@...nobody knows: could you be anymore than a dick with your useless spam?
dieAntagonista (#)
16 years ago
@...SumoSnipe:
Oh noes. You think it looks like a seagull? Damn it. I was afraid people would think that. It’s supposed to be a raven. I’m not good at drawing animals. Only women.
dieAntagonista (#)
16 years ago
@...zondron:
Sorry I fucked the page up. Didn’t realise what I was doing,
Yeah, part romanian? How’d you know.
Nice blog, though I can’t understand a word.
And you also found that video of that little girl,
telling the best story of the century.
dieAntagonista (#)
16 years ago
@...MonkeyHitman: Nice. You’ve got an acer-aspire? Me too.
But why are you still using Internet Explorer, tsk tsk.
SumoSnipe (#4452)
16 years ago
@dieAntagonista: I thought a raven at first, and from the caption, wondered if it was Thought or Memory. The seagull doubt was just from the shading of the wings…feh my eyes fail
@...SumoSnipe: Oh wait, now I get it. Thought and Memory! Ha sorry, I thought you meant something else.
It’s actually a picture I drew of my friend’s photo – i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll46/Panopticism/anja.jpg
It’s literally what I see when I close my eyes 😉
Your eyes are better than my drawing skills, trust me.
@...dieAntagonista:because 2 days a go i installed XP on a sata based acer .. fucked up the whole pc then i manage to fix it then now i have dual boot on this baby why? because pc games require less ghz cpu than vista and i dont have money for a P8600 2.4 ghz and i dont have the balls to OC this 900 euro laptop which im fucking broke means if it fucks up i am dead 🙂 but i use Opera or firefox very little
dieAntagonista (#)
16 years ago
@...zondron: Haha oops. Wait a second, your blog IS in Romanian. At first glance it looked like Spanish, I’m so silly.
I can read and speak Romanian, though I’m not so good at writing.
I never expect many Romanians on the Internet, or Romanian sites even.
Do you live there? How is it? I haven’t visited for a while, but I have family in Tinca and Oradea.
dieAntagonista (#)
16 years ago
@...MonkeyHitman: I see I see. Yeah I’ve also fucked up PC’s one too many times. Yes better be careful with that machinery.
Soooo…… I need a drinking buddy. Anybody live in the Rocky mountain timezone?
Because I will drive ridiculous lengths. Because I can. And because I can do my job with a hangover, and sleep deprivation isn’t an issue.
I’d drink distilled sugar with you. And sleep deprivation is a necessity. I don’t see how anybody gets anything done (like impregnating unsuspecting people’s mothers) when they waste two thirds of their life with sleeping.
SumoSnipe (#4452)
16 years ago
525 MonkeyHitman? nuh uh YOU said 9000 or bust…..
And just what part of the Rockies, Dr. Devine? Thats a lot of empty space between Canada and Mexico in this time zone..
We would have to go over there, die, yer not legal to drink here yet. 2/3 of a day sleeping? What do you think we are, cats? I don’t get more than 6 hours uninterrupted. Dogs, work, relations, MCS, zombies… just too many demands to get to laze in bed.
Knock one down, pass it around, 8600 posts to go on the wall….
dieAntagonista (#)
16 years ago
Oh yes you’re right. I forgot about that.
Haha you mean you’re not cats?! It’s actually a statistic I heard yesterday, people sleep 2/3 of their life. Seriously. And yeah I’m also all about the zombies. I usually sleep only 3 hours or so which is why I look like one.
So there I was in my driveway, balls deep in motor oil, with a tire iron in one hand and a rubber duck in the other, and this dude pulls his car up and parks that shit right in front of my view of the lesbian wedding across the street. He leans out the window and says: “Where can a brotha get some nugs around here?” and I busted out “What the fuck, hombre? How the hell you gonna ask me for favors when you’re sitting in a jeep Cherokee with “Fuck You, Whitey” decals on the side?”
And he started cryin’ like a bitch cause it was his racist brother’s car who’d just got killed by a rabid gopher and he didn’t have the money to get it redone, and all he wanted was some nugs to make him feel better. So I told him that I usually get my nugs down at Wendy’s and he took off cause I guess he was hungry like you read about. It wasn’t until a told my brother what happened that i reallized he wanted some chronic- cause I always called my chicken nuggets nugs.
