this is my friend’s, (DHG), AR-15 Assualt Rifle he picked up a couple months ago. As you can see, it has some pretty good tactical equipment on it and it is laying on top of a plate carrier with multicam MOLLE gear pouches.
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He is prepared for the zombie uprising I see.
Oh yes my friends, they are coming. They are coming.
Are they still called AR-15s if they have the M4 conversion done? Or was that purchased like that?
@angrymatt
Yes, they are still AR-15s if they have the retractabnle stock. The difference between an AR-15 & M4 is barrel length. The 15 has a 20″ barrel and the M4 has a 16″ barrel.
This *looks* to be an AR-15A3 as the 16″ barrel usually has a little narrow spot & I don’t see one here.
evildick: If you don’t know shit about guns, then don’t post shit about guns. dumbass.
The M4 has a 14.5 inch barrel and the cutout on the barrel for the M203 grenade launcher. This is a standard AR-15A3 with 16″ non-m4 barrel.
People who know about guns LOL
overcompensating?
Well, yeah, it’s a good gun. I see it has one of those long things, a barrel or somesuch. And a looking glass, and a clip-containing device. Is that a lantern I see?
This gun is entirely unnecessary. By the time he hefts it into his underworked shoulder, jerks off over it, and works up the balls to actually confront someone instead of cowering under his bed, an intruder will have carved an apology into his chest.
YOU’RE ALL FAGGOTS.
Real men get the .223 for zombie invasions because the ballistics of that lighter round will make is go through the skull but not out the other side, bouncing around like a golfball in a raquetball court scrambling the brains.
GOD DAMN YOU GUYS ARE IDIOTS.
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Luke V1-5 – You fucktard, how could this not be a viable option in a home defense (zombie or person)? I think he can easily hear a windows break, get out of bed, pick it up, cock it and shoot whatever he fucking sees. Why don’t you leave guns to the people who know and go back to your capgun … dumb fuck.
How do i shot gun?
@m92..
Well, aren’t you a fucktard…
I’ll accept the 14.5″ barrel comment as Iwas only ever issued full 16s and only got to fire a 203 in basic because I had an IQ high enough to have an MOS other than 11B.
But if you bother to carefully read my comment, I did peg it as an AR-15A3.
Retard.
evildick: LOL, you’re in the army…
I’m in one of the other branches of service who actually requires an ASVAB score of above 15. What the fuck is an 11B, LOL.
The weapon was designed as a “Katrina” gun not as an instant home defence weapon. The gun is a Panther DPMS model a4 chambered in .223, it has a 16″ barrel. It has a 3-point tactical sling, and a streamlight flashlight with a CAA quick detach mount, with a streamlight pressure switch. The forehand grip is also from CAA. Again the i built the rifle not for immediate self-defense but for a “Katrina” hurricane like situation in which law and order have collasped. For home defense I have a thompson submachine gun chambered in .45 cal. which has far superior terminal ballistics in the short range.
“LOL, you’re in the Army. My branch sucks less cock than your’s! LOL!”
@Drew
You really want a high powered assault rifle for home defense? That’s pretty irresponsible. That’s a good way to shoot somebody you didn’t mean to and/or cause some good property damage after your errant rounds go through a few walls.
Jesus, this has been one of the most shit-talking posts i’ve seen in a while! sorry to get everyone so riled up and thanks DHG for setting the record straight. next time i’ll try to peg the headline title a little better.
First off, fuck you token2k6.
FlyingMantisShrimp: Yes I would want that as home defense. If it goes through walls and kills others then so be it.
@Drew: just getting off the phone with DHG, seems like I will be borrowing something of his after that last comment. May God help you now….
Move that forend grip further out, its more stable. That tape switch on the 1913 adaptor looks wild, never seen anything like that before.
And a thompson doesn’t have far superior ballistics is short range. But frankly at home defense ranges, anything in the .380 and up range is gonna be enough, its all about shot placement. A .22 to the tear duct is gonna do a whole lot more damage than a .45 to the shoulder.
There are plenty of rounds available for the .223/5.56 cartridges that will not go through two pieces of drywall, whereas only frangible pistol cartridges have a chance at not doing that.
