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@...dieAntagonista: pervert or freaky lol
@...dieAntagonista: Giving or taking the spanks?
@...SumoSnipe: taking of course …pshh i thought i knew you sumo
@...ColombianMonkey: Just wanted to be clear…..But want to hear it from her.
oh okay … *phew* thought you was a goner
@...ColombianMonkey: as for the yacht cruise, better be more than a three hour tour…
“Give yourself over to absolute pleasure
Swim the warm waters of sins of the flesh
Erotic nightmares beyond any measure
And sensual daydreams to treasure forever”
Alright, I’m officially “back”. Anyone care to recap what went down while I was gone? I’m to lazy to go through and read the posts.
hmm nothing much
Well my attempt to call out our prey was unsuccessful. Any other Ideas?
@...SumoSnipe: Don’t think we can get him back here. Perhaps a new posted pic thread?
like??
Actually we could just follow him around; find him where he’s posting. I haven’t been a troll in years, maybe decades. lol
Fuck. Yeah last comment.
well all right then. we will romp in the snows of vegas pic, and see what else we can find. Everyone sharpen their dragon pokey sticks? To misqoute the beginning of one of my favorite tales…
” With a bottle of sake and the ten pound Hammer, SumoSnipe set forth to find the Dragon.”
@...nobody knows: Nope that’s mine.
@...nyokki: really no ..
but why everyone is gone !!!!
i mean come on. i will pay tiki!!!! for the ads on all 4 sides directing to this link.!
let’s get more ppl in here and also check the box that when someone replies u get a mail.Come on people lets strive for 1500 i know we can do it
@...ColombianMonkey: I don’t know where everyone went. They may come back after the holidays.
@...nyokki: i hope you’re right
Oh, I’m still here….waiting for my ice cream!
@...SumoSnipe: My bad. What flavor?
Hmmm. Need to eliminate a rival. Do you think Pralines and Cream or Pecan Sandy would go best with Sauteed Monkey? He is stealing our girl.
1g tub of pralines and cream coming up.
ewww :\
Eww? Eww what?
@...SumoSnipe: which girl?
@...ColombianMonkey: dieAntagonista. Or would you prefer to be BBQ or a nice dry rub? I have had fried monkey on a stick, but declined monkey tartar. I’m just not too keen on raw red meat.
This thread is hilarious.
“BIBLE”
“aaargh”
“wat?”
“Lol”
“I want to have sex with DieAntagonista.”
“Riddles”
“No, seriously. I want in her pants”
“Idle conversation”
“America is gr8!”
“I still want to get in her pants, guys. I’m not going to stop.”
I will leave you to guess who these people are. Some of them are two people.
hmmm i wonder how she feels/think about this.
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in other news: she already got branded by me :\ kinda late 4 you. If you manage to see her rear. you see she got branded
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but ofcourse not with a hot coil. hehehe if you know what i mean
@...SumoSnipe: you will never take me alive ! *pirate accent*
i spawn the demons of Colombia to ascend from from there villages to rain the devil’s dandruff (Cocaine) upon your land www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpGtgZw5Z_U
so. . . anyone going to PAX next year?
it’s the only nerd convention that i attend, and it’d be cool to have cross country acquaintances to meet up with.
one year i tried bringing my normal friends and. . . well, lets just say they are a little too cool to handle the atmosphere.
Anyway- it’s in Seattle in August- usually on the weekend of the 23rd-ish
@...elzarcothepale: nope too far
@...elzarcothepale: Nor me.
aw damn. Luke found us out. Everyone here but riverdaledragon wants in your pants, dieAntagonista. Jig is up guys and gals. I am so ashamed to use the pure and innocent internet to pursue my base, dark desires.
@...ColombianMonkey: Take you alive? that was never my intention.
@...SumoSnipe: how can you take something that you cannot take back?
@...ColombianMonkey: Never fear. I worked for the Government. They were experts on taking the un takeable take back to take of that which should not have been taken from the original entities that engaged in the first taking of and taking it to those from whom it should not have been took.
A tutor who tooted the flute, tried to tutor two tooters to toot. Said the two to the tutor, is it harder to toot or to tutor two tooters to toot?
@...ColombianMonkey: wait. I forgot. What was I taking? Besides advantage of riverdaledragon
@...nyokki: stop messing with meeeeeeee !! *Achmed voice*
@...ColombianMonkey: I keel you!
@...nyokki: @...ColombianMonkey: TIME OUT! while we were scrapping, we seem to have lost the prize……. I think sylvanish swooped in and ran off with her….
