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    General X

    There are your basic two Muslim holidays. One is after the holy month of Ramadan, and the other one is during and right the pilgrimage of Haj. During this pilgrimage millions of Muslims from all around the world converge on the two holiest cities in all of Islam. While efforts are underway, constantly, to aleviate the crushing throng of people that gather at specific places to do very specific things in unison, death does indeed occur. Arafat is indeed one such place, actually one of the more prominent troublesome spots. It should also be noted that all of these locations are crowded year round.
    So, in an effort to alleviate congestion and help in the smooth running of the thing Non-Muslims are not allowed at these locations. Think of it like a rock concert where not all are allowed in certain areas so as to not create absolute chaos. It also helps with security.
    There might be some other reason, but I am not aware of it.

    dieAntagonista

    General X:
    Thanks for clarifying. I was sure there was some explanation.

    jpcarterisme

    The reason for the above sign is that non-Muslims are not allowed into Mecca (Makkah). I lived in Jeddah (Jidda), S.A. from 1974-1977. The govt. is real strict about this. This is the holiest place for Muslims. They pray towards Mecca when they pray 5 times per day.

    General X is right about the crowding. Due to the layout of the different areas that must be walked to, there are areas were stampedes have killed people.

    Non-Muslims do sneak in, however if they are caught, not so good for them.

    Good article that gives a short explanation:
    www.opinionjournal.com/taste/?id=110003943

    Medina is the other holy city in S.A.

    The Five Pillars of Islam on which a Muslim’s life is founded are:
    -The Testimony that there is none worthy of worship except God and that Muhammad is his messenger.
    -Establishing of the five daily Prayers (Salaah). These prayers are ritualistic in nature and adherence to the ritual practice is required. The location at which one prays is not strictly defined as long as one is able to establish the Qiblat.
    -The Giving of Zakaah (charity), which is generally 2.5% of the yearly savings for a rich man working in trade or industry, and 10% or 20% of the produce for agriculturists. This money or produce is distributed among the poor.
    -Refraining from eating, drinking and having sex from dawn to dusk in the month of Ramadhaan (Sawm).
    -The Pilgrimage (Hajj) to Mecca during the month of Zul Hijjah, which is compulsory once in a lifetime for one who has the ability to do it. This ability includes the financial means and the physical strength since the hajj can be strenuous. Also, one has to obtain a permit from the Saudi government which is granted based on an annual quota based on country.

    Holy Cities:
    Mecca – Medina
    Jerusalem
    Najaf – Karbala – Kufa

    njch412

    For a foreign language in my university, I am taking Arabic. I literally have 100’s of pictures of street signs and road signs saved on my computer to practice spelling in arabic.

    One thing that always made me laugh, is when in class our teacher was tellng us about himself. He said he was from the city of medina, which in arabic translates to “ana min medina medina”. I couldnt stop laughing at the repetitiveness of saying i am from the city of city. Then I cried because I realized how immature I was 🙁

    Destro

    Most of my friends who speak english as a second language complain that it is a confusing language. I tell them that it is efficient because it’s is a commercial language. They disagree with me but it’s okay because I’ve never met anyone from the city of town, or the village of neighborhood. It’s perfectly fine to laugh at someone who is knowingly saying something stupid, like you gotta die because you don’t believe in my god, or I am descended from the gods chosen people (respect my jew gold), or I have the right to publicly murder my whore of a daughter (because my bible tells me so), or I am from the city of city, so please do not laugh at my language or I shall think you immature.
    HARHAR…it is to laugh.

    warren

    Good. That tells us which lane to take when we deliver the bombs.

    vandal

    this = Black people here white people there in america, they are just still doing it.

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