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I almost was offended.
Mark Twain – Cynical of organized religion. But religious and in no way an atheist. Believed in God. Proud of his presbyterian upbringing.
Einstein – Had a spiritual leaning. Not an atheist in the strict Dawkinite sense, but he didn’t believe in a human-like god. Guess what? Neither do many tribal religions in Canada.
Ben Franklin – Very very sceptical of organized religion and Christianity. None the less, never stopped speaking of reverence for his creator.
“I never doubted, for instance, the existence of the Deity; that He made the world, and governed it by His providence; that the most acceptable service of God was the doing good to man; that our souls are immortal; and that all crime will be punished, and virtue rewarded, either here or hereafter.”
Darwin – Originally intended to be a pastor, got his degree in divinity. FLIRTED WITH *SOFT* ATHEISM after the death of his daughter and a string of other personal tragedies.
“never been an Atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a God… an Agnostic would be a more correct description of my state of mind.”
I’ve had atheists tell me that that kind of attitude was “worse than Christians” “pussy” “cowardly” “idiotic”, etc etc. Most modern Atheist dislike Darwin’s sort of agnosticism.
Lincoln… I am looking for evidence that he was an atheist, but I’m having a very, very hard time finding any. I’m not an expert on the man, but someone is going to have to provide me solid proof that contradicts this:
“In regard to this great book (the bible), I have but to say, it is the best gift God has given to man. All the good the Saviour gave to the world was communicated through this book. But for it we could not know right from wrong. All things most desirable for man’s welfare, here and hereafter, are to be found portrayed in it.”
Richard Dawkins: Invented the word “meme”. General asshole. Whoop-de-fucking-doo.
Hemingway: An hero to atheists everywhere
Hey, three out of eight ain’t bad.
BY THE FUCKING WAY I’LL HAVE YOU KNOW ATHEISM IS *FACT BASED*
You got trapped.
And you did a bunch of work during too.
*clap*
Only one clap for you, I’m afraid.
Any religion or belief in things like god, the easter bunny, and such is tragic and dangerous. Let reason rule!
Supemaut, I’ve yet to see a hard atheist say something reasonable.
They forgot my favorites: Robert Green Ingersoll and Mother Theresa.
this pict fails.
Beleive me, I love God, I just can’t stand his fan clubs sometimes.
Bizarrely enough, Mother Teresa would have been more appropriate than half these guys.
That’s not Dawkins in the picture, its Carl Sagan, an atheist.
Einstein, an atheist who hated the fact that religious types used his quotes to justify their god.
Jefferson was a deist.
The common thread is their dislike of organized religion
Atheism is just as bad as religion, you have no proof for the non-existence of God, just as religious people have no proof for the existence of God.
Agnosticism ftw.
@Caio
soft atheist? hard atheist? why are you being penises into the situation?
Atheist : there is now god
Soft AtheistAgnostic : there might not be a godHard AtheistAtheist : there definately no god.Einstein on Spirituality and Science:
“Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind.”
“The finest emotion of which we are capable is the mystic emotion. Herein lies the germ of all art and all true science. Anyone to whom this feeling is alien, who is no longer capable of wonderment and lives in a state of fear is a dead man. To know that what is impenetrable for us really exists and manifests itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, whose gross forms alone are intelligible to our poor faculties – this knowledge, this feeling … that is the core of the true religious sentiment. In this sense, and in this sense alone, I rank myself among profoundly religious men.”
“I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details.”
“My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind.”
“Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.”
“The scientists’ religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.”
“The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.”
“When the solution is simple, God is answering.”
“God does not play dice with the universe.”
“God is subtle but he is not malicious.”
“The man who regards his own life and that of his fellow creatures as meaningless is not merely unfortunate but almost disqualified for life.”
“Only a life lived for others is a life worth while.” (This reminds me of something Jesus would have said)
“The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe. We are like a little child entering a huge library. The walls are covered to the ceilings with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written these books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. But the child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books—a mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects.”
“What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of humility. This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism.”
Tiki god
Sorry to have to correct you but your definition of Atheism is teh wrong
Atheism: There is the possibility of a god, but I personally don’t believe there is one.
Also faggots just because something is complicated does not mean it was designed. It just happened.
You can be amazed at natural beauty without believing it was designed by some guy with a beard, yaknow.