Long story short, it took forever to get all the crazy glue out of my bedsheets.
@...SumoSnipe: I’m in Salt Lake at the moment. @... dieAntagonista:Sounds like decent drinking company, even if it is over the internet… What’s your drink?
This most seriously epic thread was decided at #105, and called at #203.
Cheers to y’all.
Imps will always rule. lol.
MCS FTW.
SumoSnipe (#4452)
15 years ago
Oh come now. Nothing was decided or called until about 475 or so…. and the only thing called was claims for highest count ever.
Albuquerque, Dr. Devine. Don’t forget to turn left.
greg_t (#4910)
15 years ago
lol
The gauntlet has been thrown.
Next epic thread?
Tiki, folks are waiting for you to stake the post…
@Phyreblade:Because each of those means a completely different thing. Most have something to do with sexual positions. So it is with good reason I chose “sally forth”, or to continue forward, rather than, oh, to “margaret forth”, or to take one in the bum while in prison.
@...Dr.Devine: Ah. Silly me. This is the Internets. I should have realized that to “Jenny forth” would, in all likelihood, have some other nefarious meaning…
@...Dr.Devine: Aww come on, there is no way something that sounds as cool as “To Gretchen Forth” means what you were describing.
Are you sure you aren’t confusing it with another one? Like “To Ingrid Forth”? That sounds more like the Unicorn Rainbow Mile High Club activity you described…
SumoSnipe (#4452)
15 years ago
Congratulations Phyreblade!The glory of 550 is Yours!We would ask what you are doing next, but I believe we have already been enlightened as to that. heh.
@Phyreblade: Well, perhaps I got it mixed up with to “roberta forth”……… I’m not quite sure. I do believe that “to ingrid forth” involves a carton of spoiled milk, some iceberg lettuce, a few horses, a fox hunt, and a cask of fine wine, among other things. Its been a while since I took my class on cleverly extrapolated analogies to cliched English expressions.
@...SumoSnipe: Why thank you, thank you, thank you very much… And for the record, I have absolutely no plans to either Ingrid or Olga forth…
As for Gretchening forth, well… I still think Dr. Devines definition is wrong… I think it involves a Swedish female flight attendant, not a Bolivian tranny… 😀
SumoSnipe (#4452)
15 years ago
Olga forth? No, at least I don’t think he is into penguins…the DeVito kind.
spoiled milk? and just what is wrong with Kuumiss?
@SumoSnipe: If you use Kuumiss, its called “To Gertrude Forth”, same general idea. @Phyreblade: Lets compromise, Swedish flight attendant that happens to be a post-op tranny.
Oh, man my ribs hurt now. I was waiting for her to beat the crap out of mr. popsicle, but the ending was so much more..words flee another laughing fit coming on. Thank you MonkeyHitman.
More useless posts. @... phyreblade: I just instinctively think of gretchen as a tranny name, I mean no parent would give that to their child, it would have to be the sort of choice you make while drunk, like a tattoo or something. And usually babies/ pregnant women don’t get drunk. But I’m sure preop transexuals filling out name change paperwork do….
eh.
Whats next? Why same thing we do every night Monkey. Try to take over the world.
Dr. Devine:$2.35 should cover it. Your nemisis has become very low key.
natedog? deiAntagonista? you said 9000+. Get in here!
dieAntagonista (#)
15 years ago
Alright then. You people have heard of Chuck Klosterman’s 23 Questions Of Doom? I’ll ask one question at a time, and you answer. Then I’ll ask the next one and so on.
dieAntagonista (#)
15 years ago
1. Let us assume you met a rudimentary magician. Let us assume he can do five simple tricksâ€â€he can pull a rabbit out of his hat, he can make a coin disappear, he can turn the ace of spades into the Joker card, and two others in a similar vein. These are his only tricks and he can’t learn any more; he can only do these five. HOWEVER, it turns out he’s doing these five tricks with real magic. It’s not an illusion; he can actually conjure the bunny out of the ether and he can move the coin through space. He’s legitimately magical, but extremely limited in scope and influence.
Would this person be more impressive than Albert Einstein?
i would say no
because Albert continues to study and search and as time goes by he keeps learning more things as the magician will ONLY know the 5 tricks.. my answer is centralized in Quantity
Einstein is an outstanding example of a brilliant scientist.
