“TL is a pretty fucking lame reason to not read something.”
Not really. You have a limited amount of time, how long it will take to read something will be a part of your decision whether to read it or not.
In other words: life is too short to read good books, only great ones.
I’ve read this, and I regret it. Part of the reason I’m an atheist now. I doubt very many people who’ve actually read this would believe it.
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Deuteronomy is a good example of this
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InB4 blah blah blah, only some parts of the Bible are ABSOLUTE FACT and other are metaphor bullshit of retarded “I choose and pick my Universal theory based on what other people tell me to believe (and) basically what I make up in my mind” religious adherents.
@AlecDalek
Honestly, I don’t know. If it is a quote, then it was pulled out of the depths of my subconscious.
A quick Google search doesn’t turn up anything. So I’ll take full credit for it 🙂
i pick and choose my universal theory based on what science and philosophy tell me what to think. not some crazy book written by crazy people who lived in mud huts and talked to angels. just scientist who crash things i can not see or touch into other things i can not see or touch or tell me what space is like or the nature of black holes and the nature of time.
I don’t buy the whole organized religion thing, but it’s always good to read the bible: That’s at least three thousand years of tradition right there. Read that and you walk away with a lot of knowledge about Abrahamic religion. Even if you’re not a religious person, you’ll walk away with a lot more than if you read a Tom Clancy novel or something.
I don’t take the Carolingian polyptyques as some amazing philosophy of life, I strongly disagree with the philosophy behind them, and I suspect many parts of them are historically suspicious. And yet, they are still worth reading for what they tell me about history and the human experience.
In fact, what’s this bullshit lately about having to agree with everything you’re exposed to, and rejecting everything you disagree with. I thought covering your ears and screaming ‘LAHALLALALALAL I”M NOT LISTENING’ was the close-minded fundie way of doing things?
“In fact, what’s this bullshit lately about having to agree with everything you’re exposed to, and rejecting everything you disagree with.”
It’s a matter of priorities. Should I read and study every religious text and mythology ever written? What percentage of my time should I spend reading religious texts vs other books?
And as far as understanding Abrahamic religion: I do not think that if someone read the New Testament without any context that they would have any understanding of organized Christianity as it’s practiced today.
Another example: I’ve read the Tao Ti Ching twice, in two different translations. Yet a few weeks ago you completely schooled me and showed that I don’t know much about how Taoism is actually practiced.
As far as understanding anything about the human experience, the Bible or any religious text is no better than any other nice book of poetry.
That is a good point about context reboot, especially because certain sects tend to overweigh certain books – I had a Catholic education and I never even heard of most of books in the hagiographa and prophets till uni, but man did I know Romans and Corinthians and St. Augustine and St. Thomas. Whereas, Quakers tend to be Gospel-centric, Jews Pentateuch and Prophets and Talmud-centric and so on.
Daoism in an exception though, because it tends to be the dumping house for all the odds and sods in traditional Chinese religion. As in, if it doesn’t fit in Buddhism and Confucianism, they just throw it on top of Mt. Daoist, even if it predates or postdates the sacred texts.
Still, Mythology is how people understand themselves, save a small handfull of atheists in the modern world (who still have their own stories). While I suppose you could never get around to every sacred text, and even the Bible is pretty long, but I still think its worth it for a lot of the insights you can learn about what it is to be human, how humans think and so on. I realize you’re more of a scientist and I’m more of a historian, but I couldn’t imagine trying to approach society and culture without religion working in as a consideration. Especially for whitey, with the importance of the Papacy historically, the turbulent rise of Protestantism, and so on. Or the First Nations, where mythology was often more closely tied into the day-to-day exigencies of survival.
Life is, indeed, short, and my comment was not intended to refer exclusively to the bible. Truth be known, I am skeptical of any organized religion; most encourage people to let others do their thinking for them, and that’s a damn shame. Similarly, I think it’s a damn shame when people avoid something just because it’s too long or boring or difficult, or requires too much intellectual work.
“I couldn’t imagine trying to approach society and culture without religion working in as a consideration.”
I go out of my way not to approach society or culture at all.
But really, you have some good points. I’ll keep them in mind before abandoning all study of religion.
Sufism ftw. KhwÄÂja Ã…Â ams ud-DÄ«n Muhammad HÄÂfez-e Å Ä«rÄÂzÄ«, and MawlÄÂnÄ JalÄÂl-ad-DÄ«n Muhammad RÅ«mÄ« or Hafiz and Rumi.
Yeh me neither
More like too dumb could not read.
More like Pointless Bullshit : Didn’t See The Point
More like hardest metal known to man.
Too Long; Didn’t Read , It’s forum speak and very apt for the bible comic.
Thanks tips.
TL is a pretty fucking lame reason to not read something.
“TL is a pretty fucking lame reason to not read something.”