@natedog: Your selection of quotes seem to imply that Einstein was a theist…
He was actually more of a pantheist (universe = god, not a god/gods creating anything) than anything, which is very different from what most people think about when they think about religion.
Quotes:
“The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. [b]It should transcend personal God and avoid dogma and theology.[/b] Covering both the natural and the spiritual, [b]it should be based on a religious sense arising from the experience of all things natural and spiritual as a meaningful unity.[/b] Buddhism answers this description. If there is any religion that could cope with modern scientific needs it would be Buddhism.”
“It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I [b]do not believe in a personal God[/b] and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. [b]If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.[/b]”
respect for the sanctity of life and working toward the liberty and prosperity of every man, for simply refusing to believe that God’s will can be pinned down to anything as mundane, memetic, misunderstandable, and fallible as a book, then to hell I shall go.” – Anonymous
“A man’s ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.” – Albert Einstein
“[b]I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the kind that we experience in ourselves. Neither can I nor would I want to conceive of an individual that survives his physical death; let feeble souls, from fear or absurd egoism, cherish such thoughts. [/b]I am satisfied with the mystery of the eternity of life and with the awareness and a glimpse of the marvelous structure of the existing world, together with the devoted striving to comprehend a portion, be it ever so tiny, of the Reason that manifests itself in nature.”
Crap, I messed up the bolding..
Oh well.
i was just saying he was not an atheist
None of this really matters. If you make up your mind about an issue because of what a famous person thinks, you’re stupid. Doesn’t matter if the famous person is Paris Hilton or Albert Einstein. Appeal to authority is always a logical fallacy.
(facepalm)
Franklin, Jefferson and Lincoln are all bad examples, they were Freemasons and Luciferians.
Darwin is the grandfather of Eugenics, a mass murdering fuck. Einstein is a poster boy imposter, not to be trusted. I don’t even care to recogonize the rest of the faces.
There is a God, Atheists too bad.
Not many people seem to understand God though, so questioning religious doctrine is great.
Look at the big brain on reboot! That’s probable the smartest thing anyone so far has said here.
Ben1605, the Church of the FSM would like to thank you for that statement.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
Opinions….assholes….draw your own conclusions.
Religion and its terminology is so pervasive that it is nearly impossible to describe anything of importance w/out using religious terms. I do it all the time; it helps me explain what I mean w/out having to twist my tongue into knots. There are times when I have to make it clear that use of such terminology does not imply my belief in any religion or the existence of any kind of God.
For many philosophers, when they wrote their essays, treatises, etc…they purposely put in religious ideas so their books wouldn’t be banned (Descartes comes to mind). But the real reasoning was for a select few that the writer knew would understand. The fact the some of our greatest minds used religious terminology or professed a written belief in God is unreliable as proof as to what they believed.
So let me get this straight. Someone posts up a Photoshopped pic (albeit bad rendition) of people who said person claims are bonifide atheists, yet under examination, the only true atheist in the traditional sense was Earnest Hemmingway who was in a continuous state of drunkeness and blew his fucking brains out.
Hmm….
Who cares? They’re dead now and no one gives a shit about what they thought, only what they did. Quit being a puss fighting about religion and go actually change the world instead, then come back and see if we care what you think.
INTENSE!
whose top left?
i mean right
i know that one guy is hemming way
who is opposite?
*FUCK
i mean hemmingway
@Trik
As tomato said, its Carl Sagan.
@Ben1605
Which type of agnosticism? Agnostic means a lack of knowledge. There’s weak agnostic: that I, personally, do not know if there is a god. Which is kind of a cop-out. Then there’s strong agnostic: that the question of god is fundamentally unknowable by anyone. Which needs to have some pretty strong philosophical reasoning to support.
There’s a possibility of a giant atomic bomb buried under the surface of mars, but we all know it’s not there. Same goes for God.
there are way moar reasons to believe that God is real than to believe a human invention is buried in the martian soil
Why?
I am technically an atheist but I almost hate admitting it because there are so many “atheists” out there who act like assholes… and so many theists who react to the label like it’s a bad word I’ve spoken intentionally to victimize them. Their insecurities in their faith have nothing to do with atheists and it irritates me whenever they dump their issues on me… so I tend to bite my tongue.
I don’t think that we are advanced enough scientifically or even as a race to be able to prove much of anything. Arguing about it is pointless because at this point in time it’s essentially an emotional disagreement.