Let us assume that the magician can do real magic. Let us assume he can do only the same 5 tricks. This tells us that real magic exists. I would assume that there are levels of real magic ability. I would guess that 5 tricks is a pretty low level.
I would say yes. If legitimate magic ever were to exist, that would far surpass any understanding of science, and thus easily beat Einstein. Not to mention, you guys forget that this guy has the potential to overpopulate the world with rabbits, reboost our economy by making large amounts of our currency disapear, and he obviously has the ability to transmutate playing cards, which would allow hm to destroy in vegas.
Thus, petty magician for the win, mostly due to the cross application of his five tricks.
Both Nyokki and Dr. Devine have excellent points, however I agree with Nyokki.
From a “solving world hunger” perspective, since we are specifically told that the Magicians ability is extremely limited in scope and influence, it is extremely unlikely that he would be able to apply them to solving global issues.
I mean think about it. How many rabbits could he pull out of a hat, hour after hour, day after day, week after week, etc, ad nauseum, to feed the odd 1.5 to 2 billion of the worlds population that live in poverty, on a daily basis. Same applies for transmuting currency etc.
That’s not to say that Einstein could do any better on those specific fronts, however in terms of coming up with solutions that could have globally beneficial applications, well, during his time, he demonstrated his abilities many times over…
Einstein FTW.
dieAntagonista (#)
15 years ago
At first I was thinking the same as nyokki, MonkeyHitman, and Phyreblade but the overpopulating with rabbits thing is a pretty good argument.
2. Let us assume a fully grown, completely healthy Clydesdale horse has his hooves shackled to the ground while his head is held in place with thick rope. He is conscious and standing upright, but completely immobile. And let us assume thatâ€â€for some reasonâ€â€every political prisoner on earth (as cited by Amnesty International) will be released from captivity if you can kick this horse to death in less than twenty minutes. You are allowed to wear steel-toed boots.
logically No, because a political prisoner should be freed because it is proven that they were wrongly jailed, not because I kicked the shit out of some horse.
Agree on that point. No. wouldn’t do it. For the same reason MH provided.
Just out of curiosity, dieAntagonista/Dr. Devine, I was wondering how it would be possible to overpopulate the earth with rabbits pulled from a hat.
I may be missing something, but I keep running into two problems. The first is the one i mentioned before, vis a vis how many rabbits would need to be pulled per day, in order to solve world hunger.
The second is, we couldn’t just let them breed, to compensate for the first weakness, because as much as they are known to reproduce, they also need to eat, (and feed their young to boot), and that poses it’s own paradox. We wouldn’t be able to provide enough food to feed them all until they got big enough to eat…
Not trying to set the thread back or anything, just wondering if you had thought of something I hadn’t…
Good points, all of them. The other thing I was thinking was that doing magic takes energy, so it’s not clear the magician could do this non-stop for very long.
I definitely wouldn’t try to kick a horse to death, regardless of equipment. I don’t have that viciousness in me (I hope). What would really be the point of freeing a human by killing an animal in such a way? What would that make me?
I once again, play devil’s advocate. I would kick the horse to death, regardless of the ontological impact it would have on my self. Mostly because I am one person and a trussed up clydesdale, while there are probably, at least logically speaking, boatloads of political prisoners currently suffering. The destruction of my personality and the destruction of the horse are absolutely nothing when compared to the physical and mental destruction of these prisoners. So, killing the horse has utilitarian value, and I’d be bound as a generally “good” human being to kill it in order to save the masses.
And to answer the arguments saying these people should be freed because they were wrongly jailed… saying that is nice and all, but it doesn’t actually help, because those people are still rotting in the prisons. If given the chance to make an active change, there is a moral contract to kill the horse.
At least for me there is.
And besides, now that I think about it, you’d just have to kick the poor animal in the neck a couple times, and then it would be dead. There wouldn’t really be as much psychological damage really. It would just be a bummer.
@phyreblade/nyokki: The magic was not limited, only the magician. So the magician can remain relatively unknown while he is, continuously, making coins dissapear and rabbits come into existence, continuously, day after day. He would be biting the bullet, and solving massive problems with the world by simply performing these tasks over and over.