@...SumoSnipe: Heheh, I think she abandoned us.
@...SumoSnipe: negative.
@...nyokki: now you know why i tell SumoSnipe how can he take something that’s untakeable. But i haven’t given up on hope, i know when i watch the full moon she’s watching the same time while on her way to post on this topic. She just don’t know what to say. @...SumoSnipe: shall we try to bait her out here ? you get the fishing net and I’ll get the candy. all we have to do is wear the geek squad uniforms and she totally fall for it.
OMG NO! I love you people. This thread made my day.
To answer your question, I’m certain a sex orgy would solve all our problems. Too bad I’m a vegetarian, ahaha.
But I think the mister doctor is the one who abandoned us.
And you missed the chat last night! We went over to Skype and talked on there. With Dreth and some other dude. It was good.
If I don’t come here as often, it’s because I’ve been doing a lot of this –> i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll46/Panopticism/IMG_0407.jpg
Hi again. 😀 I’m actually back. Sorry, I’ve been busy…..
So whats this about an orgy?
Not tonight, all My Sweets, I am much tired.But: A health to the company of incredible beings.
@...dieAntagonista: sure np come holland and i’ll be so devine. turn you into a omnivore. why nobody gives me the memo.. i got skype! well my brother have a waist high one from the ground. where im able to access whenever i want. @...SumoSnipe: like ?
referring to the picture u send dieA @...SumoSnipe: why is it when your see orgy you suddenly pop up!
@...SumoSnipe: A zombie killing machine like you can get tired?!
@...ColombianMonkey: Try me.
And yea, tiki made that post, he should announce it earlier when the chat is going to be.
My Skype: dieAntagonista
I have also AIM: dieAntagonista
It’s kinda way to easy to stalk me. Good god.
@...dieAntagonista: sure no problem. but i’m a msn guy not aim lol but do i get to make fun of your funny accent if you have one ?
@...ColombianMonkey: MSN? Boo.
Well luckily I don’t have the typical Austrian accent. What I do have, is a mix between a Russian and French accent, for some illogical reason. If you make fun of my accent I’m going to jump at you through the screen. So consider the consequences before you do anything inconsiderate.
I sound pretty young though, as long as that doesn’t freak you out.
MY COCK IS SO HARD
@...dieAntagonista: jump through the screen lol sure. i will catch your fall but my laptop is 15,4 inch wide lol soo dunno if you would fit
@...dieAntagonista: there is no fun stalking someone who is so easy stalkable
@...dieAntagonista: I’m out of practice. wookie_x is the best zombie hunter in New Mexico. He does not leave much for me to work out on.But since he is a specialist, that leaves me to clean up last nights chupacabra infestation. Those little buggers are faster and meaner than a jackalope in the rutting season.
By the way, many thanks to recondomoe (YAY) for recovering the picture of riverdaledragon from my busted cell phone. If you wish to see it follow the link, but I must warn you, It cannot be unseen.
www.myconfinedspace.com/2008/12/30/most-popular-guy-in-prison/
@...ColombianMonkey: 3 shots of rum, 75 grains black powder(NOT SMOKELESS),1 shot creme de menthe, chase with lime juice. CHEERS!
@...natedog: hopefully your dragon lure works better than mine did…..
Well it should homosexuals dig the hard cocks. I should know.
MONSTER TRUCKS, FOOTBALL!
Had to reassert the manliness.
And I think I’ve seen that ass before.. by god, I have!
Maybe we should tell him that there are chicks here and they’re hittin’ on the gay dudes.
@...nyokki: no never work
BUT neverless i come in hope with i bring gifts to you all
Riverdale’s school => www.riverdale.k12.or.us/riverdale/site/default.asp if you let the pictures slide you see some stone statue’s of dicks, no joke lol pretty funny thou.
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Riverdale’s Youtube => www.youtube.com/riverdaledragon
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Riverdale’s Action in Chatroom => chatlogs.meebo.com/room/chat701d59ff/logs/2008/07/13/page15/
just Ctrl+F and type riverdale, you will see how he try to make comminication with 13 to 15 year old’s bi-sexuals but in this attempt he was just ignored. poor guy LOL he try soo hard
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and other bs websites that are not even worth mcs space.
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forgive me guys, i have sinned by posting anything relating to this child molester :\
The YouTube video on the sea turtle and man-o-war was actually kind of interesting. But I still despise him. lol
They do look like stone penises.
The meebo chat log was just embarrassing. Ick!
@...ColombianMonkey: Bahaha. Yeah I’ve seen that meebo chat thing already. That’s why I said that he’s a liar.