I take comfort in living without any need for the supernatural. Others can find comfort in any belief that they want. I just don’t want to told what to believe or how to behave according to rules set by other’s beliefs.
I AM ALL MIGHTY AND ALL POWERFUL YET CANNOT INTEREFERE OR HELP YOU IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER
YEAH MAKES SENSE
Thomas Jefferson,
“Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear.”
Proof that ‘theists’ just use any mention of God to prove a hollow point:
www.nobeliefs.com/jefferson.htm
I contend that we are all atheists, I just believe in one less god than most of you.
Natedog, I have a question for you, if simply for the purposes of playing devils advocate: Can you name 1 reason for believing in God beyond the fact that your parents or some other authority figure has told you He exists?
Love the poster.
Einstein, an atheist who hated the fact that religious types used his quotes to justify their god…. The common thread is their dislike of organized religion”
Einstein liked organized Judaism, even though he wasn’t an adherent.
A distrust of organized religion does not mean atheism, you ignorant fuck. The vast majority of religious people on earth have not been under an organized structure. East Asia doesn’t have the concept, Africa never had the concept before the arrival of Islam. In the Americas, the closest thing to organized religion, in central America, was far from dogmatic or standardized. And of course the vast majority of Native American religions were unorganized and fluid. Does that mean almost everyone in the history of humanity is an Atheist?
Only if you let your confirmation bias blind you as much as the creationists do. If there’s one thing I hate more than a fundamentalist, it’s an atheist who thinks like a fundamentalist.
I’d also like to point out that not all christians fall under the veil of organized religion. Quakers aren’t strictly organized, and they don’t have dogma. Many of the smaller anabaptists sects have dogma but their level or organization is debatable. By tomato’s fucktard definition, that means even a lot of Christians are Atheists.
I’m an atheist (gnostic, whatever you want to call it, both work for me) the same way most of the world is religious. I was brought up that way. Every once in a while I get a notion that maybe, just maybe, there is a deity of some sort. I just can’t hold onto it. None of us (bro’s and sis’s) were baptized, brought to any church growing up or taught about any particular religion. We also weren’t taught that religion (or belief in any deity) is stupid, silly, misguided or even wrong. We didn’t believe, others do. There’s no hate, bitterness or any sense of superiority over the believers of the world. My sister became an Episcopalian and I certainly don’t think there’s anything wrong w/ her intellect or morals. I’ve noticed that it’s very difficult to break away from the beliefs you were taught as a child. Bertrand Russell has a good essay on it (can’t think of the title offhand). I think we end up finding arguments to fit what we already believe…most of the time. Not always, obviously, or we’d never gain more experience or knowledge over time. As long it’s not being pushed on me, I’m fine w/ whatever you believe, for the most part.
throoper, i can do that. i don’t base my belief in a creator on just blind faith and a reading of scripture.
*irreducible complexity
*the role of observation in quantum mechanics
*the big bang
*the non-biblical evidence of the ressurrection of jesus
*how information is not held in the physical object, but its arrangement
*spacetime and the need for a non-physical dimension from which the physical sprang
*the beauty of mathematics and fractals
*the fossil record and all the holes evolution fails to fill when people try to make it account for the origin of life. evolution happens; things change and adapt. but it is impotent when it comes to the gap between life and non-life
oh, sorry. you only wanted 1 reason. my bad
Actually Natedog, I appreciate your reasons, and your response. I simply find myself most of the time, involved in discussions where people are loyal to their view or stance for no particular reason, but doggedly reiterating the same argument over and over. As I said, I do mostly play devils advocate. In some ways, I am like my college logic professor: I care less about what you think and more about whether or not you can back it up with any kind of reasoning.
awesome. and i may be totally wrong and a redneck hillbilly retard for my views, but i try to see it my own way instead of all the spoonfed bullshit.
i find alot of value in the bible, but i think it is really ironic that people essentially deify it and make it out like it is something that has an intrinsic power that can save them all by its lonesome. they idolize it; which is funny because it says not to have any idols or whatever.
people refuse to see any imperfections in the bible, when if they’d just read the thing and employ some critical thinking….
i mean there are several glaring imperfections, like how Judas dies 2 different ways in the Gospels/Acts. there are others, of course.
but these people are all over our planet in all religions, not just christianity. imho, they are the cancer that is killing salvation.
also, why does Darwin have such a yellow head in this picture?
I don’t think that any of these gentlemen would have a problem with being lumped together.