Vulcan ethics wouldn’t really help me much. A freed prisoner may carry the guilt of what happened to the horse and it killer and end up like Dostoevsky. I’ve always wondered what it does to a executioner to do that job for any length of time. Any sociologists/psychologists around?
The magician, being limited, would not be able to continuously making rabbits appear. All my research (lol) leads me to think that he would have to take long rests in which he rebuilt his magical energy. Mana of some sort may help, but again, being limited, he would have to stop for a given period of time (prolly a significant amount), enough to make his gains less than relevant. Perhaps?
SumoSnipe (#4452)
15 years ago
Einstein > magician.
And no, I would not kick the horse. Shetland pony, yes. Evil little bastards must be eliminated, and if it helps a free a few people that don’t deserve imprisonment, all the better.
@...Dr. Devine:
Killing an immobile horse in twenty minutes would not be difficult. The tricky part is circumventing the preconceived notions of what a “political” prisoner really is.
Political prisoners are not all inherently good people who have been illegally detained by a bad government. Sometimes they are bad people.
The determining factor is that there is detainment, generally without any attempt at due process, by a political regime.
If you are a proponent of the bad guys going free along with the good guys, then the only moral dilemma would be whether you could kill a horse.
However considering that some of those “bad” political prisoners might lots of other people if they go free, it could nullify whatever benefit letting the good folks out might provide.
So I’d really rather not base the decision on how well I know equine physiology, but on the nature of the individuals in question.
Also wrt the magician, in addition to Nyokkis point, I think the devil is in the unseen details. Even if he is able to sit there and keep pulling rabbits (which I seriously doubt a human could do 24/7/365), the issues of storage, transportation, processing, logistics, etc. may actually be pose greater obstacles to using his abilities than his inherent weaknesses.
@...nyokki:
While I understand your horror at the idea of killing a horse, we kill cows, pigs, fish, chickens etc, on a massive scale, on a daily basis.
Why would it be any more heinous to kill a horse over a cow? Especially if it could do massive good?
@...Phyreblade: It may not be 100% consistent or rational, but there is (for me) a distinction to be made between food be killed and me killing an animal who just happens to be the wrong horse in the wrong stall at the wrong time. I’ve no problem w/ other people hunting. I have no problem w/ other people enjoying hunting. It just ain’t gonna be me. I would really resent being put in that position and that would color me belief that killing the horse would, in fact, produce the desired effect. There’s also the problem of the horse being tied into immovability. It’s just more brutal than I could be. I think. I don’t know what I might actually be capable of doing under certain conditions. If it were my husband, kids, mom, etc…I might.
500!!!!!!!!!!!!11
fuck all you basters!!
this just made my life complet.
Nope, not at 500 yet.
still at 489.
Bwahaha
I’m gonna get there before you do.
All by myself.
Unless someone feels like a conversation.
Doooobie dooobie dee bop doo….
dee bop diddly doo
Soooo………..
How about that abortion?
Abortion? I thought we had stopped arguing about the 2000 presidential election a while ago….
@...Dr.Devine: 9000 is not going to cut it
there must be OVER 9000 or it’s a no go
500 smivehundred
THIS WILL BE AS NOTHING BY THE TIME THE DUST SETTLES
i call dibs on the 9001 GET
@...nobody knows: could you be anymore than a dick with your useless spam?
@...SumoSnipe:
Oh noes. You think it looks like a seagull? Damn it. I was afraid people would think that. It’s supposed to be a raven. I’m not good at drawing animals. Only women.
@...zondron:
Sorry I fucked the page up. Didn’t realise what I was doing,
Yeah, part romanian? How’d you know.
Nice blog, though I can’t understand a word.
And you also found that video of that little girl,
telling the best story of the century.
@...MonkeyHitman: Nice. You’ve got an acer-aspire? Me too.
But why are you still using Internet Explorer, tsk tsk.
@dieAntagonista: I thought a raven at first, and from the caption, wondered if it was Thought or Memory. The seagull doubt was just from the shading of the wings…feh my eyes fail
@...dieAntagonista: from your myspace account, you have an image there
the blog has mixt language 🙂
@...tiki god: you fixed it, but it still goes a little over the third column
@...tiki god: nevermind, i know why 🙂
OH THANK YOU ALMIGHTY TIKI GOD
@...SumoSnipe: Oh wait, now I get it. Thought and Memory! Ha sorry, I thought you meant something else.
