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I’m too fucking lazy right now to do such a thing with Mother Theresa and Mao Zedong.
That’s so pathetically dimwitted…
So you would use Mother Theresa as an example of a ‘good’ Christian? She took advantage of dying people while travelling the world rubbing shoulders with the rich and powerful. Nobody taken under the ‘care’ of one of her institutions actually got real help, they were places to proselytize to the dying. She was a monster. There are plenty of religious folk that have done good for the world, choose one of them as an example.
Lincoln wasn’t an atheist.
I think he was a deist.
Hang on a second. Abraham never said or did anything that proved he was indeed an atheist. In fact, there are more hints that show he was a deist.
Either way. Hitler on the other hand is more likely to have been an atheist. But I will say that he did use Christianity to ‘unite’ the people and brainwash them.
What a nonsensical comparison. Lincoln was one of the finest men, no matter if theist or atheist.
Lincoln was vocally anti-religious in his youth but became more spiritual over the course of his life… I don’t think he ever really qualified as a Christian but he wasn’t an Atheist either.
@...deuce:
Lincoln was a 100% atheist in that he didn’t believe that ‘god’ would create a world at permitted the shit that went on in his lifetime.
hitler was 100% religious in that he realized that using religion would be to his benefit. And just look at what he was able to do with religious outrage and conformity.
Their facial hair is complementary ergo they must have had opposite religious beliefs.
And please recognise that their hair is parted in opposite directions – even more proof.
But what do we make of Goebbles’ diary entry: “The Führer is deeply religious, but deeply anti-Christian. He regards Christianity as a symptom of decay.” ?
should read: Goebbels’
@...Goldfinger: he took advantage of the most powerful source of (most) centralized idiots
Hitler hated Christianity. Saying he was Christian is like saying Osama was Christian.
In a letter quoted by Joseph Lewis, Lincoln wrote “The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma.” Law partner William Herndon stated that Lincoln “was an infidel of the radical type… never mentioned the name of Jesus, except to scorn and detest the idea of a miraculous conception.” Wife Mary Todd Lincoln’s opinion was that “Mr. Lincoln had no hope and no faith in the usual acceptance of those words.”
Take that as you will.
Hitler was more involved with the occult than christianity. Plus what does religion have to do with whether or not a person is a bat shit insane murder? Joseph Stalin was atheist, so was Mao tse Tung and Slobodan Milosevic. Insanity and evil are not bound by religious beliefs.
PLUS for every evil atheist dictator there are religious ones too. And for every crazed religious nut jobs there are also good-hearted and generally benevolent ones too. Pictures like this just show that idiocy can come from something as “rational” and “logical” as atheism.
@...thelotuseater725: nobody is taking sides lol
@...thelotuseater725: but you are correct sir :), in every detail there will be a detail in that detail, this is part what makes us unique and completly different, so if i were to say in 1 word i would say “variations”
Hitler might have believed in God, but I don’t think he can really be labled a Christian, since Christians don’t advocate killing people. So I guess it’s a matter of what these men espoused versus how they measured up to their own beliefs. But like Goldfinger intoned, the theme here doesn’t stand up to even rudimentary scrutiny.
Thought I’d add my two cents in. Hitler was a self-hating Jew. You heard me, he was Jewish! he got picked on as a child by Jewish kids so he killed as many Jews as he could for revenge.
@...wol4ene:
Actually he wasn’t. That’s a lie that some people have passed around for years but it’s 100% bullshit. His grandmother worked for a rich Jewish family. That’s about as close as his lineage got to Judaic.
Both those men up there are politicians so they eat balls.
@...mAgnUS BUTTfoorson:
Hitler’s father alois shicklegruber was jewish, thus hitler was half jew, but who cares, hes still a jewish fail, but i think he took on Buddhism
lincoln was an atheist fail who just quoted religious phrases from the bible to make his speeches sound better
@...rattybad:REAL Christians don’t advocate killing people, but there are Christians that do and thats where thelotuseater725
was talking about
Yeah.. and mother Theresa was an atheist too, fyi. look that shit up.
@...KommissarKvC:
You mean Alois Schickelgruber and no he was not Jewish either.
I’m quite certain of this. The story is that some cousin tried to borrow money from Hitler or something and in retaliation he went around telling everyone Hitler was Jewish. This was pre WWII and was supposed to hurt his political career since of course Hitler didn’t invent antisemitism since it’s existed as long as there have been semetic peoples. In the end it was proven false via several investigations by partial and impartial government bodies.
@...mAgnUS BUTTfoorson:
well, that part with the jewish liar may have happened, but still, Hitler’s father was jewish,
but as for the anti-semitism, yes, is had been going on for a long time – i saw this movie that made a parody of hitler’s rise to power, and it had some jewish guy go see one of hitler’s beer-hall speeches, then say a good line: “You’d think after 500 years of anti-semitism, that my people would be used to it by now
@...Tenspace: When did he sent that letter? As deuce said, his ideas changed over time.
Also: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln_and_religion
Keep in mind that there are two kinds of Jewish: cultural and religious. One doesn’t have to be an ethnic or cultural Jew (i.e. an Israelite) to be a religious Jew. Walter Sobchak from The Big Lebowski, for example, was raised Polish Catholic but converted to Judaism when he married Cynthia, now his ex-wife.
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SOMEONE SEND THIS TO DAWKINS!!!!
i’m actually reading The God Delusion right now – got it for christmas
Monster vs. Monster
@...KommissarKvC:
lol So I’m right but I’m not right?
No. Hitler was not in any way part or whole Jewish. He was not Jewish. No matter how much you must wish he was the plain fact of the matter is his father was not Jewish.
His mother worked for some time as a servant to a Jewish family and another rumour was that she had an affair with the man of the house.
It’s all bullshit made up so people can squawk it and feel like they’ve got some tidbit of knowledge that will wow a room.
Hitler was anything but a Christian. I’ve purchased, and watched, an old WWII documentary, in which he basically said, “If God teaches against conquest, then God must go!”. Yeah, that really sounds like a Christian to me.
I have no idea on what Lincoln was, but if you read in depth about what his real motives were for starting the Civil War, you’ll find he is not the icon he was made out to be.
“The more you know about the past, the better prepared you are for the future” — Theodore Roosevelt