A married Christian who is looking for bi girls? Yeah right. And I’m Queen Elizabeth and into BDSM.
@...dieAntagonista: really ? *pack my luggage*
Careful Monkey. I think you might end up being the one tied down, Her being the Queen……
bah, can never happen
Wow,you guys take this shit way to serious.
Have any of you even mention the FUCKING MOLDY BIBLE?
yes ^^
@...nobody knows: Yes, way back when.
@...nobody knows: Moi, serious?????
pffft. The only thing I cared about in that pic was if those fungi were edible or not. The medium they were feeding on did not mean much to me, I am not a christian.
My interest in riverdaledragon was his claim to be in the armed service. I truly hope he was lying, otherwise the US army/reserve/national guard is truly hurting for warm bodies.
@...SumoSnipe: hey, I’m not your fucking hitman anymore as you can see i changed my ways to Colombian. go find another hitman to do you’re dirty work.
@...ColombianMonkey: Heh. No problem I do my own dirty work. As it was I thought you only specialized in assassinating primates as The MonkeyHitman.(my apologies, but that’s the way my brain read it!) And since I like leaving an evil monkey or two in peoples closets, I thought that it was best that our relationship be a friendly one, not a professional one.
no i don’t specialize in primates only,www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpsNNVtNllc
and it can be both friendly and professional :\
@...ColombianMonkey:
Yo sorry I’m replying just now, but that night I was sorta drunk and didn’t realise where I commented. And I thought I’d reply here, rather than in that thread infected by grey mindedness. >_>
Yea I agree, the Internet is direct communication to me as well, but ya know, it’s considered lame to say that. haha
As for how minds work, of course it seems like some people don’t even deserve to have one. Though some people are simply born stupid, that doesn’t mean their mind is any less beautiful. To me anyway. Like, even if something sucks, its structure can be beautiful.
If you look at how ‘ugly’ humans are built on the inside, with blood, fat, tissue and other nasty things, compared to plants, of course it seems ugly. But it doesn’t change anything about the fact that the human body is still a beautiful and unique creation (don’t freak out on me, I mean nature not god). Or if you look at bacteria and the like through a microscope – it looks fucking gorgeous.
Haha and I too am technically a brown person, though you can see it only when it’s summer.
And actually, I don’t know one single black person. There was this one black girl who moved to my hometown a few years ago. We became friends because we shared the same taste in music but soon she moved for obvious reasons.
But yea, so I have friends who have done really bad things and others who are as conservative as can be. And there’s one thing that has always been the same, and you would have to be blind and deaf to not see it.
People who grow up in a bad environment are more likely to become what is considered by society bad people. No matter what colour or nationality they are.
As much as I despise Nazis and racists and whatnot, at the end of the day, I know that if they had grown up with more open-minded parents, friends etc. they could be as passionate about human rights as they are about racism. You know what I mean?
Another reason why I’m a determinist. It reminds me to look at people in a rational way and say, I see potential used in a wrong way.
@...dieAntagonista: It’s interesting, I’ve had two friends that were really into Nazi stuff. And while I absolutely abhor their actions and extreme racial prejudice, I have to say that I agree with them in some specific respects. The Nazis had a great sense of style. 🙂
They also had some excellent weapons and great engineers, however those were more a result of good German engineering applied to Nazi pursuits, rather than the other way around.
Personally, I do not believe that the ability to look at people in a rational way requires any specific belief system, but rather simply the ability to teach oneself to think objectively.
So I found it interesting that it was one of the reasons you decided to become a determinist. Just out of curiosity, what were the top reasons you thought determinism would be a good choice for you?
@...Phyreblade: One of my best friends is a former neo-Nazi. I too agree with them on certain things, but those things just happen to be part of their culture, it has nothing to do with racism so it’s not even worth mentioning.
About their style, oh yeah. But they’re mostly just copying punk kids :p
Yeah my friend has some dope weapons and whatnot I agree with that also.
Well I never said it requires any belief system in order to be able to be objective like that.
In fact, I never even knew about determinism. All these things about causality and the lack of free will, I recognised that those things were true (for me) without even knowing that it was a philosophy and had a name. When I caught up on studying philosophy I found out, and was like, damn! That’s exactly it.
I’m one who easily obsesses over things. So back when I looked at people who were unjust to me, through the eyes of a merciless and angry person, I wasn’t happy at all. I was convinced they were ‘evil’ and that it’s something in them that is unchangeable. Until one day I realised that they were just like me. Through that friend I mentioned before. After we became friends none of the other Nazis dared to touch me anymore, and I found out that he was really poor, his parents were divorced and he lived only with his unstable mother in a small apartment.