It’s actually a picture I drew of my friend’s photo –
i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll46/Panopticism/anja.jpg
It’s literally what I see when I close my eyes 😉
Your eyes are better than my drawing skills, trust me.
@...dieAntagonista:because 2 days a go i installed XP on a sata based acer .. fucked up the whole pc then i manage to fix it then now i have dual boot on this baby why? because pc games require less ghz cpu than vista and i dont have money for a P8600 2.4 ghz and i dont have the balls to OC this 900 euro laptop which im fucking broke means if it fucks up i am dead 🙂 but i use Opera or firefox very little
@...zondron: Haha oops. Wait a second, your blog IS in Romanian. At first glance it looked like Spanish, I’m so silly.
I can read and speak Romanian, though I’m not so good at writing.
I never expect many Romanians on the Internet, or Romanian sites even.
Do you live there? How is it? I haven’t visited for a while, but I have family in Tinca and Oradea.
@...MonkeyHitman: I see I see. Yeah I’ve also fucked up PC’s one too many times. Yes better be careful with that machinery.
@...dieAntagonista:
that’s funny because i have family in your mom’s house.
(it’s your little sister!)
@...elzarcothepale: THis Is Madn3ss!!!
PS: 525 crown ?
Soooo…… I need a drinking buddy. Anybody live in the Rocky mountain timezone?
Because I will drive ridiculous lengths. Because I can. And because I can do my job with a hangover, and sleep deprivation isn’t an issue.
Hooray!
I’d drink distilled sugar with you. And sleep deprivation is a necessity. I don’t see how anybody gets anything done (like impregnating unsuspecting people’s mothers) when they waste two thirds of their life with sleeping.
525 MonkeyHitman? nuh uh YOU said 9000 or bust…..
And just what part of the Rockies, Dr. Devine? Thats a lot of empty space between Canada and Mexico in this time zone..
@...dieAntagonista: i sent you a pm on myspace
@...SumoSnipe: nate dog said 9001 so…
www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/moldy-bible.jpg
This fucker is laughing at you.
We would have to go over there, die, yer not legal to drink here yet. 2/3 of a day sleeping? What do you think we are, cats? I don’t get more than 6 hours uninterrupted. Dogs, work, relations, MCS, zombies… just too many demands to get to laze in bed.
Knock one down, pass it around, 8600 posts to go on the wall….
Oh yes you’re right. I forgot about that.
Haha you mean you’re not cats?! It’s actually a statistic I heard yesterday, people sleep 2/3 of their life. Seriously. And yeah I’m also all about the zombies. I usually sleep only 3 hours or so which is why I look like one.
hmm havent slept for 3 days … just eating healty to keep my energy and eating a shitload of banana’s i think i should sleep >_<
and its great to see “some” people comment on here .. where is tiki btw
So there I was in my driveway, balls deep in motor oil, with a tire iron in one hand and a rubber duck in the other, and this dude pulls his car up and parks that shit right in front of my view of the lesbian wedding across the street. He leans out the window and says: “Where can a brotha get some nugs around here?” and I busted out “What the fuck, hombre? How the hell you gonna ask me for favors when you’re sitting in a jeep Cherokee with “Fuck You, Whitey” decals on the side?”
And he started cryin’ like a bitch cause it was his racist brother’s car who’d just got killed by a rabid gopher and he didn’t have the money to get it redone, and all he wanted was some nugs to make him feel better. So I told him that I usually get my nugs down at Wendy’s and he took off cause I guess he was hungry like you read about. It wasn’t until a told my brother what happened that i reallized he wanted some chronic- cause I always called my chicken nuggets nugs.
Long story short, it took forever to get all the crazy glue out of my bedsheets.
@...elzarcothepale: ROFLMAO… That is the funniest thing I’ve head all week…
*heard* Funniest thing I’ve *heard* all week… …
Heh. Looks like we lost steam. and 550 was so close. Well in case This is the end and I don’t see you..gooday, good afternoon, and goodnight.
No, I refuse. This is not the end. We must sally forth, and what not.
