@...hvymetal86: “Waste of paper” is trivial. A book will last 100 years. Tossing an electronic gizmo in the garbage every upgrade cycle would be a much greater waste. Paper can at least be recycled.
I can think of very few scenarios were one would (a) need to have a whole bunch of books on hand (b) not have access to a computer.
If I were paranoid, I would guess that the push for ebooks is so publisher can lock in DRM and prevent lending and 2nd-hand book sales. If I were paranoid.
Not to mention if you need a wireless connection or not. Also, books dont run out of batteries. And there will be no technological replacement for reading a book before bed and falling asleep whilst reading, or reading a book by a fire side on a warm summer night.
there was a site called myganzines that was a flash app that allowed for reading magazines online but it got shut down.
this would save TONNES of trees. But its ugly. wait until you cal roll the screen out and its paper thin. then daily newspapers will start making a shift I think.
@...RSIxidor: Yeah, newspapers delivered wirelessly would be one use that an ebook reader would just barely have an advantage over paper. But, like you said, why not use a UMPC?
I’m waiting until they get to the point where this stuff is like the map Vin Diesel had in Babylon AD. Christ, that film was terrible, but his map was fucking awesome.
@...reboot: recycled newspaper is a net loss in terms of conservation.
The ink is one factor, but more importantly, all paper is made from pulpwood, which comes from trees like pine, and recycled paper must be collected, cleaned, shredded, and treated chemically before it can finally be turned into paper again, at a loss in quality- and this process actually releases more substances into the atmosphere than it would if it just got put in a landfill.
I’d sacrifice a few ounces or so in a landfill if it meant not having to lug a library around when i move- I have a few important books, but most of my library is paperback novels that i’d love to unload if i could replace them with tech.
I can see some uses for this, but I love my books. My library is my favorite room and the one I’ve put the most time and money into. I love seeing all the books I’ve read and have them organized like a bookstore, by genre and alpha by author. It sounds like my grand kids may look in awe and wonder at my collection as my sons already do for my lp collection.
zephyr (#5280)
16 years ago
I won’t be getting one, but I’ve been impressed by the models I’ve seen in that it has very little glare and doesn’t even look like a backlit screen–it just looks like paper.
@...nyokki: I agree, but the idea that I’d want a physical copy of every book that I’m going to read…oye that’s a scary thought. I generally read about 2-3 books a month, and every now and then I’ll read one that I’ll want to add to my physical library. My opinions on books are much like my opinion on music. I’ll take it for free unless I really like it, then I’ll pay for it to keep a physical copy to put on a shelf. So, pandora and local library for when I’m just using and cdbaby and amazon for when I want to add to library 🙂
I’d like to have an e-reader, but I’m really waiting for an A9 sized one. I hate the small ones 🙁
@...tiki god: It can be cumbersome. I have a good sized room (14×18) filled on 3 walls so far and I still have books in boxes. I could see having an ebook for travel and easy access to what I’m looking for. I bet it would help w/ the NY Times acrostic.
How big in size does the average novel come to? I’ve almost filled up a terabyte with just videos and some music and I don’t want to have to warrant another hard drive.
@...Jaypeezy: Would you have to keep them all on a hard drive? If you have an internet connection you can access every book in the Library of Congress.
I don’t understand what’s exactly so bad about these little lovely things. I haven’t gotten mine yet, but it’s going to be awesome, I know that for sure.
On the other hand, just like tiki said, if I really love a book, I’m going to get the real thing any way. But generally, e-books FTW.
Theyre getting there.
Solution in search of a problem.
@...reboot: The problem is the waste of paper and the inconvenience of dragging around a whole bunch of books.
Great until you spill your coffee.
Space Odyssey now!
@...hvymetal86: “Waste of paper” is trivial. A book will last 100 years. Tossing an electronic gizmo in the garbage every upgrade cycle would be a much greater waste. Paper can at least be recycled.
I can think of very few scenarios were one would (a) need to have a whole bunch of books on hand (b) not have access to a computer.