Not really. You have a limited amount of time, how long it will take to read something will be a part of your decision whether to read it or not.
In other words: life is too short to read good books, only great ones.
nr
yeah reboot meant to say in the spirit of things “not really” he meant “nr”
@reboot:”life is too short to read good books, only great ones.”
Is that a quote or original reboot? That says it all.
I’ve read this, and I regret it. Part of the reason I’m an atheist now. I doubt very many people who’ve actually read this would believe it.
~
Deuteronomy is a good example of this
~
InB4 blah blah blah, only some parts of the Bible are ABSOLUTE FACT and other are metaphor bullshit of retarded “I choose and pick my Universal theory based on what other people tell me to believe (and) basically what I make up in my mind” religious adherents.
@AlecDalek
Honestly, I don’t know. If it is a quote, then it was pulled out of the depths of my subconscious.
A quick Google search doesn’t turn up anything. So I’ll take full credit for it 🙂
i pick and choose my universal theory based on what science and philosophy tell me what to think. not some crazy book written by crazy people who lived in mud huts and talked to angels. just scientist who crash things i can not see or touch into other things i can not see or touch or tell me what space is like or the nature of black holes and the nature of time.
I’ll keep picking science over religion until Resident Evil happens.
I don’t buy the whole organized religion thing, but it’s always good to read the bible: That’s at least three thousand years of tradition right there. Read that and you walk away with a lot of knowledge about Abrahamic religion. Even if you’re not a religious person, you’ll walk away with a lot more than if you read a Tom Clancy novel or something.
I don’t take the Carolingian polyptyques as some amazing philosophy of life, I strongly disagree with the philosophy behind them, and I suspect many parts of them are historically suspicious. And yet, they are still worth reading for what they tell me about history and the human experience.
In fact, what’s this bullshit lately about having to agree with everything you’re exposed to, and rejecting everything you disagree with. I thought covering your ears and screaming ‘LAHALLALALALAL I”M NOT LISTENING’ was the close-minded fundie way of doing things?
“In fact, what’s this bullshit lately about having to agree with everything you’re exposed to, and rejecting everything you disagree with.”
It’s a matter of priorities. Should I read and study every religious text and mythology ever written? What percentage of my time should I spend reading religious texts vs other books?
And as far as understanding Abrahamic religion: I do not think that if someone read the New Testament without any context that they would have any understanding of organized Christianity as it’s practiced today.
Another example: I’ve read the Tao Ti Ching twice, in two different translations. Yet a few weeks ago you completely schooled me and showed that I don’t know much about how Taoism is actually practiced.
As far as understanding anything about the human experience, the Bible or any religious text is no better than any other nice book of poetry.
There is no God.
HA. Damn christians. Stupid people.
That is a good point about context reboot, especially because certain sects tend to overweigh certain books – I had a Catholic education and I never even heard of most of books in the hagiographa and prophets till uni, but man did I know Romans and Corinthians and St. Augustine and St. Thomas. Whereas, Quakers tend to be Gospel-centric, Jews Pentateuch and Prophets and Talmud-centric and so on.
Daoism in an exception though, because it tends to be the dumping house for all the odds and sods in traditional Chinese religion. As in, if it doesn’t fit in Buddhism and Confucianism, they just throw it on top of Mt. Daoist, even if it predates or postdates the sacred texts.
Still, Mythology is how people understand themselves, save a small handfull of atheists in the modern world (who still have their own stories). While I suppose you could never get around to every sacred text, and even the Bible is pretty long, but I still think its worth it for a lot of the insights you can learn about what it is to be human, how humans think and so on. I realize you’re more of a scientist and I’m more of a historian, but I couldn’t imagine trying to approach society and culture without religion working in as a consideration. Especially for whitey, with the importance of the Papacy historically, the turbulent rise of Protestantism, and so on. Or the First Nations, where mythology was often more closely tied into the day-to-day exigencies of survival.
Life is, indeed, short, and my comment was not intended to refer exclusively to the bible. Truth be known, I am skeptical of any organized religion; most encourage people to let others do their thinking for them, and that’s a damn shame. Similarly, I think it’s a damn shame when people avoid something just because it’s too long or boring or difficult, or requires too much intellectual work.
“I couldn’t imagine trying to approach society and culture without religion working in as a consideration.”
I go out of my way not to approach society or culture at all.
But really, you have some good points. I’ll keep them in mind before abandoning all study of religion.
Sufism ftw. KhwÄÂja Ã…Â ams ud-DÄ«n Muhammad HÄÂfez-e Å Ä«rÄÂzÄ«, and MawlÄÂnÄ JalÄÂl-ad-DÄ«n Muhammad RÅ«mÄ« or Hafiz and Rumi.
It sits on the bookshelf with all the other books of myths I have.