Around that time I started to see this gigantic web of cause and effect that is the reason for everything and it all made sense. I never felt so relieved.
I’d say that’s a pretty damn good reason to be a determinist.
Oh my God.
THIS BIBLE IS AN AFFRONT TO CHRISTIANITY!
May the Lord of wrath strike you down with his mighty Christian thunder!
@...dieAntagonista:
LOL The original Nazi’s copped their style from punk kids? Bastiges!!!
And I wasn’t trying to say that you were saying that it *required* a belief system in order to think rationally about others. I was actually fairly certain you actually *didn’t* think that.
I just thought it was interesting that you cited that ability as one of the reasons you decided to become a determinist, since that way of thinking can be employed regardless of beliefs.
But I do have another question. My single biggest source of confusion with determinism is with the ideology of a “lack of free will”.
It conflicts with what I have observed in others. There are people who have the same background, have suffered the same causes, but whose reactions to things differ greatly. The only conclusions I can can come to is that for reasons unknown, they *chose* to act/react differently.
This has always led me to believe that cause only affects general tendencies, not actual choices. Have you observed this as well? And if so, how do you reconcile this with the idea of a lack of free will?
@...Phyreblade: The thing about determinism is that it is often only seen in general tendencies, though not necessarily so. Those people you talk about don’t have the same experiences, similar perhaps, but not identical. If you were privy to their memories and thoughts it would seem very deterministic. All that said, Determinism does not really help you figure out what someone will do (not any better than any other theory), though it does help explain their actions, after the fact. I personally think that some people are more ruled buy determined events than others. Education tends to lengthen the odds (against determined behavior), as does wealth. The more options you have the more difficult it becomes to see, sense what a person will do because it raises the various odds of going from potential to actual act.
None of this tells us whether or Determinism is actually how things work, metaphysically. I think not, but I don’t know that’s it not so.
I hope this came out right ’cause I have no intention of proofreading it. ;<)
Dammit it is friday night and you guys are making me have to THINK to understand what is being said…..That is really taking the edge off the rum and Spumoni ice cream.
@...SumoSnipe: Sorry. Never mind me.
@...nyokki: But I must. Because a mind like yours is a nuke u lar flare to the undead hordes, and when the Zombiepocalypse dawns, I want to know where Ground Zero is. Must be prepared. It will be goryous gloryus!glorious! ok maybe too much rum in this…..
@...nyokki: That there demonstrates exactly, the crux of my query. Determinism as a means of explaining any given individuals actions seems useful only as a general indicator, rather than a means of describing specific actions.
A more specific example of this would be a person like Harvey Dent/Two face, whose decisions are made on the flip of a coin. Past deterministic experience has no bearing on the decision making process. If there is a deterministic influence there, it is, at the very best, an indirect influence on the subsequent decision, and in no way a direct or causal relationship.
This would indicate that Deterministic events do not actually have *complete* control over the actions of a person, much like you have suggested. This, to me, represents a paradox in the paradigm of the absence of free will, and I am curious about how determinists reconcile those ostensibly conflicting facets of their belief system.
@...dieAntagonista: I just read everything through quickly but give me a couple hours to reply, (food, shower, more food, and some music)
quick awnsers.
@...nyokki: yes knowledge does extended the road but that’s why if your very familiar with this formula you can process this in couple of minutes based on experience.
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@...Phyreblade: the cause= he got so pissed of about forces of evil & Good (based on the movie, his girl died etc.)
effect= the chose the coin to do his bidding
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brb in the mean while enjoy this.
www.deaddog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/normal-despair-2d-bible-camp.jpg
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i recently caught sumosnipe with my camera —> www.deaddog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/modioftheday.jpg
@...SumoSnipe: i don’t know why i like you’re comments :\
@...ColombianMonkey: Ooops. That was one of my failed attempts at building a portable DJ/propaganda delivery system. Assembly Instructions page 6 fig. 3 was printed upsidedown(DAMN YOU KINKO’S! FOILED AGAIN!!) and since my tool jockeys have been disciplined about failure to follow instructions/unapproved upgrades……Well my test pilot pictured there is expected to make a full recovery,and it was fortuitous that he was planning to have a vasectomy in 3 months anyway……
@...SumoSnipe: ummm i have no clue what you’re saying but i want to punch o’reily for fun, Jesus please give me patience for watching how stupid and arrogant this guy is and my gosh i wish I could be in his show and I’m sure I would pretty much own him with his bio-politics BS. how he agree with army recruiting in high schools, how he say taking troops out of the middle east is unpatriotic, but last time i check doing something STUPID and think it’s for a purpose isn’t patriotic, doing something smart and befitting for all even if it’s the sacrifice of you’re own life!