But really the thing that makes gun more appropriate for zombies than home invaders is the ACOG looking optic on top. A red dot sight on top would be far superior than an ACOG at conversation range, thanks to the red dots having no magnification and unlimited parallax.
You may want to try something like a “redi mag” vs that magazine clamp youve got.
www.redi-mag.com/redimagii.php
In response to NIMBO:
I didnt say the .45 cal had better ballistics, I said it had better terminal ballistics at short range, which is an indication of how much damage it does based on the amount of energy it is transfering to the target. The .45 APC round is one of the best man stopper ever produced. As for the second part of your comment you are partially correct, there used to be lots of frangible rounds in .223, however LE sector has basically sucked up all the supply. I also have a red dot, but as I described in an earlier post the weapon is designed as a tactically flexible weapon meant to deal with a Katrina scenrio.
“Why don’t you leave guns to the people who know and go back to your capgun …”
I don’t need to. See, I have this thing called, “Upper Body Strength”, and I know how to, um, what is it, “Fight”. If you need an unfair advantage to protect yourself, you don’t really deserve to.
Oh, and I never said it wasn’t viable. If anything, it’s over viable. What I really meant to say was , ahem, “GUN NUTS CAN SUCK MY BALLS”.
ahem.
@... LukeV1-5:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
How original! That’s the first time an anonymous internets posters said they were built. I bet you are!
You can suck my balls fag fucker.
@Luke Magnifico
you keep swinging champ. while your ass is being gnawed on by the zombies, I’ll be picking them off from 100 yards.
BOOM HEADSHOT.
Aaaand my respect for the MCS community just hit an alltime low. Wasn’t this a place we could hang out and look at cool shit? Not watch jocksniffing bags of homophobic testosterone verbally brawl over who has the biggest nutsack? Fucking pathetic.
Uhhh, Yeah. Zombies.
About that…
And I never said I was buff. I said I was strong. I’m not a jock, I don’t go to the gym. But I work hauling big-ass pieces of wood around. And sanding, that does good for the muscle that punches. I think it’s called the hitting muscle.
listen all the gunphobies (I’m just guessing your a typical northern liberal) should move to canada or australia where everyone is like you. and that way when you get in a fight you wont get shot for being such a jackass. I can just see you there with a gun pointed at your head saying oh come on dude dont be a pussy, then bang…
Weird. This whole flame-war was between people who though an assault rifle was overkill for a middle of the night junkie burglar and those who love their right to bear arms…and now you’ve gone straight from “I’m protecting my home!” to “You’re going to get shot in a fight for being a jackass!”
Maybe people who are so afraid of their own inferiority and socially intellectual ineptitude should stop CLAIMING their guns are for anything else. I love the freedom of gun ownership. It’s like anything else, cars, electronics, we love our toys. I just don’t want to hear a friggen’ flame war over it on a website we all just come to hang out and enjoy.
To be fair, my love of firearms does not stem from “socially intellectual ineptitude” or general “inferiority” (Did someone ask for some extremely generalized pyscho-babble, who the fuck are you a lamer Dr. Phil?). If you dont like the direction MCS is going, head on over to myspace you can hang with all the pedophiles and prepubescents.
LOOK AT MY COCK
IT’S BIGGER THAN YOUR COCK
BECAUSE I KNOW MORE ABOUT GUNS, COCK.
@m92
@Drew
@evildick
@Luke Magnifico
You all are such douchebags it’s embarrassing. You make the rest of the MCS community look as pathetic as you are. FFS it’s a picture of a gun.
In response to NIMBO:
I didnt say the .45 cal had better ballistics, I said it had better terminal ballistics at short range, which is an indication of how much damage it does based on the amount of energy it is transfering to the target. The .45 APC round is one of the best man stopper ever produced.
In modern hollowpoint rounds a 9mm, .40 cal, .45 is all the same. The .223 does more damage at close range to living tissue than any of those rounds.
As for the second part of your comment you are partially correct, there used to be lots of frangible rounds in .223, however LE sector has basically sucked up all the supply.
Frangible arent the only ones in the .223 man. PLENTY of other loads will. I recommend Hornady TAP, 55gr loads are probably the best.
