you gonna put them, hm?
And why are you OK with genocide, yet you’re censoring yourself when you wanna use crude words.
Slaughter the poor and the sick! Slaughter the elderly! Burn them all and scatter their dust to the winds, never to be thought of again!
is essentially what Kommissar’s argument is.
@...dieAntagonista: No, no guns. If you want to remove someone, then it must be as brutal,slow, painful and physically demanding a kill as possible for the killer and victim. I have set my standard for what it would take for me to kill a human outside of self defense. They must have pissed me off to the point that I will track them down and preform coronary bypass surgery on them with a gravy spoon.It should not be easy, and I want my target to know the who, the why, and feel every last second of the how they die.
As for where to put the corpses,my ancestors found that bodies make great fertilizer……
@...SumoSnipe: My respect for you has reached a ridiculous point.
I liked especially the part with the gravy spoon. I’m taking notes here, man.
@KommissarKvC: Most of the people like that don’t have a job. Hell a lot of are not on welfare. The people who would do this are so desperate that when they do this they are stopping the baby from starving to death. They can’t fed them selves let alone another mouth.
@SumoSnipe: The government would approve that, they like to us our money for that.
@...sylvanish:
I see what you are saying there and i agree with you in that it is horrible that someone even contemplates going to that point. But here is the thing; There is no good excuse in our nation to dump your baby in a trash can or trying to flush it down the toilet. This isn’t the 16th century where half of all births result in death for the child or mother. There is no longer a true need to choose for them a slow agonizing death by starvation or to end it quickly by snapping the neck or throwing it off a cliff. The united and most of europe has progressed past this barbaric practice of “disposing of the young.” If you have a child you can not keep you can leave it at a firehouse, police station, on someones doorstep, a hospital, a library, a rescue squad house,a restaurant, hell even next too a fucking crosswalk if you have too. If you live in a rural area you can call the police or even drive to a safe location and leave it there. Don’t have a license? well that’s fucking tough, it’s better to get pulled over for driving without a license than to kill your child. There is no reason anyone should feel pity for these people. More than likely they killed for the purpose of convenience instead of necccesity. If you leave it in a dumpster or kill it for whatever reason there is there are only one explanation. You have absolutely no value on human life in any form. Do these people deserve to be killed? No, they don’t, nobody truly deserves to die. Timothy McVeigh didn’t deserve to die and neither did Joseph Stalin. But they deserved punishment. Maybe af1 And these people who do these things deserve punishment be it at the hands of god or man.
But there is another thing. And i know this may sound contradictory to what i said, but i think everyone -including the most abhorrent- deserves a chance to show remorse for their actions. As much hate and anger these people fill me with i can’t help but feel sorry that such a thing should ever occcur in someones thought process, especially when there are more viable options.
Agreed.
I agree to an extent, but i don’t think compassion will solve it any better than murder will. I could have written adolph hitler a bunch of letters about how much compassion i have for him or how sorry i felt that he viewed the jews as animals and it wouldn’t have stopped him from building dachau or birkenau.
Agreed.
You people should learn from Deadpool. Use your best superpower, COMMON SENSE.
Overpopulation
Poverty
Extra expenses
Headaches
You can solve all these by simply KILLING THE CHILD.
Kill the mother fucker, he won’t be missed by anyone if he’s not gonna be missed by you.
Stop being greedy fucks that want preserve every single miserable worthless human life out there, there’s more than 6 billion, there’s more than enough to spare.
Kill the babies with the dumpster, toilet, blender, hammer, whatever the fuck is handy at the moment. Think about the harm you’re doing by allowing another greedy son of a bitch like you to enter the world and fill it with yet another being with filthy one-track mind about how you HAVE to procreate or about how you HAVE to stay with the consequences of your mistakes for your whole life instead of using the most OBVIOUS method.
You pussies choose your hearts rather than your brains, that’s your fucking undoing.
KIIIILLLLLLLLLLLL THEEEEEEEE MOTHERFUCKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS
do I smell Banksy?
@...dieAntagonista:
no, my personal list of executions is already booked full of drug users, the baby killers will have to book in with another Kommissar
@...LukeV1-5:
actually read the thread then speak
@...SumoSnipe:
Sumo is in fact Hannibal Lector Jr
What’s really sick about this is that the parent(s) of the babies are the ones who are throwing them away. Not being a parent myself, I can’t understand how someone could have a baby then dump it like garbage. It’s just fucked up.