@...ColombianMonkey:
LOL Bible camp. Second only to Band Camp.
And I understand the influence of determinism up until the coin toss. The problem is that the coin does not actually do his bidding. It is entirely random. In fact statistically, the coin should generally oppose his deterministic wishes 50% of the time. And yet some people make decisions like that all the time.
And there’s another thing. Determinism appears to be based on a persons experiences, IE Nurture. However a persons actions are affected by both nature (physiology, brain function/chemistry, etc.) as well as nurture.
I’m not trying to dispute the deterministic view, as I agree with the fundamental concept. I’m just wondering how they account for exceptions and factors other than nurture/past experience.
@...ColombianMonkey:
If you ever have the opportunity to punch the BillO, I’d like a pic. Or even better, a movie… 🙂
@...Phyreblade: well maybe i haven’t explained myself so good but i try to say that he’s a bit of both nature good and bad and he simply cannot make a choice because which ever he chooses the opposite side will go against it so in action he depends on the coin, he is aware of the 50% chance and the coin has no feeling of opposite conflict. so that’s why he chooses the coin.
@...Phyreblade: You’re point is the same as mine. Determinism falls apart the closer you get. It only works in generalities. Sooner or later you get to a point where a person makes a decision based on random chance. Every philosophical theory (as does most theories of any discipline) comes down to first purposes. What started it? It doesn’t really matter what it is.
@...nyokki: random ? no
cirle of why doom? yes
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so why you choose to post this moldy bible, because i believe in god, why..etc…why…etc….why…etc. (this is just and example
@...ColombianMonkey: It’s a philosophical idea. There has to be a first. There needs to be a Prime Mover (Aristotle), so to speak. For Christians, Jews and Muslims, it’s God, ex nihilo. For most scientists, it’s the Big Bang. It may take a long time to answer all those “whys”, but most would agree that there is an end (i.e. The Beginning)
@...ColombianMonkey: You did explain yourself well. The problem is that from where I (and apparently Nyokki as well) am sitting, it just doesn’t seem to adequately explain things at anything other than a general level. It appears that not every decision a human makes can be deterministically explained.
While I agree with the fundamental idea of determinism, I personally could not reconcile myself with the idea of the lack of free will, because it ostensibly appears to disregard humans ability to engage in both rational *and* random thought.
I was also curious about how the ideology handles anomalies.
@...nyokki: Yes I do recognize that our points are the same, I was just curious to see if I was missing anything, or if there was some deterministic perspective on the issue that I had not considered.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoP5988SChc
okay let’s talk about our capable failure of believing things from other people situations but if self experienced you do start to believe. don’t understand? i will give a self experience that happened this christmas gone. christmas gone as i think i informed a couple of you a very good friend of mines passed away from his tumor. and his soon to be brother in law is my best friend also. and me i don’t believe in ghost or shit like that but after this i give a double thought. He (friend that passed away) always used to fuck around with my friend when he was in the bathroom like flicking the light’s off and on repeatedly, you know brother love stuff. and my friend tell me at his funeral after the session he went to the restroom and at the restroom the light keep flickering like on and off, on and off not like in horror movie flikker, he rushed outside and nobody was in sight. now ofcourse my friend would never even lie about this it’s beyond human respect for the death of a family member. how is it in a human reaction we see other people talk about this but all we think is that they talk bogus. but this is what i experienced and I’m serious about it. the thing that minds me is that “why we have to “feel” before we learn?”
@...ColombianMonkey: I think it has to do w/ the way our brains learn. We learn by watching, listening and doing. We go far beyond mimicry. While we can generalize knowledge, we still need direct knowledge in order to believe. For those people that experience the supernatural, it becomes real. Past that, for some people, no pics, it didn’t happen. Anecdotal evidence is not recognized (by our brains) as true knowledge.
@...nyokki: My teachers hated that I would not settle for “because the book said so.”
@...ColombianMonkey: True. You can tell me till you are blue in the face about an experience, and I might be able to sympathize,(or do the typical guy thing and nod uh huh, right, yes, I understand…) But to truly Understand what happened and how you felt, It would have to happen to me. Happily, Things beyond “natural” have happened to me in the past, so my mind is open to the unusual. Guess that is why I like this site and you guys so much.