I also have a red dot, but as I described in an earlier post the weapon is designed as a tactically flexible weapon meant to deal with a Katrina scenrio.
Your thompson is nice piece of history, but as a HD gun it is severely outclassed by many modern weapons, your AR being one of them. Your .45 will overpenetrate, hard to mount a light or an optic on.
@pedantic
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niccceeeee
still no one tells me how i shot gun
Actually nimbo at close range the .223 has some problems because the barrel twist has been dramtically increased. During the vietnam war, it was 1:6, now it is 1:9 this has improved accuracy but all but reduced the famous tumbly (end over end) effect the .223 used to make at close range. It still has a tendacy at medium ranges but at close range it has been compared to a flying ice pick, going way to fast through targets and not transfering much energy to the target. Now tests have shown at medium and long ranges the round will also “yaw” which produces odd shaped wounds. I stand by my comments about the .45 cal. The round was created to deal with drug addled Philipeono (sic) insurgents in the early 20th century. Traditional .380 smith and wesson revlovers were not stopping them thats why the army created the .45 to put people down and keep them down. While modern hollowpoints (I use .45 hollowpoints) have dramatically increased the damage to scare tissue they dont increase the amount of energy that is transfered to a target this is a crucial aspect. The key to the .45 is its dramatically increased weight over rounds like the .38, 9mm, or .40 SW.
@dhg:
When choosing a bullet requires a postdoctoral thesis, you may as well just KILL IT WITH FIRE!1!!!!!
@Drew
Lol. Great response.
“WHO CARES IF I SHOOT ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS WHO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BURGLARY!? IT’S THEIR FAULT FOR NOT SLEEPING IN A COFFIN OF KEVLAR AND TITANIUM!!!”
Look, an assault rifle is a POOR choice for civilian home defense. The response of “oh well” to killing/injuring somebody who had nothing to do with what’s going on in your house is pretty fucking stupid. Insisting that you absolutely *HAVE* to use an assault rifle pretty much proves that you have some severe compensation issues and you just want a rifle like that so you can look like a “badass.” Grow up.
I LOVE THIS THREAD, LMAO!
And as for the ballistics debate – how about you just buy the caliber that you feel works best for your particular situation.
If you get this worked up just discussing the merits of your favorite weapon/round then I’m betting that you’ll probably end up shooting yourself in the foot if you ever have to confront a bad guy in the middle of the night.
@... FlyingMantisShrimp
My comment was dripping with sarcasm.
I don’t need a gun, I’m a Jedi.
@Ballistics debate
It’s a bullet. Hitting someone. They won’t be wearing body armour, because they’re thieves. Anything will do.
Hell, who needs ammo. A pistol whip would be enough.
@DasMaus
Actually i consider people who debate ballistics and the merits of different firearms to be an indication that they are capable, experianced and not likely to shoot themselves in the foot in the middle of night at the first sign of a disturbance.
@Luke Magnifico
Your dismissal of different caliburs as “its a bullet. hitting someone” to be a really good indication of your total lack of knowledge when it comes to firearms, which in its self is not a bad thing, but maybe it would be a good idea for you to stick to topics that concern: bareknuckle fighting, hauling lumber and sanding objects. Go with your strengths!
@Luke Magnifico
I bet you have another “developed” muscle that you forgot to share with the community. Your mouth is probably pretty strong from all the dicks you suck.
@dhg
We all know about arguing on the internet. And I know quite a few people who are very knowledgable about ballistics who I won’t let handle a firearm – being knowledgable does NOT translate into being capable. There are some that are both however
@dhg
You can include Physics and Mechanical/Electrical engineering.
@ttudrew
You really do fail at this whole debate thing. Seriously, “You’re gay lol” is /b/ level. I didn’t think MCS was that low.
Well good for you luke! you want a prize? who cares? Again stick to posting about those things then, as oppossed to posting about firearms or anything else in which you have no knowledge or interest. And lay off drew he went Texas Technical community college, their debating program was sadly underdeveloped.
picture of a gun + the internet = lulz
Fuck yes I want a prize.