9000.
@...SumoSnipe: I’m in Salt Lake at the moment.
@... dieAntagonista:Sounds like decent drinking company, even if it is over the internet… What’s your drink?
bump for great justice
lulz.
This most seriously epic thread was decided at #105, and called at #203.
Cheers to y’all.
Imps will always rule. lol.
MCS FTW.
Oh come now. Nothing was decided or called until about 475 or so…. and the only thing called was claims for highest count ever.
Albuquerque, Dr. Devine. Don’t forget to turn left.
lol
The gauntlet has been thrown.
Next epic thread?
Tiki, folks are waiting for you to stake the post…
🙂
I will say again, the only path ahead is deity rape.
@...Dr.Devine: I’ve always wondered why we “sally” forth… Why not “Jane”? Or “Patty”? I think it would be fun to “Lucy” forth every once in a while…
@Phyreblade:Because each of those means a completely different thing. Most have something to do with sexual positions. So it is with good reason I chose “sally forth”, or to continue forward, rather than, oh, to “margaret forth”, or to take one in the bum while in prison.
@...Dr.Devine: Ah. Silly me. This is the internet. I should have realized that to “Jenny forth” in all likelihood have some other nefarious meaning…
No Exceptions…
@...Dr.Devine: Ah. Silly me. This is the Internets. I should have realized that to “Jenny forth” would, in all likelihood, have some other nefarious meaning…
No Exceptions…
What the… Ok then… I’m just gonna back away from the keyboard, real slow like, and get help…
It’s settled then.
We shall Gretchen forth.
@Luke Magnifico: You mean give a reach around to a pre-op transexual hooker from Bolivia in an airplane bathroom going across the Atlantic?
shhhhhhhhhhh dont talk like that
Who me?
@Phyreblade: Don’t worry about it, Schizophrenia is very common in…. okay, maybe not.
ya ^^
Please, I was just defining “gretchen forth”.
@...Dr.Devine: Aww come on, there is no way something that sounds as cool as “To Gretchen Forth” means what you were describing.
Are you sure you aren’t confusing it with another one? Like “To Ingrid Forth”? That sounds more like the Unicorn Rainbow Mile High Club activity you described…
Congratulations Phyreblade!The glory of 550 is Yours!We would ask what you are doing next, but I believe we have already been enlightened as to that. heh.
@Phyreblade: Well, perhaps I got it mixed up with to “roberta forth”……… I’m not quite sure. I do believe that “to ingrid forth” involves a carton of spoiled milk, some iceberg lettuce, a few horses, a fox hunt, and a cask of fine wine, among other things. Its been a while since I took my class on cleverly extrapolated analogies to cliched English expressions.
@SumoSnipe: What, you think hes going to Olga forth? disgusting my good man. Disgusting.
@...SumoSnipe: Why thank you, thank you, thank you very much… And for the record, I have absolutely no plans to either Ingrid or Olga forth…
As for Gretchening forth, well… I still think Dr. Devines definition is wrong… I think it involves a Swedish female flight attendant, not a Bolivian tranny… 😀
Olga forth? No, at least I don’t think he is into penguins…the DeVito kind.
spoiled milk? and just what is wrong with Kuumiss?
@SumoSnipe: If you use Kuumiss, its called “To Gertrude Forth”, same general idea.
@Phyreblade: Lets compromise, Swedish flight attendant that happens to be a post-op tranny.
like this xD for a flight attendant
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNUq1Kb5OTI&feature=related
Oh, god damn it, thats fucking amazing!
Oh, man my ribs hurt now. I was waiting for her to beat the crap out of mr. popsicle, but the ending was so much more..words flee another laughing fit coming on. Thank you MonkeyHitman.
you are most certainly welcome
That was fucken funny.
@...Dr.Devine: Ya just don’t wanna budge on the tranny thing eh? Ok, fine.
@...MonkeyHitman: Yes… Exactly… ROFLMAO…
another useless post
another useless spam*
More useless posts.
@... phyreblade: I just instinctively think of gretchen as a tranny name, I mean no parent would give that to their child, it would have to be the sort of choice you make while drunk, like a tattoo or something. And usually babies/ pregnant women don’t get drunk. But I’m sure preop transexuals filling out name change paperwork do….
eh.
