I eagerly await your response.

First of all let me stress that i never said anything about shooting, what i said was HURT Americans.
I wasn’t talking about just my unit. i was talking about the many, many folks across services that i served with (we did a lot of cross service training). I met all types and from that experience i am sure that there are SOME folks out there who would do it. And maybe you served with a bunch of super cool guys, who knows? The point is that, as i said above, there will be folks who will do it. Specially if they have been convinced or told that the people they are going after, who ever they may, be pose a threat to other Americans.
You never addressed the example of the cops violating rights. Are they not Americans too? Shouldn’t they hesitate to not abuse their fellow American? But they do…they viciously beat them down, verbally abuse them, put mace in their eyes with a swab, spray folks with pepper spray at point blank…and remember that there are many ex military in the police. Let me point out that I AM NOT GENERALIZING. I know that NOT ALL COPS are “bad” and that NOT ALL SERVICE MEMBERS would turn on Americans.
But it seems like you are bent on believing that its not possible and thats your right…thus why America rules and why its a shame that a few narrow minded buffoons have hi-jacked OUR country and driven it into the ground.

Damn mantis, you beat me to the punch. I agree with you whole heartedly that they wont be going house to house and shipping folks off. Thats a bit extreme. They will however use those crowd control tactics on the extremely aggressive as well as the not. I cite my police brutality example above. Something we have all seen and which some of you folks on here have actually cheered on. Of course you’d be singing a different tune if they were doing that to you. I ought to know, i felt the same way till i got my ass whooped by Philadelphia police during the 2000 RNC. And all for taking pictures…and i wasn’t taking sides either…i am an independent. I don’t buy into this two party farce. They are all the same party with two different factions. A true democratic system would have multiple parties regardless of their beliefs or motivation…then again we are a republic and not a true democracy. anyhow, i am getting off topic. My arrest and subsequent jailing was a harrowing experience. From denying my basic rights ie phone call, access to lawyers, to keeping me for four days with out charges and without anyone knowing where the hell i was. And that cemented into my mind that the authorities, military or otherwise will HURT Americans.
then end.

ok mantis shrimp, we’ll go through your post point by point:

YOU: Ugh. Jose, maybe one day when you stop putting words in my mouth, we could actually have a conversation with some real meaning to it.

ME: putting words in your mouth? lol. where? when? what are you talking about? Sounds like a cop out to me, not that you’ve said anything of substance aside form pushing the tired old propaganda that we see everywhere else.

YOU: I don’t know what sort of training you went through in the military, but most units nowadays will not use overly aggressive tactics against large crowds unless they’re utterly forced to. We’ve learned that the hard way from lessons in Iraq and Afghanistan.

ME: If these folks are sooooooooooo well trained then why are the civilian casualty rates so high? And remember those lessons go out the window when emotion blinds and binds rational thought. oh and by lessons…are you referring to the same ones they learned in Vietnam? the same one we watched the Russians learn in Afghanistan? spare me.

YOU: I didn’t say it’s out of the question that service members would harm American citizens. My point is that a lot of service members aren’t as simple-minded as a lot of people, yourself included, think. You seem to hold people in the military in low regards in terms of self control and taking responsibility for their own actions.

ME: Again you are accusing me of generalizing and i addressed that in my previous posts which i suspect you aren’t really reading…just skimming over.

YOU: If I remember correctly, you never even deployed to a combat zone, yet you never seem to pass an opportunity on this site to let other people know what goes on in Iraq and Afghanistan.

ME: please feel free to find examples of me spouting off about combat in afghanistan or iraq. and if i do make a comment i come from an informed position and not from ignoramus land like some folks on here. But if it makes you feel better to point out that i have never been in combat and thus should not opine then so be it. Im ok with not having been in a combat zone. And its only idiots that would follow unlawful and unconstitutional orders to fight a war against an enemy that posed absolutely no threat to us…Iraq. Afghanistan is the only place they should really be and look how they have fucked it up there. And you dont need to be “in the shit” to see that.

YOU: I didn’t address the example of the cops violating rights because that has jackshit to do with what I’m talking about.

ME: what?!?! are you kidding me? it has “jackshit”
(what ever that is) to do with what WE are talking about? It has everything to do with what WE are talking about. Its an example of Americans in a position of authority hurting other Americans whom are only enacting their rights to free speech and assembly. More often then not in a non violent manner cause we all know that its only a minute number of individuals that cause property damage and act violently.

YOU: I’m simply explaining how this does make some sense from a strategic standpoint, and letting you know that your massive, sweeping generalizations of American service members are pretty off the mark. If you want to hijack this thread so you can complain about bad cops, Republicans, and cream cheese, then find somebody else to do it with. If you’d like to discuss the pros and cons of having an active duty BCT ready to respond to some sort of national crisis, then please continue. Otherwise, I’m done.

ME: my man you truly are delusional and i think you have to go back and reread your own posts. Again i will point out that i am not making “sweeping generalizations” as you so eloquently put it. I have not high jacked any thread and remember it was YOU who elicited this discussion when YOU responded to my comment…directly.
as far as complaining about cops, Republicans, and, LOL, cream cheese…well they all play a part in this discussion.

ME AGAIN: you my friend need to come out of the cave and into the light. As far as maybe having a discussion…i can only laugh at your juvenile attempt to belittle me and the things i have said.
Most of which, aside from the subjective comments i have made, are all factual and actual, not just my opinion. which by the way i have every right to have just as much as you have the right to yours.
AND AGAIN: Have at it cowboy, cause now i am done. enjoy rambling to yourself and your captive audience.
PEACE….lol!