@dhg4983,
i would love it if they came to Australia- there’s always room for sensible folk. And why does everyone call people ‘faggots’ and crack gay jokes when they don’t like someone? Gays aren’t hurting anyone, why don’t you show some maturity and acceptance of other people’s life choices
@youoxymoron
always room for sensible folk? What as long as their not wogs? Were sensible folk responible for the Cronulla riots? Or were those racists as fuck Australian folk? Listen go back to drinking your VB, meat pies and watching footie and stay out of the ethnocentric rachet. Because firearms are part of our culture, just like neighbors and home and away are part of yours (neighbors rules, H&A sucks so hard)
wow………did i say that Australia is problem free? Way to stereotype, too….. coz all i do is sit at home, drink beer and eat meat pies while beating my wife. Hey- slavery was also once part of your culture- maybe we should embrace that as well and catch ourselves a strong’un. Now YOU listen, just because you saw a 2 min. clip of these ‘race wars’ on the news does NOT mean that you know enough about it to judge MY country on it (lol can you even point out Cronulla on a map?)- it was a boiling point that was a long time coming- these people disrespected women on the beach wearing bikinis and beat the crap out of a lifeguard- and the other group was a bunch of disgruntled, drunken fools that let themselves be manipulated by a few racist tools. People in Australia don’t have a problem with muslims OR Lebanese Australians, no matter what the media try to say- however there is a horrible sub-culture in a lot of Lebanese youth (mostly men) that think it’s ok to treat women like meat, which is fuelling another terrible sub-culture in ‘white’ australian men that all ‘wogs’ are bad. All i was saying by that was that i agreed with some of the comments, so how about YOU stop being intolerant.
Actually I was there fool, and my gf at the time was getting her cell phone blown up by text messages calling for the lynching of wogs, it was a pretty scary moment (how else would i know about your tv shows). So I dont think OZ is racist but it is not the liberal utopia it likes to think it is, and many of the actions taken by aussies in their daily lives is an indication that their has not been a modern civil rights movement (I heard continious and numerous racial ephitats shouted at an essendon footie match).
ok sure you just keep basing your opinion on text msgs and football matches- i’m sure its a valid and accurate census of Australians. Btw no modern civil rights movement? Hmmm maybe you should check up on the subject before you say things like that, coz there has been. Anyway whatever- you disagree, i disagree, we’re not going to change each other’s mindset. Just keep in mind that you can never know all the facts, even if you were there, and maybe i’ll do just the same.
i’m just terribly nationalistic, i guess.
Listen man I love australia, and lets be frank both your culture and mine have treated our respective native populations pretty terribly. I’m just saying you would never ever hear people in the states shouting racial slurs at a public sporting event of any kind, or really in public at all. And by modern civil rights movement I guess I am imagining something akin to the American movement which lasted for decades was highly visible, produced iconic leaders like MLK, and dramatically improved the lives of minorities. Then again Australia has a much smaller minority population than the states. I experianced a similar if but much worse situation while living in England, as the “n’ word was tossed around pretty freely at any pub I went into that had a soccer match on the tele
ok fair enough point taken. No doubt we still have barriers to overcome, just sick of hearing people call my country racist coz of high-publicity events and bogans- i guess i consider it calling me racist as well. England eh? never been, but my friends tell me they like anything deep-fried (especially mars bars). Ok group hug- ahh, i feel like we’ve just made a turning point in interweb relations.
And let me say, as you pointed out in your original post the USA is terribly homophobic, or more precisely parts of the states are homphobic and the country is still working through that. Right now the US is really trying to sort a lot of things out and it is a very polarizing time and it seems to cover the full spectrum of issues: gay rights, energy use, global warming, global role of the country, race, economic policy. It is very tense here right now.
yeah, sounds like it is tense. Our dollar’s worth more than yours now- never thought that would happen. Might come over on exchange and sink some of my big aussie bucks into the economy 😛 Ya the next few years are really going to be crazy- for us as well
Horray! finally a smiley face and a resolution. good job you two!
lol well i couldn’t leave your post on a sour note could i!
LOL looks like I’m a little late posting, but to answer an earlier question, 11B is Infantryman. It is an extremely demanding MOS both physically and mentally. The Infantry is the heart of the fight, wherever, whenever. Follow me!