And: 575!
I claim this post in the name of the United States of Devine.
so whats next ?
I’m not sure. I think there needs to be moar postage on this. Thats what I think.
yes like people who checks back in it and type
Whats next? Why same thing we do every night Monkey. Try to take over the world.
Dr. Devine:$2.35 should cover it. Your nemisis has become very low key.
natedog? deiAntagonista? you said 9000+. Get in here!
Alright then. You people have heard of Chuck Klosterman’s 23 Questions Of Doom? I’ll ask one question at a time, and you answer. Then I’ll ask the next one and so on.
1. Let us assume you met a rudimentary magician. Let us assume he can do five simple tricksâ€â€he can pull a rabbit out of his hat, he can make a coin disappear, he can turn the ace of spades into the Joker card, and two others in a similar vein. These are his only tricks and he can’t learn any more; he can only do these five. HOWEVER, it turns out he’s doing these five tricks with real magic. It’s not an illusion; he can actually conjure the bunny out of the ether and he can move the coin through space. He’s legitimately magical, but extremely limited in scope and influence.
Would this person be more impressive than Albert Einstein?
i would say no
because Albert continues to study and search and as time goes by he keeps learning more things as the magician will ONLY know the 5 tricks.. my answer is centralized in Quantity
Einstein is an outstanding example of a brilliant scientist.
Let us assume that the magician can do real magic. Let us assume he can do only the same 5 tricks. This tells us that real magic exists. I would assume that there are levels of real magic ability. I would guess that 5 tricks is a pretty low level.
Einstein FTW!
I would say yes. If legitimate magic ever were to exist, that would far surpass any understanding of science, and thus easily beat Einstein. Not to mention, you guys forget that this guy has the potential to overpopulate the world with rabbits, reboost our economy by making large amounts of our currency disapear, and he obviously has the ability to transmutate playing cards, which would allow hm to destroy in vegas.
Thus, petty magician for the win, mostly due to the cross application of his five tricks.
@...Dr.Devine: Good points.
Next question?
Sure. I’m ready. Also….. Just got me thinking, those rabbits could solve world hunger…..
Heh… dieAntagonista with thread CPR LOL…
Both Nyokki and Dr. Devine have excellent points, however I agree with Nyokki.
From a “solving world hunger” perspective, since we are specifically told that the Magicians ability is extremely limited in scope and influence, it is extremely unlikely that he would be able to apply them to solving global issues.
I mean think about it. How many rabbits could he pull out of a hat, hour after hour, day after day, week after week, etc, ad nauseum, to feed the odd 1.5 to 2 billion of the worlds population that live in poverty, on a daily basis. Same applies for transmuting currency etc.
That’s not to say that Einstein could do any better on those specific fronts, however in terms of coming up with solutions that could have globally beneficial applications, well, during his time, he demonstrated his abilities many times over…
Einstein FTW.
At first I was thinking the same as nyokki, MonkeyHitman, and Phyreblade but the overpopulating with rabbits thing is a pretty good argument.
2. Let us assume a fully grown, completely healthy Clydesdale horse has his hooves shackled to the ground while his head is held in place with thick rope. He is conscious and standing upright, but completely immobile. And let us assume thatâ€â€for some reasonâ€â€every political prisoner on earth (as cited by Amnesty International) will be released from captivity if you can kick this horse to death in less than twenty minutes. You are allowed to wear steel-toed boots.
Would you attempt to do this?
logically No, because a political prisoner should be freed because it is proven that they were wrongly jailed, not because I kicked the shit out of some horse.
Agree on that point. No. wouldn’t do it. For the same reason MH provided.
Just out of curiosity, dieAntagonista/Dr. Devine, I was wondering how it would be possible to overpopulate the earth with rabbits pulled from a hat.
I may be missing something, but I keep running into two problems. The first is the one i mentioned before, vis a vis how many rabbits would need to be pulled per day, in order to solve world hunger.
The second is, we couldn’t just let them breed, to compensate for the first weakness, because as much as they are known to reproduce, they also need to eat, (and feed their young to boot), and that poses it’s own paradox. We wouldn’t be able to provide enough food to feed them all until they got big enough to eat…
Not trying to set the thread back or anything, just wondering if you had thought of something I hadn’t…
Or am I missing the point of the thread… 🙂
Good points, all of them. The other thing I was thinking was that doing magic takes energy, so it’s not clear the magician could do this non-stop for very long.
