baphomet

also, notice the serpents on the pole that looks like the prescription symbol…

also parallels Numbers 21:7-9

7Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD, and against thee; pray unto the LORD, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people.

9And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.

Mr.Dooves, i call bullshit on your refuting “nearly 95% of the bible”

sounds like you pulled that out of your ass.

not that i am one of these asshole christians that deify the bible and make it all holy and shit. it’s just a collection of works, after all, and i know of several paradoxes and discrepancies. but 95% bullshit? come on.

IF ANYONE DISAGREES, THEN FUCK YOU /hahahaha

reboot, you are retarded for that last statement, and you know it

Ah, Zietgiest! facepalm.jpg
so much retardation in this thread.

Mr.Dooves, i dont beleive you know the bible’s history. if you did, you’d know that ‘greedy assholes’ had nothing to do with the writing of the bible.

was Paul being a greedy asshole when he wrote his letters? what about Isaiah? or Job? i guess they all decided at the weekly card game to write some bullshit so they could oppress all you fat bastards. and twisted the entire works to their own advantage? think before you type, please…

i’d go on, but it would be a waste of time.

also, reboot, you know as well as the rest of us that the hebrews were contemporaries of ancient egypt, india, china, etc….

also, Zoroastrianism comes into history in like the 4th-5th century b.c. and who the hell is even confident of the dates of the Avesta? Isaiah was writing about a virgin giving birth nearly 8 centuries b.c.

(Is. 7:14) Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.

a pretty fucking accurate and ancient copy of Isaiah was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls…

tl;dr: Zoroaster my ass.

oh, is that what you meant by “they plagiarized myths from other cultures, such as Egyptian sun worship and Zoroastrianism”?

and the zietgiest crack was aimed at drooves

also, your link to the Ebionites says they “insisted on a universal necessity of following Jewish religious law and rites”, which would go contrary to the teachings of jesus. the Old Testament and the Law were given to show humanity that they were guilty, not to save them. a law cannot do anything but condemn, and cannot save. this is why a savior was needed.

if the law was perfect and able to save, then there would be no need for a new covenant.

this can be seen in the sacrifices and the yearly day of atonement. if the blood of goats and bulls and birds was sufficient to get rid of sin (all this is assuming you believe in such things), then they would have stopped.

King David even wrote about this in Psalms, which is in the OT.

as far as paul “editing the gospels ruthlessly”, i dont think you know what you are talking about. when it comes to Paul, i know what i am talking about. I’m sure you won’t believe me, so I don’t know why even I’m posting this, but: I fucked Paul.
It was almost exactly a year ago. I was visiting a friend who goes to law school at UCLA. We went out to a salsa club (which is one of the few non-nerdy I do well). After dancing a bit, he told me his name and there was a pause, like I should be impressed, and he said, “You know, the one who edited the gospels ruthlessly”. And was I was like, “Yeah, I’m from Baltimore.” and he laughed. So ended up going back to my friend’s apartment, drank some wine, then he took his girlfriend home, and well…
Anyway, I didn’t realize who he was until I got home and tried to look-up his scriptures on-line.
I think I’ve still got some picture on my old cell phone. I’ll check when I get home.

also, your link to the “people who actually knew jesus” reads as thus:

Without authenticated archaeological evidence, attempts to reconstruct their history have been based on textual references, mainly the writings of the Church Fathers. The earliest reference to a group that might fit the description of the Ebionites appears in Justin Martyr’s Dialogue with Trypho (c. 140). Justin distinguishes between Jewish Christians who observe the Law of Moses but does not require its observance upon others, and those who believe the Mosaic Law to be obligatory on all.[24] Irenaeus (c. 180) was the first to use the term “Ebionites” to describe a heretical judaizing sect, which he regarded as stubbornly clinging to the Law.

matthew 1:23

not that i want to get into arguing scripture, because i don’t like to do that bullshit.

but jesus came to “FULFILL the law”. is that not what i was talking about? did i say jesus destroyed the law? no. i pointed out that the law’s purpose was not to save; rather to condemn sinful man and to point to the savior.

this is what jesus meant by fulfilling the law

you are totally right, wookie

no one has ever called jesus immanuel, and when that name is uttered, no one EVER thinks of jesus

i’ll take the bet if it’s not an american street

asdf, what are these books you speak of?

you only side with reboot because he has incriminating gaysecks pics of you on his cell phone