And how exactly does he plan to do all these things? With the power of Carebear stare?

I don’t get it? Doesn’t this just prove my point?

I didn’t say give up our freedoms jackass. I said that we can’t prevent horrible things in our free society, so to achieve total safety, we have to give up our freedom. I say it’s not worth it, but you asked how we could be safe, or at least implied we weren’t, so I gave a solution. If you’ve ever read any of my other posts, you’d find out I own one, and plan to own LOTS more, guns. I love guns. I would NEVER give up ANY of them. And, I’ll use one of my favorite quotes from “Sum of All Fears”: It’s not the guy with 1,000 nukes I’m worried about. It’s the guy with one.

Paul:
1) If it has, that just means we have more terrorists to kill
2) Pearl Harbor wasn’t a terrorist attack, it was a kamikaze attack by a foreign military. Also, how cheap/easy was powerful/small explosives for radical Islamists to strap to themselves prior to then, and how much of a Great Satan were we.

reboot:
good analogy. I can’t wait to see how you are when there ARE tigers around.
I wish we could go back to the days when the world was a nice(r) place too.
I don’t plan on voting.
I’m not here reading about politics. I’m here arguing about candidates, and how everything they say is meant only to get voters, because you can’t win by being the best candidate, but by being the one with the most money, or the best speeches, or charisma, etc.

Because he wasn’t broke? Or, he got more money? I’m a PI in my spare time.
No, I mean the days when there was no internet, and stupidity was limited to a far smaller circle. Also, the days when we didn’t need to worry about being slaughtered in the streets, or where THE WORLD WAS A NICER PLACE. I’d say the 50s, like you see in sitcoms, where everyone was happy. I guess the fact you cited all those times was because you were there, and it was nicer? Or were you making a point that the world has never been nicer? Then what does the war on terror have to do with anything? If the world has always been this way, then why bitch about it being this way NOW?

Yeah, troops. Not innocent civilians. Troops risk (and give up) their lives so that innocent people don’t have to worry about being blown up while they are going about their day. You’re welcome.

I worried about getting blown up while I go about my day the 6 months I spent in Iraq. I had two close calls (while I was on base, a mortar went off less than a football field away, or went overhead and we never heard it detonate) that made me quite fearful, but I wanted nothing more than to spend more time there, doing something good. Yes, troops have families. But those families don’t go to war.

I agree my logic isn’t always consistent. Oh well, I live with it. I’m sorry that criminals are always active. But at least here you can have a gun to defend yourself, or some other means against someone who wants to directly confront you. A bomb is an indirect weapon, something you can’t really fight, like ghosts, or phantoms, they aren’t really physical. If someone comes up to you and sticks a knife/gun in your face, and demands your wallet, you can give it to them, shoot them, or whatever. If someone runs up to you and detonates a bomb, there is pretty much nothing you can do. I prefer keeping those kinds of people out of this country (America) and killing them whenever possible.
reboot:
Fine, citizens of any country get rights. What about people who are members of a terrorist organization? They abuse the rights we give to everyone inherently, and laugh at our laws that treat everyone as equals. So fuck them if they can’t take the joke. I’m the furthest thing from anti-American there is. I am anti-criminal. I want people to be able to live without fear (the possibility) of being victimized. That means that innocent people are protected, because certain people are out there hunting criminals, people who commit crimes, or are about to commit a crime, based on deductive reasoning from past actions.
natedog:
I can’t argue with you any more, because you seem to think that the fact we have a constitution protecting everyone means that everyone should be afforded those rights. I say no, that people should be treated the way they treat others. Same thing goes:
What about people who are members of a terrorist organization? They abuse the rights we give to everyone inherently, and laugh at our laws that treat everyone as equals. So fuck them if they can’t take the joke.

How’s this for an example for why we went to war with Iraq. Next time you play “Command & Conquer” tell me how you win. Do you parachute all of your troops directly into the enemies base (tell me how many casualties you have in order to successfully destroy the base), or do you build a strong base nearby, fortify an army, and then go in in force. We will do the same thing there (Iraq/Middle East), I expect. Strong forces in Iraq, and then branch out to neighboring countries. If you are ever declared an enemy combatant without cause, get a lawyer, prove your case, and then sue, because you seem to think that the president will randomly declare YOU an enemy combatant for some reason. I maintain that I have nothing to hide, so I have no fear of the government. Also, I think your capslock button is broken.

Hrmm, I have 3000 people in New York who argue that someone was/is a threat.

Yeah, again, I wish we could go back to simpler times (the early colonial days, the 50s, whatever) when we didn’t have to worry about being blown up by psychos, and, yes, we have huge problems in this country, but unfortunately, there are bad people in the world who want to do bad things to good people, so we need to stay on top of that while at the same time trying to do better here. To quote one of my favorite films “Troy” (damn, I can’t find it on IMDB, gonna have to paraphrase and hope I’m close) “I promise you, there will always be another war” so, good luck on there BEING an end to this war shit, but, hopefully we can get enough help from other nations who want to exist peacefully to take a portion of the burden off of our backs so we can concentrate on homegrown issues.