I definitely wouldn’t try to kick a horse to death, regardless of equipment. I don’t have that viciousness in me (I hope). What would really be the point of freeing a human by killing an animal in such a way? What would that make me?
@...nyokki: “A Human Being” 😉
I once again, play devil’s advocate. I would kick the horse to death, regardless of the ontological impact it would have on my self. Mostly because I am one person and a trussed up clydesdale, while there are probably, at least logically speaking, boatloads of political prisoners currently suffering. The destruction of my personality and the destruction of the horse are absolutely nothing when compared to the physical and mental destruction of these prisoners. So, killing the horse has utilitarian value, and I’d be bound as a generally “good” human being to kill it in order to save the masses.
And to answer the arguments saying these people should be freed because they were wrongly jailed… saying that is nice and all, but it doesn’t actually help, because those people are still rotting in the prisons. If given the chance to make an active change, there is a moral contract to kill the horse.
At least for me there is.
And besides, now that I think about it, you’d just have to kick the poor animal in the neck a couple times, and then it would be dead. There wouldn’t really be as much psychological damage really. It would just be a bummer.
@phyreblade/nyokki: The magic was not limited, only the magician. So the magician can remain relatively unknown while he is, continuously, making coins dissapear and rabbits come into existence, continuously, day after day. He would be biting the bullet, and solving massive problems with the world by simply performing these tasks over and over.
Vulcan ethics wouldn’t really help me much. A freed prisoner may carry the guilt of what happened to the horse and it killer and end up like Dostoevsky. I’ve always wondered what it does to a executioner to do that job for any length of time. Any sociologists/psychologists around?
The magician, being limited, would not be able to continuously making rabbits appear. All my research (lol) leads me to think that he would have to take long rests in which he rebuilt his magical energy. Mana of some sort may help, but again, being limited, he would have to stop for a given period of time (prolly a significant amount), enough to make his gains less than relevant. Perhaps?
Einstein > magician.
And no, I would not kick the horse. Shetland pony, yes. Evil little bastards must be eliminated, and if it helps a free a few people that don’t deserve imprisonment, all the better.
@...Dr. Devine:
Killing an immobile horse in twenty minutes would not be difficult. The tricky part is circumventing the preconceived notions of what a “political” prisoner really is.
Political prisoners are not all inherently good people who have been illegally detained by a bad government. Sometimes they are bad people.
The determining factor is that there is detainment, generally without any attempt at due process, by a political regime.
If you are a proponent of the bad guys going free along with the good guys, then the only moral dilemma would be whether you could kill a horse.
However considering that some of those “bad” political prisoners might lots of other people if they go free, it could nullify whatever benefit letting the good folks out might provide.
So I’d really rather not base the decision on how well I know equine physiology, but on the nature of the individuals in question.
Also wrt the magician, in addition to Nyokkis point, I think the devil is in the unseen details. Even if he is able to sit there and keep pulling rabbits (which I seriously doubt a human could do 24/7/365), the issues of storage, transportation, processing, logistics, etc. may actually be pose greater obstacles to using his abilities than his inherent weaknesses.
@...nyokki:
While I understand your horror at the idea of killing a horse, we kill cows, pigs, fish, chickens etc, on a massive scale, on a daily basis.
Why would it be any more heinous to kill a horse over a cow? Especially if it could do massive good?
@...Phyreblade: It may not be 100% consistent or rational, but there is (for me) a distinction to be made between food be killed and me killing an animal who just happens to be the wrong horse in the wrong stall at the wrong time. I’ve no problem w/ other people hunting. I have no problem w/ other people enjoying hunting. It just ain’t gonna be me. I would really resent being put in that position and that would color me belief that killing the horse would, in fact, produce the desired effect. There’s also the problem of the horse being tied into immovability. It’s just more brutal than I could be. I think. I don’t know what I might actually be capable of doing under certain conditions. If it were my husband, kids, mom, etc…I might.
@...dieAntagonista: BTW, nice thread saver.
Indeed. bump, set…..
It’s gonna take a while to get to 9000. However: 600!