If I were paranoid, I would guess that the push for ebooks is so publisher can lock in DRM and prevent lending and 2nd-hand book sales. If I were paranoid.
eBooks are useless.
People like books. It’s as simple as that.
Not to mention if you need a wireless connection or not. Also, books dont run out of batteries. And there will be no technological replacement for reading a book before bed and falling asleep whilst reading, or reading a book by a fire side on a warm summer night.
@...reboot:
Notice in the image, the user is reading a newspaper.
As a network administrator, I would welcome these gizmos, but as a piece of software on a UMPC, not on an extra device.
there was a site called myganzines that was a flash app that allowed for reading magazines online but it got shut down.
this would save TONNES of trees. But its ugly. wait until you cal roll the screen out and its paper thin. then daily newspapers will start making a shift I think.
@...reboot:
As an owner of one, I will tell you.
I frequently travel. On these travels I tend to read in excess of 4000 pages to pass the time.
I can keep a vast library of books on one thin device, and I never have to mark my place; the page I stopped at is the page it turns on to.
The battery lasts exceptionally long as well.
@...RSIxidor: Yeah, newspapers delivered wirelessly would be one use that an ebook reader would just barely have an advantage over paper. But, like you said, why not use a UMPC?
I can’t imagine the demand for these wouldd be that incredibly high, only for the trendy “ooo look at me, Im reading an e-book”
I’m waiting until they get to the point where this stuff is like the map Vin Diesel had in Babylon AD. Christ, that film was terrible, but his map was fucking awesome.
I dunno. I mean, as long as an ebook has a rechargeable battery i think it could work. Regular books take C cell batteries and those are expensive.
@...reboot: recycled newspaper is a net loss in terms of conservation.
The ink is one factor, but more importantly, all paper is made from pulpwood, which comes from trees like pine, and recycled paper must be collected, cleaned, shredded, and treated chemically before it can finally be turned into paper again, at a loss in quality- and this process actually releases more substances into the atmosphere than it would if it just got put in a landfill.
I’d sacrifice a few ounces or so in a landfill if it meant not having to lug a library around when i move- I have a few important books, but most of my library is paperback novels that i’d love to unload if i could replace them with tech.
I can see some uses for this, but I love my books. My library is my favorite room and the one I’ve put the most time and money into. I love seeing all the books I’ve read and have them organized like a bookstore, by genre and alpha by author. It sounds like my grand kids may look in awe and wonder at my collection as my sons already do for my lp collection.
I won’t be getting one, but I’ve been impressed by the models I’ve seen in that it has very little glare and doesn’t even look like a backlit screen–it just looks like paper.
@...nyokki: I agree, but the idea that I’d want a physical copy of every book that I’m going to read…oye that’s a scary thought. I generally read about 2-3 books a month, and every now and then I’ll read one that I’ll want to add to my physical library. My opinions on books are much like my opinion on music. I’ll take it for free unless I really like it, then I’ll pay for it to keep a physical copy to put on a shelf. So, pandora and local library for when I’m just using and cdbaby and amazon for when I want to add to library 🙂
I’d like to have an e-reader, but I’m really waiting for an A9 sized one. I hate the small ones 🙁
@...tiki god: It can be cumbersome. I have a good sized room (14×18) filled on 3 walls so far and I still have books in boxes. I could see having an ebook for travel and easy access to what I’m looking for. I bet it would help w/ the NY Times acrostic.
How big in size does the average novel come to? I’ve almost filled up a terabyte with just videos and some music and I don’t want to have to warrant another hard drive.
@...Jaypeezy: Would you have to keep them all on a hard drive? If you have an internet connection you can access every book in the Library of Congress.
@...reboot: Any electronic device will get thrown away, but the file that the ebook is kept on will last far more then any book will.
What model is this?
@...General X: The name is at the top but I can’t figure it out.
This article is pretty much aligned with my thoughts on the kindle.
I don’t understand what’s exactly so bad about these little lovely things. I haven’t gotten mine yet, but it’s going to be awesome, I know that for sure.
On the other hand, just like tiki said, if I really love a book, I’m going to get the real thing any way. But generally, e-books FTW.